Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[rhombus]

Yes I'd call, You are getting 3.35 to 1 so you don't have to be right very often here to show a profit.
I think check call is correct, if you bet it appears unlikely that anything worse will call and you just fold out his air that he might bluff with.
If button had a king he should be betting it for value on the turn.
His sizing is small enough to be either as cheap a bluff as he thinks he can get away with, with something like AQ, AJs. Or small thin value from QQ JJ.
I don't think he will fold QQ or JJ to a river raise though as you don't rep anything after checking flop and turn.

Ended up calling and wasn't surprised to see AK

 

[rohankamble9]

is there any free coaching for MTT's... i just want to learn more about them

 

[Figaroo2]

Aggro enough to call down?

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $10.70 (107 bb)
BB: $10.41 (104.1 bb)
UTG+1: $10.56 (105.6 bb) VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 100, AF: 3.0, Hands: 6
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (MP1): $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10.93 (109.3 bb)
MP3: $13.98 (139.8 bb)
CO: $6.27 (62.7 bb)
BTN: $3.70 (37 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

J

UTG+1 raises to $0.28, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.28, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.71) J

4

8

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.53, UTG+1 calls $0.53

Turn: ($1.77) 4

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.98, UTG+1 raises to $3.77, Hero calls $2.79 There isn't a lot to rep here, it smells.

River: ($9.31) 9

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $5.98 and is all-in,
Hero?

Spoiler

calls $5.42 and is all-in
Results: $20.15 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: J

4

8

4

9

UTG+1 showed J

Q

and lost (-$10 net)
Hero showed A

J

and won $19.15 ($9.15 net)

 

[rhombus]

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $10.70 (107 bb)
BB: $10.41 (104.1 bb)
UTG+1: $10.56 (105.6 bb) VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 100, AF: 3.0, Hands: 6
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (MP1): $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10.93 (109.3 bb)
MP3: $13.98 (139.8 bb)
CO: $6.27 (62.7 bb)
BTN: $3.70 (37 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

J

UTG+1 raises to $0.28, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.28, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.71) J

4

8

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.53, UTG+1 calls $0.53

Turn: ($1.77) 4

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.98, UTG+1 raises to $3.77, Hero calls $2.79 There isn't a lot to rep here, it smells.

River: ($9.31) 9

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $5.98 and is all-in,
Hero?

Spoiler

calls $5.42 and is all-in
Results: $20.15 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: J

4

8

4

9

UTG+1 showed J

Q

and lost (-$10 net)
Hero showed A

J

and won $19.15 ($9.15 net)

Maybe find fold againt NIT otherwise Id call against aggressive villain.

Hes repping A4s J8s maybe 88 but lots more other hands you beat JT, JQ, JK 89 TT etc

 

[John A]

Thought this was an interesting hand that everyone on 2+2 thinks I'm nuts for folding. Thankfully I made the correct read here, and wouldn't typically fold in this spot.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/100-nlhe-full-ring-i-snap-322817/

 

[John A]

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $10.70 (107 bb)
BB: $10.41 (104.1 bb)
UTG+1: $10.56 (105.6 bb) VPIP: 67, PFR: 67, 3B: 100, AF: 3.0, Hands: 6
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (MP1): $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10.93 (109.3 bb)
MP3: $13.98 (139.8 bb)
CO: $6.27 (62.7 bb)
BTN: $3.70 (37 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A

J

UTG+1 raises to $0.28, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.28, 6 folds

Flop: ($0.71) J

4

8

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.53, UTG+1 calls $0.53

Turn: ($1.77) 4

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $0.98, UTG+1 raises to $3.77, Hero calls $2.79 There isn't a lot to rep here, it smells.

River: ($9.31) 9

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $5.98 and is all-in,
Hero?

Spoiler

calls $5.42 and is all-in
Results: $20.15 pot ($1 rake)
Final Board: J

4

8

4

9

UTG+1 showed J

Q

and lost (-$10 net)
Hero showed A

J

and won $19.15 ($9.15 net)

If you're only calling that turn, then you're calling the river. Really dry, but there's the straight draw, you might as well get it in. He's committed.

