Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Wait so what do you think his call range is? Is he folding FD's and or gutters, or does he not have them after pre? Cause I promise he isn't folding TP ever.
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Wait so what do you think his call range is? Is he folding FD's and or gutters, or does he not have them after pre? Cause I promise he isn't folding TP ever.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
The grind is going a bit better now. I'm going to try to hold off with updating every post with my current online roll, as I think that makes it get in my head somewhat. Though sometimes writing it out helps remind me that it's "just a number" really, and the swings are standard.
Anyway, suffice it to say I think I'm starting to get re-acclimated to 25nl zone, despite some growing pains. Not sure I'll be able to resist playing 50nl until a more reasonable BR size though! I'm definitely not mixing 10nl and 25nl zone anymore, as I really feel like I play 10nl badly when mixing it with other levels. Sample size is obvz lawl in my graph but I kind of feel like I just constantly lose pots there, and I probably fight too much for pots I don't have a chance of winning.
Been thinking tons about exploiting the average player in zone at 25nl+. While I like to hand-read very strongly vs. the "play of the population," I also think it's helpful to have some outright profitable preflop lines that I can just tack onto my bottom line.
Example: Folds to CO, who raises. We have XX on the BTN and we 3b pot. We lay ourselves 1:1, so if we get folds at least 50% of the time, we auto-profit.
At 25nl zone, CO is folding 55% to 3bets (that's just to any 3bet - haven't even looked at Fv3b from BTN, which should be higher). Plus, CO is folding 70% to flop cbets, and I think it's comparable if not higher in 3b pots.
Suffice it to say, there are opportunities to take profitable lines with quite a wide range of hands, and one of my goals as I develop a bigger sample is to start finding and learning to efficiently exploit those opportunities.
Working on:
- Best position to 3bet wide from (probably BTN)
- Best position to flat open-raises with plan to x/r many flops (probably BB, vs. CO- (not the BTN, which will have a wider range))
- Best situation/positions to either x/c F, x/r T (OOP); or call F, raise T (IP) -> also best board types
Let me know if you guys have any thoughts. A comprehensive 4b strategy will be on the way once I have my 3betting strategy hammered down a bit more than "3bet the shit out of everyone"
Anyway, suffice it to say I think I'm starting to get re-acclimated to 25nl zone, despite some growing pains. Not sure I'll be able to resist playing 50nl until a more reasonable BR size though! I'm definitely not mixing 10nl and 25nl zone anymore, as I really feel like I play 10nl badly when mixing it with other levels. Sample size is obvz lawl in my graph but I kind of feel like I just constantly lose pots there, and I probably fight too much for pots I don't have a chance of winning.
Been thinking tons about exploiting the average player in zone at 25nl+. While I like to hand-read very strongly vs. the "play of the population," I also think it's helpful to have some outright profitable preflop lines that I can just tack onto my bottom line.
Example: Folds to CO, who raises. We have XX on the BTN and we 3b pot. We lay ourselves 1:1, so if we get folds at least 50% of the time, we auto-profit.
At 25nl zone, CO is folding 55% to 3bets (that's just to any 3bet - haven't even looked at Fv3b from BTN, which should be higher). Plus, CO is folding 70% to flop cbets, and I think it's comparable if not higher in 3b pots.
Suffice it to say, there are opportunities to take profitable lines with quite a wide range of hands, and one of my goals as I develop a bigger sample is to start finding and learning to efficiently exploit those opportunities.
Working on:
- Best position to 3bet wide from (probably BTN)
- Best position to flat open-raises with plan to x/r many flops (probably BB, vs. CO- (not the BTN, which will have a wider range))
- Best situation/positions to either x/c F, x/r T (OOP); or call F, raise T (IP) -> also best board types
Let me know if you guys have any thoughts. A comprehensive 4b strategy will be on the way once I have my 3betting strategy hammered down a bit more than "3bet the shit out of everyone"
BenjiHustle
Legend
Silver Level
Got some call-folds in 3bet pots by opening up to suited Ace-rag hands for light 3-betting at times. Not sure if it's advisable to 3-bet A3hh, but anything can work once and that's all I ever asked it to do; work once.
