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I'll try to reply in depth to this when I'm not at work but to be clear! I never said 3bet for information. It's for Value. We only 3 bet for value or as a bluff. And jacks are for value. I also hate the expression or the concept for information so I obviously didn't make that clear sorry.

Also, I'm not saying if we call turn we can't fold river but that river card is really the best we can hope for.
To be fair I would think villain could have AKo in his range

Sure, well add a range that you think he's going to bluff with.

In my experience w/ the data, players like this won't usually 3 barrel AK on a draw heavy board. But add in the combos you think he'll have and then see if you can find enough where it makes sense to call.
 
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB)
BTN ($18.2) [VPIP: 66.7% | PFR: 20% | AGG: 25% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | hands: 15]
SB ($24) [VPIP: 100% | PFR: 50% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 2]
HERO ($50) [VPIP: 31.9% | PFR: 25.3% | AGG: 38.9% | 3-Bet: 11.8% | Hands: 1565]

Dealt to Hero: Q:spade: A:club:

BTN Folds, SB Raises To $1.50, HERO Raises To $3.50, SB Calls $2

Hero SPR on Flop: [2.93 effective]
Flop ($7.00): 2:spade: 3:club: 9:club:
SB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($7.00): 2:spade: 3:club: 9:club: A:heart:
SB Checks, HERO Bets $4 (Rem. Stack: 42.5), SB Calls $4 (Rem. Stack: 16.50)

River ($15.00): 2:spade: 3:club: 9:club: A:heart: K:heart:
SB Checks, HERO Bets $42.50 (allin), SB Calls $16.50 (allin)
 
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Thank you, I am already reading the book.
 
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Hi guys,
Sorry for the interruption in your study's, but i have a question for John.

Hi John,

Do you have a strategy for hyper turbo with 2 minute levels on a 9-handed table?

I would be much obliged if you could give some pointers:)
 
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Hi guys,
Sorry for the interruption in your study's, but i have a question for John.

Hi John,

Do you have a strategy for hyper turbo with 2 minute levels on a 9-handed table?

I would be much obliged if you could give some pointers:)

I'd love to help but I don't have any general strategy there, and I'm not much of a S&G player honestly. I've never been a big fan of them. I'm primarily a cash game player that honeymoons as a high stakes tournament player. :)

Maybe someone in the group can point you to a good resource?
 
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I'd love to help but I don't have any general strategy there, and I'm not much of a S&G player honestly. I've never been a big fan of them. I'm primarily a cash game player that honeymoons as a high stakes tournament player. :)

Maybe someone in the group can point you to a good resource?

Ok no prob bro.
Thanks for the reply
 
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Anyone have a good resource for S&G tips?
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 87.95 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (BB): 104.45 BB
CO: 138.7 BB (VPIP: 41.36, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 2.83, Hands: 481)
BTN: 128.3 BB (VPIP: 24.16, PFR: 18.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.97, Hands: 426)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has As 7s
CO checks, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Flop : (10 BB, 3 players) Ad 7c 4s
Hero checks, CO bets 6 BB, BTN raises to 19.6 BB,

do we 3b here? I feel it's super strong & CO is a decent reg. Flatting leaves us vulnerable to getting outdrawn. A K,Q would be pretty bad.
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
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BTN: 163.05 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 139.55 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 127.85 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 14.39, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 286)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 20)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jc Ac
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, UTG calls 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB

Flop : (43 BB, 3 players) Qc Ts 4d
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets 21.5 BB,

Is this a float with the BDFD? I feel leading here would be cheaper than xcalling


I ran some equilab numbers assuming the UTG would tag on and here's what I got. But if we disregard the UTG we have more equity

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 3dQhTc
Equity Win Tie
MP2 21.12% 20.74% 0.38% { JJ, 99, ATs, JTs, T9s }
BU 55.14% 54.78% 0.35% { AQs, KJs+, QTs+ }
SB 23.74% 23.06% 0.68% { AcJc }
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 87.95 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (BB): 104.45 BB
CO: 138.7 BB (VPIP: 41.36, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 2.83, Hands: 481)
BTN: 128.3 BB (VPIP: 24.16, PFR: 18.90, 3Bet Preflop: 8.97, Hands: 426)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has As 7s
CO checks, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB

Flop : (10 BB, 3 players) Ad 7c 4s
Hero checks, CO bets 6 BB, BTN raises to 19.6 BB,

do we 3b here? I feel it's super strong & CO is a decent reg. Flatting leaves us vulnerable to getting outdrawn. A K,Q would be pretty bad.