 

[Figaroo2]

not sure about this villain.

Happy to fold here?
This villain is sticky appears to be aggro on the turn but not on the river.

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $12.36 (123.6 bb)VPIP: 23, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 119
UTG+2: $5.27 (52.7 bb)
MP1: $14.46 (144.6 bb)
MP2: $11.54 (115.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $13.09 (130.9 bb)
CO: $7.64 (76.4 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q

A

2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30, MP2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 6

9

4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.61, BB calls $0.61

Turn: ($2.17) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.38, BB raises to $3.94,
Hero?

 

[Figaroo2]

Best way to play dynamic boards

I got a bit timid on the turn here in the face of a wet dynamic board and a sticky fish villain. I should have bet the turn to charge the multitude of draws.
As played are you betting the river or checking again to pick off bluffs from whiffed draws and if betting how much?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.64 (256.4 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $14.21 (142.1 bb)VPIP: 47, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 55

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

K

3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.25, MP3 folds, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.85) 9

T

J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.81, BTN calls $1.81

Turn: ($6.47) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.80, Hero calls $3.80

River: ($14.07) 4

(2 players)
Hero?

 

[John A]

Happy to fold here?
This villain is sticky appears to be aggro on the turn but not on the river.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $12.36 (123.6 bb)VPIP: 23, PFR: 16, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 119
UTG+2: $5.27 (52.7 bb)
MP1: $14.46 (144.6 bb)
MP2: $11.54 (115.4 bb)
Hero (MP3): $13.09 (130.9 bb)
CO: $7.64 (76.4 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q

A

2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 3 folds, BB calls $0.30, MP2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 6

9

4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.61, BB calls $0.61

Turn: ($2.17) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.38, BB raises to $3.94,
Hero?

Strange place to turn CR, but I'd just use the 10nl rule and figure they aren't really thinking this through well and just fold. He doesn't have a worse Q, so you're either crushed, he's decided to randomly turn some small pairs into a bluff. It's unlikely he has 78 cold calling out of the BB.

 

[John A]

I got a bit timid on the turn here in the face of a wet dynamic board and a sticky fish villain. I should have bet the turn to charge the multitude of draws.
As played are you betting the river or checking again to pick off bluffs from whiffed draws and if betting how much?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $25.64 (256.4 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $14.21 (142.1 bb)VPIP: 47, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 55

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

K

3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $1.25, MP3 folds, BTN calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.85) 9

T

J

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.81, BTN calls $1.81

Turn: ($6.47) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.80, Hero calls $3.80

River: ($14.07) 4

(2 players)
Hero?

Why are you checking to a fish? I don't care about the coordinated board... don't ever ever ever check that turn to someone like this unless you're planning on check jamming. Bruce...

Now as played jam river.

 

[Figaroo2]

Why are you checking to a fish? I don't care about the coordinated board... don't ever ever ever check that turn to someone like this unless you're planning on check jamming. Bruce...
Now as played jam river.

Yeah well presumably I checked because he called a squeeze and then then called a big cbet so he has something and in my mind I might be beat so I retreat into pot control so I don't get stacked. (I suspect partly because I'm running so bad but also because I'm too cautious and can't seem to handle large variance without tilting). So I'm thinking of quitting and taking up something less competitive as I don't believe I have the right demeanour to progress much further in this game. I don't want to sound ungrateful you have been terrific in getting me this far.

 

[John A]

Yeah well presumably I checked because he called a squeeze and then then called a big cbet so he has something and in my mind I might be beat so I retreat into pot control so I don't get stacked. (I suspect partly because I'm running so bad but also because I'm too cautious and can't seem to handle large variance without tilting). So I'm thinking of quitting and taking up something less competitive as I don't believe I have the right demeanour to progress much further in this game. I don't want to sound ungrateful you have been terrific in getting me this far.

You're just going through a bad run. The key here is, when you start to notice that your results are changing your play, take a big break. This is one of those spots I've seen you play correctly and understand a ton. That's why I said what I did because I was super surprised.

I get it... we've all been there. Just take a break and stick to 888 and some other softer sites for now.

