thwenth1983
Visionary
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Difficult.
Today, 08/07/2019, I played at pokerstars, the site that I like to play, one more thing I can not fail to comment on is the fact that the hands preminus, lose to much weaker hands on a large frequency, fact that does not happen so often other sites.
With AA I lost to 88, I also saw an AA lose to K9o who made a Sequence, in posts I did before that I said that it is a default site, AA losing to much weaker hands that do sequence or flush.
I also saw another AA losing to KTs, which flush.
The bet365, is the site that the results are very similar to the live, hardly AA, loses.
Today, 08/07/2019, I played at pokerstars, the site that I like to play, one more thing I can not fail to comment on is the fact that the hands preminus, lose to much weaker hands on a large frequency, fact that does not happen so often other sites.
With AA I lost to 88, I also saw an AA lose to K9o who made a Sequence, in posts I did before that I said that it is a default site, AA losing to much weaker hands that do sequence or flush.
I also saw another AA losing to KTs, which flush.
The bet365, is the site that the results are very similar to the live, hardly AA, loses.
AttitudeXL
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I have been playing at Pokerstars for quite some time, but last 6 months at least weekly. I have noticed examples like previously posted, but i also have noted that unusual amount of hand cards are the same. I mean that i get same number but different lands in hand two times in a row or at worst same number multiple times in same tournament. I have been wondering could this be result of so many games and tables running at the same time or what could be reason for this.
thwenth1983
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Good afternoon guys, I would like to share a hand I played on Mtt, with QhQc x Kc9d, chances of winning QQ with 71.13% and Kc9d with 28.45%, flop 7d Ks Qs, now I with QQ, I have 97, 01%, turn Jh , now I have 90.65%, river Tc, the villain makes a sequel and wins the QQQ.
I have the impression that software, determines the independent winner of the cards, I have seen hands that are far behind the pre-flop, vecering stronger hands.
AKs losing to K9o
AQo losing to Ajo
KK losing to JJ
QQ losing to K9o
I think the software determines pre-flop who wins, player 6 for example, and this player's cards do not make a difference, so I see AA, often losing online poker.
Playing a coin and choosing a face, you have a 50% chance to hit, if you are to play face or crown on the computer, that probability has to continue.
The probability of an AA, winning is not equal to that of live poker, I rarely see AA not lose live, already in online poker AA, lose straight.
I love playing poker and will continue to play but draws attention to the draw of the cards online
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I have the impression that software, determines the independent winner of the cards, I have seen hands that are far behind the pre-flop, vecering stronger hands.
AKs losing to K9o
AQo losing to Ajo
KK losing to JJ
QQ losing to K9o
I think the software determines pre-flop who wins, player 6 for example, and this player's cards do not make a difference, so I see AA, often losing online poker.
Playing a coin and choosing a face, you have a 50% chance to hit, if you are to play face or crown on the computer, that probability has to continue.
The probability of an AA, winning is not equal to that of live poker, I rarely see AA not lose live, already in online poker AA, lose straight.
I love playing poker and will continue to play but draws attention to the draw of the cards online
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thwenth1983
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Good morning everyone, I've done previous posts talking about the unusual results in online poker, today I lost again with AA vs AKs, I had 87.39% chance to win, against 11.31% of the villain, my theory is that software, will alternating winners regardless of the cards, if you analyze 20 hands in a row, will notice that very strong hands lose to weaker hands, is a software standard.
AKs, losing to K9o, 77.04% vs. 21.79%
KK, losing to JJ, 81.58% vs. 18.01%
AQo, losing to AJ, 71% vs. 22.95%
These hands happened in sequence, one after another in Mtt, which I played on 07/16/2019.
In the face or crown, you have a 50% chance, if it's to play on the PC, face or crown, the probability that you win has to be the same.
In poker the probability of winning with AA is not the same as in live poker, I rarely see AA, losing in live poker.
I believe I lose playing with AA, something close to 40% of the time.
The software was programmed like this, I'm researching about it, it's not fraud, the chance to win is the same for all players.
And the bet365 poker site has the closest results to the live poker result, in my opinion.
If you agree or disagree, please leave your comment.
Good morning everyone.
AKs, losing to K9o, 77.04% vs. 21.79%
KK, losing to JJ, 81.58% vs. 18.01%
AQo, losing to AJ, 71% vs. 22.95%
These hands happened in sequence, one after another in Mtt, which I played on 07/16/2019.
In the face or crown, you have a 50% chance, if it's to play on the PC, face or crown, the probability that you win has to be the same.
In poker the probability of winning with AA is not the same as in live poker, I rarely see AA, losing in live poker.
I believe I lose playing with AA, something close to 40% of the time.
The software was programmed like this, I'm researching about it, it's not fraud, the chance to win is the same for all players.
And the bet365 poker site has the closest results to the live poker result, in my opinion.
If you agree or disagree, please leave your comment.
Good morning everyone.
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puzzlefish
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I came to a similar conclusion. Good luck on trying to decipher it.
