OzExorcist
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I dunno: he's been tested three times so far this year, and 11 times last year, and USADA haven't popped him for anything. You can check for yourself here: http://www.usada.org/testing/results/athlete-test-history/
That combined with the massive decline in his performance makes me inclined to believe he really has given them up, at least for the time being.
That combined with the massive decline in his performance makes me inclined to believe he really has given them up, at least for the time being.
andyt5303
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I'm all for seeing TRT Vitor heading to rizin. Even though he's been facing legitimate guys the last 2 years have been pretty tragic for him since USADA came in - clear as day he was full of steroids if you ask me.
The idea of him facing CM Punk in brazil for his retirement fight makes me wanna vomit - embarrassing that he even made that request. Should have retired after the title fight with Weidman but I guess that's easier said in hindsight.
... Speaking of Weidman he's just started streaming on twitch! If you're into video games and ufc you can watch him at twitch.tv/chrisweidmanufc! Probably be streaming a little less building up to 210 but definitely worth checking out... he's done a couple streams with Demetrious Johnson too!
The idea of him facing CM Punk in brazil for his retirement fight makes me wanna vomit - embarrassing that he even made that request. Should have retired after the title fight with Weidman but I guess that's easier said in hindsight.
... Speaking of Weidman he's just started streaming on twitch! If you're into video games and ufc you can watch him at twitch.tv/chrisweidmanufc! Probably be streaming a little less building up to 210 but definitely worth checking out... he's done a couple streams with Demetrious Johnson too!
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He must defend his belt first
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cjrent0608
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he KO'd aldo in 13 secs, who was the P4P number 1. To be the best, you gotta beat the best and McGregor already did that.
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underdog140
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You don't get to be P4P #1 by completely depleting yourself to fight smaller guys. Conor isn't even ranked # 1 in overall status at FW let alone #1 P4P. Aldo is still the FW kingpin ... one quick loss doesn't erase a life-time of achievements. Ten years undefeated ... First ever champion ... most title defenses at FW. No-one has come close to doing what he has done at FW.
Conor can possibly make that claim in the future. He is headed in the right direction but as it stands he is not even within grasp of such a claim.
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cjrent0608
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Conor has wiped out the FW division, there's no one for him to fight that he hasn't already beat. Conor is the two time champ; Aldo won't ever have that on his resume
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No. To be the best you gotta defend your title multiple times, not leave the division the moment you win the belt.
So according to your logic, when Nate beat Conor, he was the p4p fighter.
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srqgrinder
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Demetrius Johnson is definitely p4p best. His athleticism, his technique, and will to win and continue be these best sets him apart. McGregor on other hand lost to nate diaz. Not knocking nate diaz, but the p4p king doesn't get outclassed standing than choked out in 2 rounds by the #5 ranked fighter in the division your now champion in. 3 fights ago correct? He has achieved a lot. But not p4p best.
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underdog140
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He never wiped anything out. You can't wipe out a division with 0 title defenses behind you. Edgar was deserving of a fight. Aldo was deserving of a rematch. Conor had no intentions of going back to FW and held onto that FW for as long as he could before getting stripped. The only way he makes that cut again is if he gets destroyed at 155lbs. He had a size advantage against everyone he has faced except Nate Diaz which he lost to and won a controversial decision against.
He beat Mendes in a short notice fight and beat Aldo in a 13 second fight. Allot was left to the imagination. How would a full Camp Mendes do ? How would a rematch with Aldo go ? We all seen fights that ended quickly and the rematch was something different. It was a great accomplishment dethroning Aldo but that isn't enough to be considered the goat of the FW division. Aldo 10 years undefeated and multiple title defenses >>>>> then Conors resume at FW. It is not even close.
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cjrent0608
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You all have respectable opinions. But if you don't think Conor is P4P number 1 or running the game right now, soon he'll officially be ranked 1 P4P. Especially if he gets past Khabib or Ferguson is spectacular fashion.
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cjrent0608
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That was Chad's fight the entire way, until they got to the stand up game once, and it was over lol
OzExorcist
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Yeah everyone is missing the point entirely. Where he ranks on the P4P list is largely irrelevant - in fact I've said before, and I still believe, the fact that he could lose any given fight is a massive part of his draw and appeal. I mean isn't that way more exciting than watching someone you know is gonna win every time?
What does matter with McGregor is where he ranks on the moneyweight list - on that he's #1, and nobody else is even close. Fact.
What does matter with McGregor is where he ranks on the moneyweight list - on that he's #1, and nobody else is even close. Fact.
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"Moneyweight list"? Pffffffff. This is way more ridiculous than the whole p4p discussion. we are debating about - hmmmm, idk, maybe - fighting. Good for him that he gets his "superheavy checks", but I don't think MMA fans should care that much about who is the richest fighter.
OzExorcist
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What I do care about is how entertaining the fights I'm watching are. And you've got to admit that a McGregor fight is an entertainment event like few others.
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You seem to care not about how entertaining the fights are, but the whole spectacle pre and post fight.
andyt5303
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Are you seriously suggesting that McGregor's fights are boring to watch??