Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[Alucard]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): 224.4 BB
UTG: 51.55 BB (VPIP: 57.55, PFR: 6.60, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 106)
CO: 111.8 BB (VPIP: 31.23, PFR: 20.86, 3Bet Preflop: 6.46, Hands: 5,551)
BTN: 186.1 BB (VPIP: 32.34, PFR: 4.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.73, Hands: 1,815)
SB: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 88)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Ks
UTG calls 1 BB, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 186.1 BB,

He has 1% 3b pre

 

[John A]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): 224.4 BB
UTG: 51.55 BB (VPIP: 57.55, PFR: 6.60, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 106)
CO: 111.8 BB (VPIP: 31.23, PFR: 20.86, 3Bet Preflop: 6.46, Hands: 5,551)
BTN: 186.1 BB (VPIP: 32.34, PFR: 4.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.73, Hands: 1,815)
SB: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 27.91, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 88)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Ks
UTG calls 1 BB, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 186.1 BB,

He has 1% 3b pre

That's pretty strange. Is he tilting at all? That play makes no sense that deep with him over calling. Were you or others in the blind squeezing a lot?

Without further info of the above, just fold. You're too deep. I guess he has some strong higher mid pair or AK and wants to gamble, or he decided to overcall w/ AA/KK even though that seems like a super bad play.

 

[Alucard]

That's pretty strange. Is he tilting at all? That play makes no sense that deep with him over calling. Were you or others in the blind squeezing a lot?

Without further info of the above, just fold. You're too deep. I guess he has some strong higher mid pair or AK and wants to gamble, or he decided to overcall w/ AA/KK even though that seems like a super bad play.

It's just the way that guy plays, limps or calls everything, pots flops etc, He had aces here. If I gave it some thought I would've folded. Was multitabling & distracted so snapped it off

 

[Alucard]

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 93.9 BB (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 78)
Hero (UTG): 105.52 BB
MP: 214.92 BB (VPIP: 21.01, PFR: 16.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 5,090)
CO: 163.9 BB (VPIP: 23.05, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 10.58, Hands: 290)
BTN: 70.76 BB (VPIP: 48.72, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 119)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.32, PFR: 21.10, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 10,158)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ks Ts
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) Qc 2d 4d
Hero bets 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB

Turn : (13.5 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, CO bets 9.44 BB, Hero calls 9.44 BB

River : (32.38 BB, 2 players) Js
Hero checks, CO bets 22.66 BB, Hero raises to 90.08 BB, CO calls 67.42 BB

I made kind of an irrational bluff yesterday & I'm wondering if it makes any sense. I'm trying to make him fold AQ,KQ, maybe QJ in this spot. We already beat all of his bluffs which is very limited to Flush draws.
He's loose & a big floater.
My thoughts on this spot were that he'd be 3betting TT+, And it's not likely he has 2s or 4s here.
But we have all TT+ & AK. & I'd figure I'd play TT-QQ very similar to this & perpahs AK as well.
And we don't have showdown value vs a triple except for bluff catching.
But ofc I'm targetting so little value hands

 

[John A]

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BB: 93.9 BB (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 78)
Hero (UTG): 105.52 BB
MP: 214.92 BB (VPIP: 21.01, PFR: 16.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 5,090)
CO: 163.9 BB (VPIP: 23.05, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 10.58, Hands: 290)
BTN: 70.76 BB (VPIP: 48.72, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 119)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.32, PFR: 21.10, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 10,158)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ks Ts
Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (7.5 BB, 2 players) Qc 2d 4d
Hero bets 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB

Turn : (13.5 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, CO bets 9.44 BB, Hero calls 9.44 BB

River : (32.38 BB, 2 players) Js
Hero checks, CO bets 22.66 BB, Hero raises to 90.08 BB, CO calls 67.42 BB

