Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[John A]

Almost 150 bbs deep on a flop like that, checking the flop is the best play. You're going to have a lot of mid pairs and SCs.

I don't hate betting the turn if our opponent checks the flop, more for equity protection because you're mainly folding out worse hands. I doubt he has AK often enough.

Most of your range should be checked on this flop because of texture and stack depth. So really only two pairs+ would I bet here, and I'd be checking nearly all over pairs and AK/AQ. It would be slightly off balance (not much), but it will make your more $'s.

 

[Alucard]

Hero (UTG): 106.55 BB
MP: 221.85 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 18.26, 3Bet Preflop: 5.44, Hands: 1,181)
CO: 104.1 BB (VPIP: 24.38, PFR: 16.70, 3Bet Preflop: 4.01, Hands: 3,160)
BTN: 160.25 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 19.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.00, Hands: 5,841)
SB: 54.7 BB (VPIP: 35.62, PFR: 19.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 77)
BB: 394.3 BB (VPIP: 25.70, PFR: 19.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.59, Hands: 7,052)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4d 5d
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (9 BB, 3 players) 5c 5h Qd
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 3.6 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.9 BB, Hero calls 6.3 BB

Turn : (28.8 BB, 2 players) 2d
BB bets 14.4 BB, Hero calls 14.4 BB

River : (57.6 BB, 2 players) Ah
BB bets 367 BB, fold

BB wins 53.8 BB

your thoughts?
His line is weird af specially 1/2 potting turn then ob shoving river. but I'm trying to find what he'd bluff with here and no hands makes sense.
maybe he did this with AQ.
The 5x es he can have aare very limited. We chop with most while losing to A5s & maybe K5s. But I don't think he'd OB shove river with K5s. btw his flop raise cb is 11%

 

[pabloT]

re raise PF? :O

 

[John A]

Hero (UTG): 106.55 BB
MP: 221.85 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 18.26, 3Bet Preflop: 5.44, Hands: 1,181)
CO: 104.1 BB (VPIP: 24.38, PFR: 16.70, 3Bet Preflop: 4.01, Hands: 3,160)
BTN: 160.25 BB (VPIP: 25.45, PFR: 19.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.00, Hands: 5,841)
SB: 54.7 BB (VPIP: 35.62, PFR: 19.18, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 77)
BB: 394.3 BB (VPIP: 25.70, PFR: 19.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.59, Hands: 7,052)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4d 5d
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (9 BB, 3 players) 5c 5h Qd
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 3.6 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.9 BB, Hero calls 6.3 BB

Turn : (28.8 BB, 2 players) 2d
BB bets 14.4 BB, Hero calls 14.4 BB

River : (57.6 BB, 2 players) Ah
BB bets 367 BB, fold

BB wins 53.8 BB

your thoughts?
His line is weird af specially 1/2 potting turn then ob shoving river. but I'm trying to find what he'd bluff with here and no hands makes sense.
maybe he did this with AQ.
The 5x es he can have aare very limited. We chop with most while losing to A5s & maybe K5s. But I don't think he'd OB shove river with K5s. btw his flop raise cb is 11%

The raise pre is not the best. I think the long term results on opening this hand UTG is REALLY bad the last I looked.

I'd 3-bet the flop honestly. If he's CRing that board there MW, we want to get the money now and a 3-bet looks pretty bluffy by you.

I think I'm calling it off on the river. Only one 5 left in the deck so he'd have to have something like A5/56 like you mentioned. Think there's enough Qx, chops, and air here to call river.

 

[Figaroo2]

John
Bearing in mind the SB is fishy, what would you call with here if it was you in the BB?

 

[RiverLord90]

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[John A]

Hey John, I just discovered this thread really want to get involved. I got an error message when I entered my info for the download for the ebook:

Is there anyway I can still grab a copy of it?

It was probably a temp issue. We were changing some settings in our email server the other day. Try again. If you still have an issue, let me know and I'll find some other way to get it to you.

 

[ACEWOLF56]

Mostly regular tables, no brainer for me.
Only real decision of the session.

Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $75.32 (251.1 bb)
BB: $34.32 (114.4 bb)
UTG+1: $30 (100 bb)VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 2.6, Hands: 5926
UTG+2: $38.81 (129.4 bb)
MP1: $32.52 (108.4 bb)
MP2: $29.10 (97 bb)
Hero (MP3): $35.16 (117.2 bb)
CO: $6.27 (20.9 bb)
BTN: $32.01 (106.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[emoji813] J[emoji815]
UTG+1 raises to $0.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.90, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.25) T[emoji815] 3[emoji812] 9[emoji812] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 2[emoji815] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $3.49, Hero calls $3.49

River: ($12.23) 5[emoji813] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $8.13, Hero?

Villain is a good winning reg opens 11% from EP
barrels flop 77 , turn 64, Riv 63.

3bet pre? Pretty unexploitable river stat. but it seems as good a board as we could hope for to call down so I guess I should?

Each street post flop and on he bet just over your projected hand value at the street. Weather he has and over like you (which means a higher pocket pair), hit a set and trying to take you off your over pair, or have two pair (which would be inconceivable when you consider his preflop raise), if he wins the pot it would definitely be a strong recipe for after tilt.

 

[John A]

John
Bearing in mind the SB is fishy, what would you call with here if it was you in the BB?

Most suited connectors, maybe some mid/high unsuited connectors, A2xs+, and other standard hands. I wouldn't go too nuts because of where the original open is. If it was MP etc, I might 3-bet a decent amount of those hands as well to try and get it HUs versus SB.

 

[EuropeanManiac]

Hi, I tried to download the e-book but from the looks of it im over a decade too late. Have you taken it down?

 

[John A]

Nope, it's still there:

https://www.acepokersolutions.com/free-poker-books/

 

[or3o1990]

Hey peeps, it's been awhile. Am I still a fish or what?


iPoker - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118.02 BB (VPIP: 4.55, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
SB: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 15.15, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): 146.88 BB
UTG: 112.2 BB (VPIP: 70.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: 99.88 BB (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has X X

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣ J♥ 2♥
Hero checks, UTG bets 2.38 BB, Hero raises to 7.76 BB, UTG calls 5.38 BB

Turn: (18.02 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero bets 12.84 BB, UTG raises to 25.68 BB, Hero calls 12.84 BB

River: (69.38 BB, 2 players) 5♠
Hero bets 112.44 BB, UTG calls 77.76 BB

Ok, I know that this line seems pretty weird here. I'm not going to give the hand away yet but I am definitely betting for value and I felt in the moment like check raising made more sense but also that I could represent a missed flush or J. I couldn't be sure if it was better to c/r and give him an opportuninty to bluff with missed flushes and jacks or to shove as I did. I didn't have any reads, other than stacks and his early position open limp. I figure him for a fish for sure. Can anyone guess my hand?

 

[John A]

55 or AJ

 

[or3o1990]

oooooh, the answer we were looking for was 66. Bruce nailed it and suggested that it might have been better to 3bet and gii on the turn.

 

[Alucard]

I'd like a min 3b on that spot with 6s or 2s on turn. If he's giiing draws then jamming seems the better option.

 

[or3o1990]

i think i do like a jam on the turn. it also helps me to avoid the kind of confusing river spot i found myself in.

 

[John A]

oooooh, the answer we were looking for was 66. Bruce nailed it and suggested that it might have been better to 3bet and gii on the turn.

I was trying to go for the less obvious choice. And yes, on the turn the stack sizes are a little strange. I might min 3-bet the turn and shove river since he's a fish. You don't want to give them any chance to get away.

 

[John A]

i think i do like a jam on the turn. it also helps me to avoid the kind of confusing river spot i found myself in.

What did he end up having... Jx?

