Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[Figaroo2]

Welcome to 25nl Zoom

Bloody minefield
poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players ZOOM

SB: $45.64 (182.6 bb)
BB: $25.19 (100.8 bb)VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 5
UTG: $38.84 (155.4 bb)
MP: $38.96 (155.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $28.11 (112.4 bb)
BTN: $35.28 (141.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

5

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN calls $0.62, SB folds, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.96) 4

3

7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, BB raises to $4.82, Hero calls $3.57, BTN folds

Turn: ($12.85) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $5.82, Hero raises to $22.67, BB calls $13.93 and is all-in

River: ($52.35) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $52.35 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 4

3

7

6

6

BB showed 9

5

and won $25.18 (-$0.01 net)
Hero showed A

5

and won $25.17 (-$0.02 net)

 

[GRANDPAPA929]

All right.
Two street, Bank in half.
What's the catch?

 

[Figaroo2]

All right.
Two street, Bank in half.
What's the catch?

Well you don't expect players at this buy in to play 95 in the BB and you don't expect a raise into two players from a hand with a gutshot and a backdoor flush draw.

 

[John A]

I'm finding this situation on the river quite profitable. When a reg fires out 1/3 pot on the river on a scary board it is often a sign of bet fold spot for them, so a raise takes them off the hand. Our raise doesn't have to be too big 3/4 to pot seems to be working well.
Any thoughts?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $26.58 (106.3 bb)
BB: $37.69 (150.8 bb) VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 1.5, Hands: 2459
MP1: $63.51 (254 bb)
MP2: $24.25 (97 bb)
MP3: $21.03 (84.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.35 (101.4 bb)
BTN: $31.70 (126.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5

A

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 7

A

Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.02, BB calls $1.02

Turn: ($3.64) K

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.64) J

(2 players)
BB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $4.89, BB folds
Can't see him having many tens here in anycase

Results: $5.84 pot ($0.26 rake)
Final Board: 7

A

Q

K

J

BB mucked and lost (-$2.87 net)
Hero mucked 5

A

and won $5.58 ($2.71 net)

Yeah, I guess at these stakes it's ok. Obviously this is a pretty good bluff spot, and he should have a decent amount of two pair, but since he's passive you'll likely get more folds. At higher stakes this isn't going to work quite as well, but your general read about 1/3rd pot and fold is typically correct unless they are a thinking player that is baiting you.

 

[John A]

Bloody minefield
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players ZOOM

SB: $45.64 (182.6 bb)
BB: $25.19 (100.8 bb)VPIP: 20, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 5
UTG: $38.84 (155.4 bb)
MP: $38.96 (155.8 bb)
Hero (CO): $28.11 (112.4 bb)
BTN: $35.28 (141.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

5

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, BTN calls $0.62, SB folds, BB calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.96) 4

3

7

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, BB raises to $4.82, Hero calls $3.57, BTN folds

Turn: ($12.85) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $5.82, Hero raises to $22.67, BB calls $13.93 and is all-in

River: ($52.35) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $52.35 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 4

3

7

6

6

BB showed 9

5

and won $25.18 (-$0.01 net)
Hero showed A

5

and won $25.17 (-$0.02 net)

Fold the flop. The main problem here is your double gutter leaves 4 to a straight on board, with one of those not carrying good implied odds and the one one not much at all. If you were going to play these, you'd need to 3-bet the flop imho.

 

[Figaroo2]

Here is the min raise the turn to try and get a cheap showdown . Any comments?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $32.87 (131.5 bb)
BB: $49.21 (196.8 bb)
UTG: $36.61 (146.4 bb)VPIP: 44, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 9
Hero (MP): $26.53 (106.1 bb)
CO: $43.01 (172 bb)
BTN: $23.67 (94.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9

9

UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, CO folds, BTN calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.10) J

5

2

(4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, 2 folds

Turn: ($8.10) 5

(2 players)
UTG bets $4.75, Hero raises to $9.50, UTG folds

Results: $17.60 pot ($0.79 rake)
Final Board: J

5

2

5

UTG mucked and lost (-$8 net)
Hero mucked 9

9

and won $16.81 ($8.81 net)

 

[John A]

Without info on your opponent, it's ok at these stakes. I'd prefer we call and then make a river decision. He shouldn't be tripling w/o a real hand, but it could be a random. He should be c/cing a lot of rivers except with a few over pairs.

 

[Figaroo2]

Without info on your opponent, it's ok at these stakes. I'd prefer we call and then make a river decision. He shouldn't be tripling w/o a real hand, but it could be a random. He should be c/cing a lot of rivers except with a few over pairs.