I made kind of an irrational bluff yesterday & I'm wondering if it makes any sense. I'm trying to make him fold AQ,KQ, maybe QJ in this spot. We already beat all of his bluffs which is very limited to Flush draws.
He's loose & a big floater.
My thoughts on this spot were that he'd be 3betting TT+, And it's not likely he has 2s or 4s here.
But we have all TT+ & AK. & I'd figure I'd play TT-QQ very similar to this & perpahs AK as well.
And we don't have showdown value vs a triple except for bluff catching.
But ofc I'm targetting so little value hands

Pretty difficult to get people to fold 2 pair when draws miss and you check/call the turn. It's just a difficult line to take in general - turn check/call, river check/jam. The hand range needs to fit a lot more because there's just not enough that would take this line an expect to get paid (your hand). The range you're saying, just doesn't fit. TT+/AK.

 

[John A]

It's just the way that guy plays, limps or calls everything, pots flops etc, He had aces here. If I gave it some thought I would've folded. Was multitabling & distracted so snapped it off

I hope you made a note here at least.

 

[Alucard]

John how should I adjust to playing cash games that have antes?

I've the chance to play some fishy games with a small blind ante - ex - 2/4(2)
games running from HU,6max to full ring

What ae the adjustments I should make?
While the games are fishy I've noticed that players are way aggro than your general fish. So much straddling & betting going on.
Should I buy in 100BB or even 200BB+?
Also BR managment for ante games?

 

[Alucard]

Also the UTG seems to straddle everytime so I think UTG straddle is mandatory.

 

[John A]

John how should I adjust to playing cash games that have antes?

I've the chance to play some fishy games with a small blind ante - ex - 2/4(2)
games running from HU,6max to full ring

What ae the adjustments I should make?
While the games are fishy I've noticed that players are way aggro than your general fish. So much straddling & betting going on.
Should I buy in 100BB or even 200BB+?
Also BR managment for ante games?

I assume these are on chinese poker Apps?

You just need to tighten up your high unpaired starting range, as those go way down in value unless you're in a stealing position. Your open sizing needs to get much larger obviously, and your cold calling in position should get much wider with suited / off suited connected , one gappers.

There's going to be a lot of dumb bluffing on those games, so just keep that in mind. And yes, I'd buy in for at least 200bbs.

BR management still applies, just add the ante into the blind amounts and do at least a 20 buy in, ideally 30+ buy-in rule.

 

[Alucard]

I assume these are on chinese poker apps?

yup. Some games I've seen are pretty wild. Pretty high stakes too.
Right now I'm playing a couple of tables at pppoker, they are fishy but not as wild as I've seen at some other apps.
Sucks some doesn't have proper HUD support & can't make notes properly.
Also make me wanna learn Chinese

 

[John A]

yup. Some games I've seen are pretty wild. Pretty high stakes too.
Right now I'm playing a couple of tables at pppoker, they are fishy but not as wild as I've seen at some other apps.
Sucks some doesn't have proper HUD support & can't make notes properly.
Also make me wanna learn Chinese

Yeah, the games are pretty crazy and profitable. If you want recommendations on poker clubs, I have some good ones.

You can run a HUD on there w/ our pppoker card catcher. It will work for most poker databases included drivehud.

http://drivehud.com/pppoker-hud

 

[Alucard]

If you want recommendations on poker clubs, I have some good ones.

I'd appreciate it.
I've used the trial hud catcher on pt4 but haven't bought it yet. Still dabbling in some lower stakes with 2 accounts so no need for a hud atm
Games are a bit reggy at the club I'm in right now but with 40% rb it's pretty decent. Some clubs are a bit shady which comes & goes.
World poker deals are my agent for now

 

[John A]

I'd appreciate it.
I've used the trial hud catcher on pt4 but haven't bought it yet. Still dabbling in some lower stakes with 2 accounts so no need for a hud atm
Games are a bit reggy at the club I'm in right now but with 40% rb it's pretty decent. Some clubs are a bit shady which comes & goes.
World poker deals are my agent for now

Yeah, world poker deals is good, and I know another one started by "the grinder" Michael M.