I personally like to flat open raises in situations in which I'll most likely have position post-flop, which usually leaves me doing this in the CO. If there's already a caller, I might flat in the blinds with good multi-way hands; usually the BB and only occasionally with hopes of deceptively smashing the flop. If UTG raises and I'm in MP with nits behind me left to act, I can flat comfortably there, too.
I personally like to flat open raises in situations in which I'll most likely have position post-flop, which usually leaves me doing this in the CO. If there's already a caller, I might flat in the blinds with good multi-way hands; usually the BB and only occasionally with hopes of deceptively smashing the flop. If UTG raises and I'm in MP with nits behind me left to act, I can flat comfortably there, too.
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Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
10nl zone obviously rigged
BB vs Sb could add the 3b wider aside of Btn
Lol. Definitely. Definitely rigged since I'm not winning.
I already do 3b a fair bit against SB opens, though I also flat a lot too since I'm guaranteed to have position, and no one can overcall or 3b me. So that turns some hands that I'd rather not flat on the button into a call in the BB (vs. SB open). Still working on nailing down my ranges a bit more though.
Also keep in mind that it's not really getting folded to the SB that often (although I'm surprised by the number that came up in PT4 - SB has chance to open the pot as his first action = 974 total hands out of about 4,400). But even when it does, the average SB player is running VPIP/PFR of 49/21, so it's not like the range is super wide on average. If anything I need to focus on my BvB game when SB open-completes lol.
Unclear whether you're saying it's good to 3bet A3s or bad to do so lol. But I assure you that's one of the hands I 3bet with the highest frequency (though lately I've been adding stuff like ATo, KTo, and KJo to my squeeze range, since I think often they're not quite a strong enough hand to overcall with pre).
The thing about flatting in the CO is that you're going to get overcalled a ton, and ~1/3 of the time that you do get overcalled, you won't even have position. So I'm much looser on the button (where only 2 players have the opportunity to overcall or squeeze) than I am in the CO. I'm probably not as good at tightening up in the CO as I should be, either.
Also I prob wasn't clear about my intentions, cause the rest of your comments are about spots where you're trying to have a fair bit of pot equity, whereas I'm talking about spots where I have very little pot equity. I kind of already know how to play decently with equity (not as well as I'd like tho
), but I'm aiming to be able to add hands to my range that I couldn't profitably play if people knew what my range actually was.Another example: MP opens, it's folded to me in the BB, and I flat with 53o. The flop comes J72r, and I check. Villain makes a standard cbet and I x/r.
It's not like I have any pot equity here really. Yet I expect to take down the pot a decent % of the time. So far over small samples, my stats say villains are folding only about 40% to flop x/r's, but mind you this is averaged over every board. By x/r boards that villains don't hit much, I don't have to have equity.
I still have to work out some of the math on how many boards I have to be able to do it on and what my success rate has to be before it's profitable.
BenjiHustle
Legend
Silver Level
I'm saying that I don't say whether any particular play is good or not. I can only say what I do, don't do, and consider doing, and why. Some people will RAWR at 3-betting A3s and some will advocate gii PF. I like 3bet/squeeze plays with an ace in hand (blocking), but I like it even more with small pocket pairs in position because of the frequency with which villains will callPF/foldF or floatF/foldT as I can continue betting dry boards while they have to get passive and protect themselves.
I just took what you were saying as to suggest that you were already opening up on BTN, but you were looking for spots elsewhere. Calling open-raises almost always depends on how often the player(s) behind me will be calling and whether or not I'll have position. It almost never has to do with my position as much as it has to do with the other players' tendencies. I feel like this is something that is super sporadic and can only be figured out once you know what to expect from those at your table. Aside from that, it would just be the obvious BTN>CO>MP, imo. I try to avoid flatting in the blinds because it can get out of hand pretty quickly, especially being that far OOP that often.