Rui Ferreira
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Lately it's hard to believe
I have never fully believed but always gave a vote of confidence, but more lately I have seen every absurdity that has almost completely discredited it
I hope it is safe, and that the dark hands are only chance of the same game
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I have never fully believed but always gave a vote of confidence, but more lately I have seen every absurdity that has almost completely discredited it
I hope it is safe, and that the dark hands are only chance of the same game
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Basically yes. I dont think, the RNG on the sites, where I play, is rigged, or that the site is full of players using bots, colluding, or being able to see other players cards (super user). If I thought, any of this was happening to a significant degree, I would withdraw all my funds and not play any more, simple as that.
With that being said, there are many small poker sites around, and I dont think, anyone can say with 100% certainty, that there is not a rotten apple somewhere among them. So vigilance is obviously required, and the more so, the larger the amount of money, which you deposit and play for. This is no different from live poker really, where you might go to shady home games, face colluders or get robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot of the casino.
With that being said, there are many small poker sites around, and I dont think, anyone can say with 100% certainty, that there is not a rotten apple somewhere among them. So vigilance is obviously required, and the more so, the larger the amount of money, which you deposit and play for. This is no different from live poker really, where you might go to shady home games, face colluders or get robbed at gunpoint in the parking lot of the casino.
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drhousethebest
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I decided to stop playing online. So many bad beats.
I had K9 in the big blind.
the flop came KK9, I flopped a boat!!
decided to check the flop to get some value.
The turn an A
I raised.
3 people call
the river another A
I could not believe it!! I knew I was beat at that point. 2 people split the pot.
since that hand I stopped playing on that site.
But I play a lot of live poker, and I saw so many bad beats. So I comeback and play online and accepted my fate.
Sometimes you are going to lose
puzzlefish
Legend
Loyaler
Yeah the flopped boat going tits up is a pretty common eliminator. I see my fair share of bad beats in live and online, but only online is it consistent that big stacks get winning hole cards when they sit in position, and small stacks get winning cards so rarely that winning against big stacks becomes a science. And this is dealing with all-in betting pre-flop. Someone else mentioned an elimination bot theorem.. this is exactly what is happening to make games end faster and to move stacks around if there is not enough movement. Whether that takes AA getting crushed by trashy flushes or something more sophisticated, like double-overpaired boards to knock out smaller pairs and give the big stack with the Ace the win, it's really an amazing construct.
Senor1droop
Rising Star
Bronze Level
This sounds like my daily deal
shane4050
Rock Star
Silver Level
I trust it almost as much as i do myself to not spill my morning coffee. i mean I dont think its going to happen but at the end of the day its inevitable that im going to drop it one day so i invest about the same into it as i do coffee.
Inequitas
Legend
Silver Level
Hmmm thats one way to think about it I've not considered before now, I'm on my second cup this morning and all is good so far...
Igorek1313
Rock Star
Silver Level
only poker stars ...
goaldriversv
Legend
Platinum Level
if you want to play online poker, not sure what choice you have. i play micro stakes so i have no concerns about playing up to $5 sngs/mtts. i'm sure there's some shady stuff going on in tournaments and cash games, but it's so little money for fun entertainment, that i just play anyway
shane4050
Rock Star
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haha right that statement has alot of range as im sure we all drink enough coffee to sustain a decent bankroll.
WDStipa
Visionary
Bronze Level
I just got kicked out from the tournament by having KK in my hand, the opponent had 8J. I raised 4 x BB preflop and he called. Turn gave him card which he needed for having straight (scale).
That happens way to often in online poker. Way to often.
That happens way to often in online poker. Way to often.
James_Harrison
Rock Star
Silver Level
I just got kicked out from the tournament by having KK in my hand, the opponent had 8J. I raised 4 x BB preflop and he called. Turn gave him card which he needed for having straight (scale).
That happens way to often in online poker. Way to often.
Just busted with the 96 of spades from the small blind, he had the A5 of spades, we both made flushes (totally rigged blind v blind i know but it was a freeroll).
Going to avoid tilting even though it means nothing. I cant afford to piss anymore people off at the moment lol.
It might not help you win, but avoiding tilt, (if you gain nothing or lose nothing) is best because sometimes other people that deserve it get involved.. and thats not right because we need to learn to seperate situations, right or wrong.
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FlopGrinder
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Is about enjoy or not enjoy. But true enough, trust is important too. Dont wanna play poker on windows since everyone uses Poker HUD. I mobile is relatively much safer. You play fair and square with other people from same standpoint.
Dont wanna play poker on windows since everyone uses Poker HUD. I mobile is relatively much safer. You play fair and square with other people from same standpoint.
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dgroes
Visionary
Silver Level
There are people who theorize exactly this. And there are days I notice this exactly taking place over and over and there are days when all is normal. We don´t know the logic of the software.... Else we´d all be beating it, huh? There are days though it seems that they alternate winners. Keeping everyone happy and hoping while being raked out. I can imagine that.