 

[razzor94]

Hi guys ! I am relatively new to this thread. I've been a long time follower but I have never been that much active on the forum until recently so I never posted here.
I think since I started playing AK suited or offsuit have been the most difficult hands to play, especially OOP when deciding to 4bet or call and then play post flop.
This is a spot I haven't encountered that often so I want to ask is it good and is there another way to play this spot more profitably.
I usually don't 4bet jam but in this case it seemed appropriate since I raise on the bigger side when I am OOP and 4betting to something like 3,5$ would leave me pretty much committed.

Also I've seen a lot of player just 4bet shoving after they open and I 3bet. What's up with that ? Is it be the best +EV decision against some players or is it just some kind of donk play ?

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
Hero (BB): $19.35 (193.5 bb)
UTG: $43.39 (433.9 bb)
MP: $23.78 (237.8 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $11.79 (117.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

A

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $19.35 and is all-in, BTN calls $11.39, SB calls $8.60 and is all-in

Flop: ($33.48) 3

A

9

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($33.48) 6

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($33.48) 2

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $33.48 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 3

A

9

6

2

 

[John A]

Hi guys ! I am relatively new to this thread. I've been a long time follower but I have never been that much active on the forum until recently so I never posted here.
I think since I started playing AK suited or offsuit have been the most difficult hands to play, especially OOP when deciding to 4bet or call and then play post flop.
This is a spot I haven't encountered that often so I want to ask is it good and is there another way to play this spot more profitably.
I usually don't 4bet jam but in this case it seemed appropriate since I raise on the bigger side when I am OOP and 4betting to something like 3,5$ would leave me pretty much committed.

Also I've seen a lot of player just 4bet shoving after they open and I 3bet. What's up with that ? Is it be the best +EV decision against some players or is it just some kind of donk play ?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $9.90 (99 bb)
Hero (BB): $19.35 (193.5 bb)
UTG: $43.39 (433.9 bb)
MP: $23.78 (237.8 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $11.79 (117.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

A

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.40, SB raises to $1.30, Hero raises to $19.35 and is all-in, BTN calls $11.39, SB calls $8.60 and is all-in

Flop: ($33.48) 3

A

9

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($33.48) 6

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($33.48) 2

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $33.48 pot ($1.50 rake)
Final Board: 3

A

9

6

2

Welcome... ask as many questions as you want in here.

Well, I wouldn't just shove... when you do that you're really ISOing your opponents range. Sizing doesn't really matter much in 4-bet pots. It's more about establishing your hand for value in this case. So you can go to $2.50 for example, which is what I'd recommend because you want to have a 4-bet sizing as you move up - for bluffs and value.

 

[Figaroo2]

Should we find a fold

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $18.91 (37.8 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 28, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 113 <(())><
BB: $65.50 (131 bb)
UTG+1: $58.69 (117.4 bb)
UTG+2: $55.39 (110.8 bb)VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 2, AF: 4.6, Hands: 128 Very aggro
MP1: $56.25 (112.5 bb)
MP2: $37.10 (74.2 bb)
Hero (MP3): $56.01 (112 bb)
CO: $55.64 (111.3 bb)
BTN: $31.20 (62.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6♣ 6♠
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($6.25) A♥ J♥ 6♥ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets $5, MP2 folds, Hero calls $5, SB calls $5, BB folds
I felt like raising here but didn't want to push out the fish so I just called.

Turn: ($21.25) K♠ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets $18, Hero calls $18, SB calls $12.66 and is all-in
Basically just hoping he has AJ or AK or Ax with Kh here.
folding seems too tight, considered a shove if we are beaten by a bigger set boating up isn't going to make a difference.

River: ($69.91) 3♦ (3 players, 1 is all-in)
UTG+2 bets $31.14 and is all-in, Hero?

 

[Alucard]

6max I'd raise & get it in flop full ring no clue. So many callers on the flop I might just fold turn

 

[cris1768]

First time

What do I have to do to be a cardschat member, the amount of posts and what type of posts?