 

[Figaroo2]

You're just going through a bad run. The key here is, when you start to notice that your results are changing your play, take a big break. This is one of those spots I've seen you play correctly and understand a ton. That's why I said what I did because I was super surprised.

I get it... we've all been there. Just take a break and stick to 888 and some other softer sites for now.

Yeah I'm taking a break. I'm going on a UK driveabout next week and won't play at all next week.
I had already scaled my volume right back this month anyhow. Recently I've been getting in 40K of cash hands a month (as well as some 10K of MTT on top of that), This month so far, I've played 5K of hands and it was going ok until another couple of nasty suckouts that I haven't handled well. (see chart).
I even got told to fk off today because I dared to be critical about someone defending T6os in the big blind to a raise. (after they got felted...lol)

 

[Aces2w1n]

Fig: These are the times your cold tilting. You often check when you should bet or raise.

Your risk averse now. And avoid it and ofc u know its hurting your game.

What I typically do if my aggression drops i'll go watch nano's videos and it inspires me. but what sounds like for me is you've taken a few hits overtime and now they are turning into right hooks.

Rest up and we will still be here when you comeback

 

[John A]

Fig: These are the times your cold tilting. You often check when you should bet or raise.

Your risk averse now. And avoid it and ofc u know its hurting your game.

What I typically do if my aggression drops i'll go watch nano's videos and it inspires me. but what sounds like for me is you've taken a few hits overtime and now they are turning into right hooks.

Rest up and we will still be here when you comeback

Good advice maybe minus the nano videos. I haven't watched any of his, but isn't he a losing player since black friday?

The games have changed a lot. I remember pre-black friday playing 10/20nl online, and that played like 2/4nl does today.

 

[Aces2w1n]

Good advice maybe minus the nano videos. I haven't watched any of his, but isn't he a losing player since black friday?

The games have changed a lot. I remember pre-black friday playing 10/20nl online, and that played like 2/4nl does today.

Not sure exactly if he went broke but i liked it due to another perspective. Seeing an aggro player at work and explaining.

I like flixx videos as well well his earlier grinding it up videos his latest i cant stand and hes just taken things too far with his over acting quite sad really.


John have you made the polished videos?? I am keen on watching them. Sorry i dont take part here too much atm been hovering in and out but im never too far away.

 

[John A]

Not sure exactly if he went broke but i liked it due to another perspective. Seeing an aggro player at work and explaining.

I like flixx videos as well well his earlier grinding it up videos his latest i cant stand and hes just taken things too far with his over acting quite sad really.


John have you made the polished videos?? I am keen on watching them. Sorry i dont take part here too much atm been hovering in and out but im never too far away.

If you find something of value that's great. I know his game doesn't really work quite as well as it used to though... just fyi.

As far as polished poker videos, I'm still doing those, but I'm putting together a new free PZ course first. I have a new website done and putting together content that I hope is done by the end of this month.

I'm just here to try and mentor any players who want to push their games forward.

 

[Figaroo2]

Runbad update

Ok I'm feeling a bit less like quitting after pulling out of the nosedive and posting a few winning days and taking down TalonChick in her home game (8 game)
By the time we got HU we had about 50bb and 30bb so there was a little work to do. The prize for winning was equity in a $10 spin n go, there is the remote possibility of hitting the million jackpot in one of those at the moment. So she plays the game and gets TT all in v J3s and a J hits the river and she frowns, "sorry Figaroo" she says, "I never expected it to hold" said I and we had a chuckle.
Here is the bad running since the beginning of the year that has been getting me a bit down, there is no signs of the lines coming back togethor it widened by another $30 in the last 3 days. I am consoled by the fact I'm still well in the green.
I'm still going to have a break starting Tuesday for a week, I've hired a car and am going driveabout visiting old friends..

 

[Aces2w1n]

If you find something of value that's great. I know his game doesn't really work quite as well as it used to though... just fyi.

As far as polished poker videos, I'm still doing those, but I'm putting together a new free PZ course first. I have a new website done and putting together content that I hope is done by the end of this month.