Yeah, but this is still super obvious, imo. You can represent 22 or J7; maybe even a QJ or so. Dry boards are perfect for this situation. Now, what if it runs out AQ9hh?Also I prob wasn't clear about my intentions, cause the rest of your comments are about spots where you're trying to have a fair bit of pot equity, whereas I'm talking about spots where I have very little pot equity. I kind of already know how to play decently with equity (not as well as I'd like tho
Another example: MP opens, it's folded to me in the BB, and I flat with 53o. The flop comes J72r, and I check. Villain makes a standard cbet and I x/r.
This is a stickier situation, imo. If you x/r your example, you have your exact answer right away and you really only risk that initial raise before knowing that you can't take this pot away. However, AQ9hh is going to require barreling, but you can probably steal this pot away too, regardless of villain's hand, if you play it right and you get a little help on the turn.
So you check-raise J72r and villain calls; can you continue taking stabs at the pot? Even if you had AJ, would you continue playing it so aggressively? Is there any chance of a card coming out that scares villain at this point, in your opinion? I really don't know, but imo, there isn't. If a king comes out, we have to worry about him hitting it; if a 6 comes out, we have to worry that he knows he's still good or just doesn't have enough to fear. There's really nothing there if villain gets beyond the flop x/r as I see it.
If you x/r AQ9hh and villain calls, you have a lot of wiggle room. Another heart can give you a chance to represent an overplayed FD, a blank gives you a chance to look like you're betting for value, and another big card gives villain a lot of straights to consider, as well. No matter what comes out, you can play it like you've got it, or not; but either way your x/r will get into your opponent's head a lot more. You can even check a flush completing turn and value bet a river to look like you have top 2 or a set and didn't like the flush completing.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Okay, well your example is like the wettest board in history lol. And that's why I specified that I'm still working on the math for what % of boards have to have "favorable conditions" and my necessary fold equity.
Also, you keep talking about tendencies, figuring out what villains are doing. But this is zone. I am forever readless. I know what you are saying for other contexts of course, but it just doesn't apply here unfortunately.
Also, you keep talking about tendencies, figuring out what villains are doing. But this is zone. I am forever readless. I know what you are saying for other contexts of course, but it just doesn't apply here unfortunately.
vinylspiros
PIRANHA-------->< (((º>
Silver Level
The grind is going a bit better now. I'm going to try to hold off with updating every post with my current online roll, as I think that makes it get in my head somewhat. Though sometimes writing it out helps remind me that it's "just a number" really, and the swings are standard.
Anyway, suffice it to say I think I'm starting to get re-acclimated to 25nl zone, despite some growing pains. Not sure I'll be able to resist playing 50nl until a more reasonable BR size though! I'm definitely not mixing 10nl and 25nl zone anymore, as I really feel like I play 10nl badly when mixing it with other levels. Sample size is obvz lawl in my graph but I kind of feel like I just constantly lose pots there, and I probably fight too much for pots I don't have a chance of winning.
Been thinking tons about exploiting the average player in zone at 25nl+. While I like to hand-read very strongly vs. the "play of the population," I also think it's helpful to have some outright profitable preflop lines that I can just tack onto my bottom line.
Example: Folds to CO, who raises. We have XX on the BTN and we 3b pot. We lay ourselves 1:1, so if we get folds at least 50% of the time, we auto-profit.
At 25nl zone, CO is folding 55% to 3bets (that's just to any 3bet - haven't even looked at Fv3b from BTN, which should be higher). Plus, CO is folding 70% to flop cbets, and I think it's comparable if not higher in 3b pots.
Suffice it to say, there are opportunities to take profitable lines with quite a wide range of hands, and one of my goals as I develop a bigger sample is to start finding and learning to efficiently exploit those opportunities.