Thanks John

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players Zoom

SB: $42.55 (170.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $68.99 (276 bb)
MP: $44.44 (177.8 bb)
CO: $2.22 (8.9 bb)
BTN: $39.61 (158.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7

A

4 folds, SB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) A

K

5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

Turn: ($2.26) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43

River: ($5.12) 3

(2 players)
SB bets $7.34, Hero calls $7.34

Results: $19.80 pot ($0.89 rake)
Final Board: A

K

5

6

3

SB showed K

9

and lost (-$9.90 net)
Hero showed 7

A

and won $18.91 ($9.01 net)

I just decided my hand is too strong to fold here but not good enough to raise and wanted to see what he did on the river, although I'm mosly calling. I snapped off this river sizing, If he was going for value here its 3/4 pot or a shove not this weird overbet.
Comments?

 

[John A]

Thanks John

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players Zoom

SB: $42.55 (170.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $68.99 (276 bb)
MP: $44.44 (177.8 bb)
CO: $2.22 (8.9 bb)
BTN: $39.61 (158.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7

A

4 folds, SB raises to $0.50, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1) A

K

5

(2 players)
SB bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

Turn: ($2.26) 6

(2 players)
SB bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43

River: ($5.12) 3

(2 players)
SB bets $7.34, Hero calls $7.34

Results: $19.80 pot ($0.89 rake)
Final Board: A

K

5

6

3

SB showed K

9

and lost (-$9.90 net)
Hero showed 7

A

and won $18.91 ($9.01 net)

I just decided my hand is too strong to fold here but not good enough to raise and wanted to see what he did on the river, although I'm mosly calling. I snapped off this river sizing, If he was going for value here its 3/4 pot or a shove not this weird overbet.
Comments?

I guess no stats. Ya, this goes to my old theory of, if they are going to bluff, they can bluff for less and get the same result. So if you went with your read, that's fine because he's really narrowed himself to AQc/KQc/QcTc. In a BvB spot at these stakes, you're probably good here often enough in a spot like this to call here. If we had more info that could sway our decision of course.

 

[rhombus]

I just decided my hand is too strong to fold here but not good enough to raise and wanted to see what he did on the river, although I'm mosly calling. I snapped off this river sizing, If he was going for value here its 3/4 pot or a shove not this weird overbet.
Comments?

Did we go over Bet sizing tells??

 

[John A]

Did we go over Bet sizing tells??

No, I've stalled on that. Between managing my sons baseball team, coaching my daughters soccer team, running a business w/ 18 employees and starting a new startup w/ a friend of mine, I've been slim on time.

But what's really putting me out is I do all the cooking at my house. That's putting me over the top.

 

[rhombus]

No, I've stalled on that. Between managing my sons baseball team, coaching my daughters soccer team, running a business w/ 18 employees and starting a new startup w/ a friend of mine, I've been slim on time.

But what's really putting me out is I do all the cooking at my house. That's putting me over the top.

man of many talents.
PS get a microwave and a toaster

 

[EGOR77]

Hello! After reading your post, I was very interested in the book. How do you feel if I do not play poker for a very long time, does it make sense for me to start this book?

 

[John A]

man of many talents.
PS get a microwave and a toaster

All we do is try right?

On a side note, I will have a lot of new free content here soon. I have been slowly banging away at putting together a completely free course utilizing some existing content and some new content. My goal is to get it all done by the end of next month, so we'll see how it goes.

 

[John A]

Hello! After reading your post, I was very interested in the book. How do you feel if I do not play poker for a very long time, does it make sense for me to start this book?

Yes, you can jump in, read the book and ask questions. You can also post hands you've played in here and everyone in here is great about feedback. You'll get consistently good advice.

 

[John A]

If anyone was having difficulty downloading polished poker this weekend, the download link was changed and updated when we moved servers, so it should be working again now.

I will be on skype and available tmw (Tuesday).

 

[Nomimouse]

Download link is not working for me, just tried it.

 

[John A]

Download link is not working for me, just tried it.

Ok, I'll double check this. I was told this was moved and updated.

 

[John A]

Ok, I'll double check this. I was told this was moved and updated.

I just checked it myself and it works fine. Got the email and downloaded. Did you signup from the website?


http://www.acepokersolutions.com/free-poker-books/

 

[John A]

Here's a hand I butchered from the other night. I meant to bet less and then jam river. What would be the best sizing here?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $2(BB)
BB ($205.2)
UTG ($244.5)
HJ ($304)
CO ($240.2)
BTN ($200)
HERO ($233.5)

Dealt to Hero Q:heart: K:heart:

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $6 (Rem. Stack: 234.2), BTN Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: 194), HERO Raises To $25 (Rem. Stack: 207.5), BB Folds, CO Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 214.2), BTN Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 174)

Flop ($80) Q:spade: 2:club: 3:heart:
HERO Bets $26 (Rem. Stack: 181.5), CO Calls $26 (Rem. Stack: 188.2), BTN Folds

Turn ($132) Q:spade: 2:club: 3:heart: K:club:
HERO Bets $66 (Rem. Stack: 115.5), CO Folds

HERO wins $194

 

[John A]

Fyi, I'm putting this in my course so far and I'm looking for a couple of people to provide some feedback about content and how it fits overall in what I'm doing. So please let me know if you're interested.

Here are some of the video titles...