I'm just here to try and mentor any players who want to push their games forward.

Well i only look at videos to see if theres something i havnt thought of oe a dift perspective these days. Lately been just focusing on building experience and practice what ive learnt ovet the last years.

I found i tried to shove too much knowledge in me over the time without totally mastering each concept. So now playing catchup and its starting to show dividends


Yeah i love what your doing and always respect you as a mentor as coach and everyones lucky to have you here. I cant wait for the vids

Ive heard you mentored fig and ive made sure ive listened to fig... too many voices and we become deaf

Anyways how is your personal game going these days

 

[John A]

Ok I'm feeling a bit less like quitting after pulling out of the nosedive and posting a few winning days and taking down TalonChick in her home game (8 game)
By the time we got HU we had about 50bb and 30bb so there was a little work to do. The prize for winning was equity in a $10 spin n go, there is the remote possibility of hitting the million jackpot in one of those at the moment. So she plays the game and gets TT all in v J3s and a J hits the river and she frowns, "sorry Figaroo" she says, "I never expected it to hold" said I and we had a chuckle.
Here is the bad running since the beginning of the year that has been getting me a bit down, there is no signs of the lines coming back togethor it widened by another $30 in the last 3 days. I am consoled by the fact I'm still well in the green.
I'm still going to have a break starting Tuesday for a week, I've hired a car and am going driveabout visiting old friends..

Good idea! But yeah, just take a break, get some good table selection going on, and monitor your game so when it drops below your A game, you stop. There's a huge evolution in your game, and you're on another cusp of breaking through to some new insights.

 

[John A]

Well i only look at videos to see if theres something i havnt thought of oe a dift perspective these days. Lately been just focusing on building experience and practice what ive learnt ovet the last years.

I found i tried to shove too much knowledge in me over the time without totally mastering each concept. So now playing catchup and its starting to show dividends


Yeah i love what your doing and always respect you as a mentor as coach and everyones lucky to have you here. I cant wait for the vids

Ive heard you mentored fig and ive made sure ive listened to fig... too many voices and we become deaf

Anyways how is your personal game going these days

Cool... keep it rolling.

I haven't put much volume in this year. The lowest I ever have in my poker career. It's going ok. Coming off a brutal session just now of about 1k hands -4.5 buy ins... but that happens sometimes. Just people hitting hands, and I wasn't hitting anything. Doesn't help that I only flopped one set (literally the entire session), and lost the hand to a draw.

I'm working on some new material though. Trying to finish up a new PZ video and hopefully can record it tomorrow.

 

[John A]

Of course ignition does a massive update last week, so got behind. Will have a new video up here soon that I think will be of interest to everyone.

 

[Vini_lepoker]

Hi guys, I've read Figaroo's post and I am interested on the study group on skype. I moved from NL2 to NL5 couple months ago having played over 60,000 hands on NL5 so far. Have been around for a while in the forum but it's just this year that I decided to take the game somewhat seriously (as far as work and life let me).

I feel like I removed some leaks in my game to this point, but I really need to push it forward. I don't consider myself to be good at poker, but I don't tilt hard and also have a good amount of patience.
These are the stats from March 23 until today, that's NL5 6max. Can you guys point out some leaks here?

 

[GuiWah]

Nice thread! I'm following.

 

[Figaroo2]

These are the stats from March 23 until today, that's NL5 6max. Can you guys point out some leaks here?

Welcome Vini
If you personal message me your skype name I'll add you to the group. Its normally on Tuesdays 8pm GMT (for me in the UK) which suits John (probably about 4pm in brazil) but myself and others can sweat at a wider variety of times.
Hopefully John will comment in detail on your stats, I could do but I don't want to steal his thunder and he is the expert.
It would help if we could see your positional stats as well. It is important to see what % of hands you are opening from each position and where you are 3betting from.
Basically overall what I see is solid TAG that isn't stealing/3betting/squeezing wide enough preflop at 6 max and only getting to showdown with your stronger hands.
It's not that your game has massive leaks it's more a case of it not letting you win as much as you could be winning. Thankfully this means it shouldn't take many tweaks to get you into the green.