Working on:
- Best position to 3bet wide from (probably BTN)
- Best position to flat open-raises with plan to x/r many flops (probably BB, vs. CO- (not the BTN, which will have a wider range))
- Best situation/positions to either x/c F, x/r T (OOP); or call F, raise T (IP) -> also best board types
Let me know if you guys have any thoughts. A comprehensive 4b strategy will be on the way once I have my 3betting strategy hammered down a bit more than "3bet the shit out of everyone"
Some thoughts of mine about these points you made. (not saying its right,just saying its how i think and what i do sometimes.feel free to correct me if you disagree)
Best position to 3bet wide from (probably BTN)----I like 3 betting UTG opens from UTG +1 or +2 with just about anything. suited connectors, middle pocket pairs(although setmining is prolly better), j9 suited all the way down to maybe even 45 suited. Reason be that 3betting a UTG raiser from UTG+1 or +2 looks just incredibly strong to any thinking player just because ëveryone knows"that UTG opens are very tight.
Then when any A or K high flop comes out i just c-bet 40% and i can almost swear that i get more than 70% folds. Now let me say something more. Since im playing only 6 max i understand that just because someone opens from UTG doesnt mean they always have premiums. All PP from 22-99 are opening for the majority of players and of course so are premiums.
Now the thing is if i 3bet 45 suited everyone's putting me on premiums right off the bat. So when the all low flop comes out im getting paid by all overpairs that flatted 99-QQ .(not putting KK-AA in the mix cause i would expect a 4bet with these hands.). The second they flat your 3bet ,you automatically wiff out the fact that they have either AK or QQ and below.From that point on you just look at the flop and act accordingly.
Accordingly meaning you dont have to commit your entire stack in this hand if you have no outs and the flop is not favorable for a descent C bet or maybe the turn isnt favorable so you can always give up but when the situation is right, i dont think that if you play these spots well that you will be losing more than you will be winning in the long run.
Best position to flat open-raises with plan to x/r many flops (probably BB, vs. CO- (not the BTN, which will have a wider range))
BB vs SB ,BTN, CO, or HJ is fine for flatting and repping sets. Also flatting a MP raise from CO looks good for c/r flops if the board is all low or medium. Cause it looks like your talking about repping sets cause thats like one of the main hands that x/r flops right?
Best situation/positions to either x/c F, x/r T (OOP); or call F, raise T (IP) -> also best board types
best situations to x/c F, x/r T (OOP)= obviously two toned boards that hit the flush on the turn are very good candidates. Also monotone flops are good for flatting flop and then checkraising any card that didnt complete the 4 carded flush or pair the board are my best type of boards from OOP. Another board type that i like to follow this line assuming ive flatted pre OOP is TT4rainbow when i will flat his flop bet to make him wonder if i have the T, then when the K or A spikes on the turn which i assume he might have and he keeps barreling,thats when we raise turn big to freak him out and get the fold were looking for.
also flops good for this are 789 two-tone that either pairs on turn or fills the flush obviously. these are generally the type of boards i like to take this line with if im bluffing sometimes.
or call F, raise T (IP)
again i think the boards i mentioned above are all good candidates for this line. for almost the same reason except this time you dont have to c/r the turn but you just raise it.
most of the stuff i typed above is probably mumbo jumbo and totally incoherent and crazy talk but i gave it a shot man.
vinylspiros
PIRANHA-------->< (((º>
Silver Level
This is a hand i just played with a board that looked good for a c/r. thought about this thread while in game.
pokerstars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
Button ($7.32)
SB ($12.71)
BB ($8.51)
UTG ($6.90)
Hero (MP) ($5.07)
CO ($7.54)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J
, 10
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.37) 9
, 9
, 3
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero raises to $0.94, 1 fold
Total pot: $1.07 | Rake: $0.04
Results below:
And just to prove the example from above i just also played this hand.