Yeah, these are always tough spots when there's no real draws present. Some draws, this is a good shove. Without, 3-betting looks strong, shoving is too strong versus the raising range. You just need to flat, and hope your opponent thinks you're a dumbass basically. :)
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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MP: 146.7 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 13.65, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 1,674)
CO: 75.4 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
BTN: 156.65 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 62)
Hero (SB): 286.6 BB
BB: 102.65 BB (VPIP: 31.00, PFR: 19.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 564)
UTG: 222.6 BB (VPIP: 30.80, PFR: 22.57, 3Bet Preflop: 6.53, Hands: 1,117)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has As Ks
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 9c Ah Kd
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) Jc
Hero bets 8 BB, BB raises to 29 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River : (68.8 BB, 2 players) Qc
Hero checks, BB bets 23 BB, fold

BB wins 64.25 BB


No turn raises before out of 6, we are beaten on turn by 9s & QT. With the BDFD I think this might be a jam? I was hesitant due to the size & his no raise stats
 
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In my opinion you should've jammed the turn. Curious to see what John thinks.
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

MP: 146.7 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 13.65, 3Bet Preflop: 6.10, Hands: 1,674)
CO: 75.4 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
BTN: 156.65 BB (VPIP: 46.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 62)
Hero (SB): 286.6 BB
BB: 102.65 BB (VPIP: 31.00, PFR: 19.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 564)
UTG: 222.6 BB (VPIP: 30.80, PFR: 22.57, 3Bet Preflop: 6.53, Hands: 1,117)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has As Ks
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 9c Ah Kd
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) Jc
Hero bets 8 BB, BB raises to 29 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River : (68.8 BB, 2 players) Qc
Hero checks, BB bets 23 BB, fold

BB wins 64.25 BB


No turn raises before out of 6, we are beaten on turn by 9s & QT. With the BDFD I think this might be a jam? I was hesitant due to the size & his no raise stats


How aggressive was he overall? I think calling the turn is best. You're ahead of KJ, AJ (probably 3 betting some % of the time), and J9, and there's not enough draws in his range on that turn. Think if you jam you're probably only being called by AJ, and KJ (% of the time). The river is close, and probably a call considering the BvB situation and the fact he could bet some worse 2 pairs, and there will be some bluffs in there. Think the fact the Q hits makes me learn towards a call since QT is the most reasonable hand you're behind at that point.
 
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How aggressive was he overall?

He was aggro before but I see some passiveness to his game recently. At least vs me cause I'm playing a bit more aggro


iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 118.35 BB (VPIP: 25.82, PFR: 20.60, 3Bet Preflop: 6.70, Hands: 1,812)
BTN: 76.1 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 11.07, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 251)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 73 BB (VPIP: 48.65, PFR: 29.73, 3Bet Preflop: 26.67, Hands: 39)
UTG: 149.85 BB (VPIP: 29.66, PFR: 22.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.63, Hands: 1,753)
MP: 103.55 BB (VPIP: 26.74, PFR: 20.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.36, Hands: 1,112)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Qc
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 8 BB

Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 9h 6d Kd
Hero checks, MP bets 11.5 BB, Hero raises to 34 BB, fold

Hero mucks Ad Qc (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 0%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 42.95 BB


Is this a good bluff raise? We block AK,KQs & NFDs so I think this was fine by me
 
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He was aggro before but I see some passiveness to his game recently. At least vs me cause I'm playing a bit more aggro


iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 118.35 BB (VPIP: 25.82, PFR: 20.60, 3Bet Preflop: 6.70, Hands: 1,812)
BTN: 76.1 BB (VPIP: 22.45, PFR: 11.07, 3Bet Preflop: 1.08, Hands: 251)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 73 BB (VPIP: 48.65, PFR: 29.73, 3Bet Preflop: 26.67, Hands: 39)
UTG: 149.85 BB (VPIP: 29.66, PFR: 22.62, 3Bet Preflop: 6.63, Hands: 1,753)
MP: 103.55 BB (VPIP: 26.74, PFR: 20.60, 3Bet Preflop: 7.36, Hands: 1,112)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Qc
fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, MP calls 8 BB

Flop : (23 BB, 2 players) 9h 6d Kd
Hero checks, MP bets 11.5 BB, Hero raises to 34 BB, fold

Hero mucks Ad Qc (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 0%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 42.95 BB


Is this a good bluff raise? We block AK,KQs & NFDs so I think this was fine by me


I mean it's fine to mix this in when you have the nfd, but ideally I'd prefer there were less draws on board. It's not a horrible board, so it's fine.
 
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Anyone who has Leak Buster, if you're interested in doing some beta testing for Leak Buster 2 let me know. We'll be doing some last beta testing this week.
 
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Anyone who has Leak Buster, if you're interested in doing some beta testing for Leak Buster 2 let me know. We'll be doing some last beta testing this week.

+1... one more spot. If someone is interested, PM me.
 
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iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: 118.3 BB (VPIP: 25.58, PFR: 19.83, 3Bet Preflop: 6.39, Hands: 5,860)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.46, PFR: 18.20, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 1,322)
CO: 217.08 BB (VPIP: 87.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 42.6 BB (VPIP: 18.37, PFR: 9.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 250)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 144.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ks Ad
fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, CO calls 14.5 BB, fold

Flop : (39.5 BB, 2 players) 9c 7h 8d
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn : (39.5 BB, 2 players) 8s
Hero checks, CO checks

River : (39.5 BB, 2 players) 2s
Hero checks, CO checks


should we bet this flop? Or bet at any point? What's the range we should bet here & check here?
 
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