Creative Lines -
Abusing Regs -
Over Betting & Under betting -
Advanced Blind Play -
Learning how to Learn -
Advanced 3 & 4-Betting -
Bluff Raising & Floating -
Conditional Probability -
Small Stakes Hand Ranges -
How to Think Like a Pro (2 part series) -
The Nuts and Bolts of Poker -
Playing the Turn (2 part series) -
Playing out of position -
Proper Value Betting -
Basics of EV -
Tilt Control -
The Approach to Poker -
Common Potential Mistakes -
Pinning -
Profiling Players -
Live Play Adjustments -
Stepping Outside of your Box -

 

[Figaroo2]

Here's a hand I butchered from the other night. I meant to bet less and then jam river. What would be the best sizing here?

NL Holdem $2(BB)
BB ($205.2)
UTG ($244.5)
HJ ($304)
CO ($240.2)
BTN ($200)
HERO ($233.5)

Dealt to Hero Q♥ K♥
UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $6 (Rem. Stack: 234.2), BTN Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: 194), HERO Raises To $25 (Rem. Stack: 207.5), BB Folds, CO Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 214.2), BTN Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 174)
Flop ($80) Q♠ 2♣ 3♥
HERO Bets $26 (Rem. Stack: 181.5), CO Calls $26 (Rem. Stack: 188.2), BTN Folds
Turn ($132) Q♠ 2♣ 3♥ K♣
HERO Bets $66 (Rem. Stack: 115.5), CO Folds
HERO wins $194

Well I'd hardly consider it butchered.
There just wasn't a hand good enough to continue against you.
Assuming the river bricks the only hand I can only see stacking off to a shove that we are beating is AK and maybe AcQc QcJc, but those hands probably call the $66 on the turn anyway.
I can't see any realistic 2 pair combo's other than the chop.
AA seems unlikely.

So he calls flop with 22 33 77-JJ QJs KQ AQ AK and slow played KK AA QQ but I'd expect those latter big starting hands to 4bet pre most of the time, especially at 6 max and against someone like you.

Lets say you made it $30-40 on the turn, firstly what's calling $30-40 that isn't calling $66? Qx, but Qx doesn't usually call a shove?
I think all his single underpairs fold when the K brings two overcards.
Yeah 66 does look a bit big and we miss out on the odd $40 maybe
66 its going to make the pot around 250 with 115 behind but all the more reason to call it off with AK. Even if you made it 40 the pot is still 200ish with 140 behind.


I've still got plenty of free time so I'd like to help review the course material. It would probably do me good anyway.

 

[Figaroo2]

call or fold on the end v aggro fish.

Pacific, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $11.93 (59.7 bb)
BB: $7.86 (39.3 bb)
UTG+1: $10.18 (50.9 bb)
UTG+2: $21.55 (107.8 bb)
MP1: $36.51 (182.6 bb)VPIP: 42, PFR: 14, 3B: 19, AF: 3.6, Hands: 161
Hero (MP2): $22.47 (112.4 bb)
MP3: $22.60 (113 bb)
CO: $20.13 (100.7 bb)
BTN: $23.01 (115.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q

Q

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.72, 3 folds, SB calls $0.62, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.52

Flop: ($2.36) 8

9

7

(3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $1.12, Hero calls $1.12, SB folds

Turn: ($4.60) 2

(2 players)
MP1 bets $2.18, Hero calls $2.18

River: ($8.96) A

(2 players)
MP1 bets $8.52
Hero?

There are definitely some sets/straights possible and maybe Axs, but i'd also expect a large amount of whiffed draws here.

Looking at this hand maybe a raise on the turn might have been OK

 

[Nomimouse]

I just checked it myself and it works fine. Got the email and downloaded. Did you signup from the website?


http://www.acepokersolutions.com/free-poker-books/

Ah, no, I was trying the website address given in the first post of the thread. I managed to get it just fine with this new link. Thanks so much!!

 

[Aces2w1n]

Here's a hand I butchered from the other night. I meant to bet less and then jam river. What would be the best sizing here?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker HUD & Database

NL Holdem $2(BB)
BB ($205.2)
UTG ($244.5)
HJ ($304)
CO ($240.2)
BTN ($200)
HERO ($233.5)

Dealt to Hero Q<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='red'>♥</font>

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $6 (Rem. Stack: 234.2), BTN Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: 194), HERO Raises To $25 (Rem. Stack: 207.5), BB Folds, CO Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 214.2), BTN Calls $20 (Rem. Stack: 174)

Flop ($80) Q<font color='black'>♠</font> 2<font color='black'>♣</font> 3<font color='red'>♥</font>
HERO Bets $26 (Rem. Stack: 181.5), CO Calls $26 (Rem. Stack: 188.2), BTN Folds

Turn ($132) Q<font color='black'>♠</font> 2<font color='black'>♣</font> 3<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font>
HERO Bets $66 (Rem. Stack: 115.5), CO Folds

HERO wins $194

Check raise perhaps... if hes on a draw we may induce a shove