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
Button ($2.22)
SB ($1.29)
BB ($9.28)
UTG ($7.91)
Hero (MP) ($5.55)
CO ($2.29)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
, J
UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.37, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.27
Flop: ($0.81) 4
, A
, 6
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold
Total pot: $0.81 | Rake: $0.03
Results below:
in this hand the UTG +1 3bet allowed me to take down this A high flop with only .30 cents. Which is why i mentioned earlier that i dont think that 50% or 35% bets have THAT huge of a difference in the result.
pokerstars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
Button ($7.32)
SB ($12.71)
BB ($8.51)
UTG ($6.90)
Hero (MP) ($5.07)
CO ($7.54)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.37) 9
Hero checks, CO bets $0.35, Hero raises to $0.94, 1 fold
Total pot: $1.07 | Rake: $0.04
Results below:
Hero didn't show J
, 10
.
And just to prove the example from above i just also played this hand.
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
Button ($2.22)
SB ($1.29)
BB ($9.28)
UTG ($7.91)
Hero (MP) ($5.55)
CO ($2.29)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
UTG raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.37, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.27
Flop: ($0.81) 4
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold
Total pot: $0.81 | Rake: $0.03
Results below:
Hero didn't show 9
, J
.
in this hand the UTG +1 3bet allowed me to take down this A high flop with only .30 cents. Which is why i mentioned earlier that i dont think that 50% or 35% bets have THAT huge of a difference in the result.
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duggs
Killing me softly
Silver Level
flushs draws, some combo draws, prob folding gutters, KQ, thing is that between them i don't think we get called by a range we beat, and we aren't going to retain what equity we have very well on future streets, much rather check and let them cap their ranges by checking back and bet turn/river
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Nope. No reads except for stack size. At regular tables you have table stats - they last until the player gets up.
Hmm. Not so sure about all of it, but a lot of that's really good stuff, and in line with what I was thinking. Thanks for taking the time and energy to write it out, vin
The point about 3betting UTG opens makes a lot of sense, and is something I like to do as well. The main consideration there though is so many people behind you. People cold-call more 3bets than you might think, and when there are still 4 left to act... well. With a bigger sample I can start to see whether that's a viable option with pure airballs or not.
Logan2
Legend
Silver Level
We are talking about 6max right? so there is no utg+1 or +2, there is only MP or Co after UTG, so maybe in theory 3b wider utg looks nice because he could think we are strong, etc, the true is that UTG is villain stronger range, so if he is going to make a stand is there no?, also, are we talking 3b regs or unknowns?, a unknown will not think you 3b strong, he just look his strong range and someone on MP/CO 3b him so by standard he could think you 3b wide because have position on him no?., a reg maybe do think you are strong but is going to depends on stats or history if no stats, and will not take much time to regs figure 3b wide, after all are regs because will face them frecuently.
And like mentioned not even closing action which make things even trickier.
And like mentioned not even closing action which make things even trickier.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Not that last. There are no usernames. Every player has a # when they sit down at a table. On regular tables you can take notes that last until a player gets up from the table. But in zone you're at a new table for every hand, so no notes. 100% unknowns.
In other news, tilt has had me up and down like a roller coaster ever since getting back on Bovada. I won't go into a ton of detail about why and stuff, but I'm committing to taking a short break. Every time I've tried to take a break with poker I've just wanted to grind so I'm not trying for a week+. I'm committing to 2 days and seeing how it goes.
I can't make myself not think about poker, but I am going to NOT:
- Play poker
- Read poker books
- Watch poker vids
- Study poker
- Post about poker
2 entire days. And to hopefully help hold me to this, if anyone sees me post anywhere on CC between this post (call it 11:35pm EST on the 7th of August) and 9am EST on Sunday, the first person to see it and call it to my attention will be shipped $25 via paypal.
Cheers guys. Thanks for your support and enthusiasm in all things. I'll see you all Sunday. Cause let's be honest. I probably won't last longer than that.
'Til next time.