 

[Figaroo2]

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD
NL Holdem $0.25(BB)
BB ($20.63) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 7.7% | AGG: 30.7% | 3-Bet: 3.4% | Hands: 313]
UTG ($85.56) [VPIP: 11.8% | PFR: 9.1% | AGG: 34.9% | 3-Bet: 4.5% | Hands: 21731]
EP ($25.25) [VPIP: 16.4% | PFR: 7.8% | AGG: 29.7% | 3-Bet: 4.4% | Hands: 609]
MP1 ($50.70) [VPIP: 18.3% | PFR: 11.8% | AGG: 30.8% | 3-Bet: 4.3% | Hands: 649]
MP2 ($22.48) [VPIP: 24.4% | PFR: 13.7% | AGG: 39% | 3-Bet: 7% | Hands: 667]
HJ ($13.31) [VPIP: 36% | PFR: 6.5% | AGG: 35.4% | 3-Bet: 5.4% | Hands: 266]
CO ($35.38) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.5% | AGG: 32.9% | 3-Bet: 1.7% | Hands: 329]
HERO ($36.56)
SB ($40.94) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 8.9% | AGG: 39.1% | 3-Bet: 1.3% | Hands: 194]

Dealt to Hero: 9♥ A♥

UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP1 Folds, MP2 Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.75, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.50

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.43 effective]
Flop ($1.60): 7♦ 9♠ 8♠
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.52 (Rem. Stack: 35.29), BB Raises To $1.56 (Rem. Stack: 18.32), HERO Calls $1.04 (Rem. Stack: 34.25)

Turn ($4.72): 7♦ 9♠ 8♠ 8♦
BB Bets $3.11 (Rem. Stack: 15.21), HERO Calls $3.11 (Rem. Stack: 31.14)

River ($10.94): 7♦ 9♠ 8♠ 8♦ Q♦
BB Bets $10.25 (Rem. Stack: 4.96), HERO? (folds)

 

[Figaroo2]

What do I have to do to be a cardschat member, the amount of posts and what type of posts?

Hi Cris1768
start here
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/gen...ral-posting-guidelines-71894/post-431538.html

 

[John A]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $18.91 (37.8 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 28, 3B: 3, AF: 2.2, Hands: 113 <(())><
BB: $65.50 (131 bb)
UTG+1: $58.69 (117.4 bb)
UTG+2: $55.39 (110.8 bb)VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 2, AF: 4.6, Hands: 128 Very aggro
MP1: $56.25 (112.5 bb)
MP2: $37.10 (74.2 bb)
Hero (MP3): $56.01 (112 bb)
CO: $55.64 (111.3 bb)
BTN: $31.20 (62.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 6♣ 6♠
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $1.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls $1, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($6.25) A♥ J♥ 6♥ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets $5, MP2 folds, Hero calls $5, SB calls $5, BB folds
I felt like raising here but didn't want to push out the fish so I just called.

Turn: ($21.25) K♠ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets $18, Hero calls $18, SB calls $12.66 and is all-in
Basically just hoping he has AJ or AK or Ax with Kh here.
folding seems too tight, considered a shove if we are beaten by a bigger set boating up isn't going to make a difference.

River: ($69.91) 3♦ (3 players, 1 is all-in)
UTG+2 bets $31.14 and is all-in, Hero?

Just raise the flop. I don't think you can count on someone else getting involved, and with that bet sizing, you know he has a strong TP hand. As played, there's no way you're contemplating a fold right?

 

[Figaroo2]

Just raise the flop. I don't think you can count on someone else getting involved, and with that bet sizing, you know he has a strong TP hand. As played, there's no way you're contemplating a fold right?

I called they both had flushes the short stack fish the better one.

 

[serhat190594]

I'm following

 

[Sdfsgf]

The download link for Polished Poker doesn’t seem to be working for me. Would anyone be willing to share the file?

Thanks!

 

[John A]

I called they both had flushes the short stack fish the better one.

You made the right play.