 

[Alucard]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.77, PFR: 19.74, 3Bet Preflop: 11.02, Hands: 3,949)
UTG: 70.6 BB (VPIP: 50.77, PFR: 9.02, 3Bet Preflop: 3.31, Hands: 403)
MP: 55.7 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
CO: 174.5 BB (VPIP: 25.62, PFR: 19.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.44, Hands: 11,031)
Hero (BTN): 108.35 BB
SB: 110.1 BB (VPIP: 18.62, PFR: 12.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.85, Hands: 536)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jd Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop : (19.5 BB, 2 players) Ks 9c Ah
CO checks, Hero bets 7.8 BB, CO calls 7.8 BB

Turn : (35.1 BB, 2 players) 9s
CO checks, Hero checks

River : (35.1 BB, 2 players) Ts
CO checks, Hero bets 24.55 BB, CO raises to 157.7 BB,


Had a discussion about this hand. I don't think it's an easy fold because which hands would play it like this?

 

[or3o1990]

I was trying to go for the less obvious choice. And yes, on the turn the stack sizes are a little strange. I might min 3-bet the turn and shove river since he's a fish. You don't want to give them any chance to get away.

yeah i was trying to pot stick'm lol but I value owned myself. In this instance he had J6.

 

[or3o1990]

Had a discussion about this hand. I don't think it's an easy fold because which hands would play it like this?

AQs, A9s idk how many suited aces and broadways he's calling with. Probably not A9, right? QJs. There aren't a whole lot of flush combos but there could be some two pairs and sets and even bluffs. i'd call.

 

[John A]

Article I wrote for upswing poker:

https://upswingpoker.com/drivehud-assigning-ranges/

 

[John A]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.77, PFR: 19.74, 3Bet Preflop: 11.02, Hands: 3,949)
UTG: 70.6 BB (VPIP: 50.77, PFR: 9.02, 3Bet Preflop: 3.31, Hands: 403)
MP: 55.7 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
CO: 174.5 BB (VPIP: 25.62, PFR: 19.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.44, Hands: 11,031)
Hero (BTN): 108.35 BB
SB: 110.1 BB (VPIP: 18.62, PFR: 12.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.85, Hands: 536)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jd Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Flop : (19.5 BB, 2 players) Ks 9c Ah
CO checks, Hero bets 7.8 BB, CO calls 7.8 BB

Turn : (35.1 BB, 2 players) 9s
CO checks, Hero checks

River : (35.1 BB, 2 players) Ts
CO checks, Hero bets 24.55 BB, CO raises to 157.7 BB,


Had a discussion about this hand. I don't think it's an easy fold because which hands would play it like this?

Yeah I think you need to fold though. The better question is what hands is he calling the flop and then bluffing off his stack w/ on the river? KJ (you have a jack), KQ. Maybe some weak aces, but he'd had to be pretty agro to bluff there w/ two 9's on board (because of some splits. As far as what hands beat you... 9T, AsXs (AJ, and Ax little), 99, maybe TT, a slow played KK/AA and then you have a split also with QJ.

 

[Figaroo2]

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $10.20 (102 bb)
UTG+2: $12.77 (127.7 bb)
MP1: $18.45 (184.5 bb)
MP2: $16.45 (164.5 bb)
MP3: $10.35 (103.5 bb)
CO: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $15.29 (152.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T♥ Q♠
UTG+2 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.55) 5♠ 6♦ Q♦ (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets $0.49, Hero calls $0.49, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.49

Turn: ($3.02) 5♦ (3 players)
MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.02) 5♥ (3 players)
MP3 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $1.44, MP3 folds, CO raises to $9.36, Hero?


Not many reads it was only my 3rd hand on the table having picked up a decent pot in the blinds and stacked the table fish already.
Ok I sat here thinking Is he trying to push me off a chop here?.
If he had 66 he'd bet turn for value right?
Could he have trip 5's on the turn? and doesn't want to bet as the flush arrives and he wants the chance to boat up before committing some chips. With the preflop call train I think that brings in more 5x suited connectors. But meh if he has quads he needs to bet river as he has no idea if im going to bet.
What do we think?

 

[or3o1990]

i'd call. i can't think of any 5 that would bet the flop and not the turn besides maybe 56.