In other news, tilt has had me up and down like a roller coaster ever since getting back on Bovada. I won't go into a ton of detail about why and stuff, but I'm committing to taking a short break. Every time I've tried to take a break with poker I've just wanted to grind so I'm not trying for a week+. I'm committing to 2 days and seeing how it goes.
I can't make myself not think about poker, but I am going to NOT:
- Play poker
- Read poker books
- Watch poker vids
- Study poker
- Post about poker
2 entire days. And to hopefully help hold me to this, if anyone sees me post anywhere on CC between this post (call it 11:35pm EST on the 7th of August) and 9am EST on Sunday, the first person to see it and call it to my attention will be shipped $25 via paypal.
Cheers guys. Thanks for your support and enthusiasm in all things. I'll see you all Sunday. Cause let's be honest. I probably won't last longer than that.
'Til next time.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Well, my poker hiatus has ended with some bad news: my grandfather passed away early this morning.
My parents didn't quite make it to him before he passed, which was the most sad part for me. I wish they could have made it, but they were stopped for the night a couple hours' drive away, and he died around 6:30am. My dad's sister made it there yesterday, so there was someone close with him for his last day.
My personal beliefs have changed a lot over the past few years, but I know that my grandfather lived a full, and meaningful life. Death is just the natural next step, and while I'm still in a little bit of shock, I feel okay. Not good, but okay.
I'll know when the funeral is by tonight, and depending on timing I'll either be flying out tomorrow or Thursday.
My parents didn't quite make it to him before he passed, which was the most sad part for me. I wish they could have made it, but they were stopped for the night a couple hours' drive away, and he died around 6:30am. My dad's sister made it there yesterday, so there was someone close with him for his last day.
My personal beliefs have changed a lot over the past few years, but I know that my grandfather lived a full, and meaningful life. Death is just the natural next step, and while I'm still in a little bit of shock, I feel okay. Not good, but okay.
I'll know when the funeral is by tonight, and depending on timing I'll either be flying out tomorrow or Thursday.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Thanks Sand.
Back to poker. Feels like it's been way longer than it has. Anyway finally got all my hands downloaded, and feeling a little better about not crushing yet, given most of my big hands seems to look like this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 67.12 BB (VPIP: 28.84, PFR: 5.73, 3Bet Preflop: 4.13, Hands: 5,200)
UTG: 62.64 BB (VPIP: 24.59, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 5,144)
MP: 68.6 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 14.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 5,190)
CO: 99.2 BB (VPIP: 27.97, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.18, Hands: 5,187)
Hero (BTN): 100.4 BB
SB: 174.92 BB (VPIP: 33.94, PFR: 9.41, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 5,142)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: Q:diamond:
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold
Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) K:club: Q:heart: A:club:
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8 BB, SB raises to 23 BB, fold, Hero calls 15 BB
Turn: (56 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
SB bets 31 BB, Hero raises to 74.4 BB and is all-in, SB calls 43.4 BB
River: (204.8 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
Hero shows A:spade: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 60%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
SB shows T:spade: J:spade: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 40%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
BB mucks 3:spade: 6:heart: (High Card, Ace)
UTG mucks 8:club: T:heart: (High Card, Ace)
MP mucks 7:club: 7:diamond: (One Pair, Sevens)
CO mucks 7:heart: J:diamond: (High Card, Ace)
SB wins 196.8 BB
Or this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 73.52 BB (VPIP: 33.82, PFR: 9.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 6,115)
BB: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 28.50, PFR: 5.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.05, Hands: 6,176)
UTG: 167.96 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.42, Hands: 6,111)
Hero (MP): 238.04 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.75, PFR: 14.92, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 6,151)
BTN: 39.8 BB (VPIP: 29.98, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.68, Hands: 6,145)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 7:diamond:
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) T:club: 7:club: A:spade:
Hero bets 9.4 BB, CO raises to 23.56 BB, Hero raises to 157.68 BB, CO calls 73.44 BB and is all-in
Turn: (201.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
River: (201.4 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero shows A:diamond: 7:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 32%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows T:diamond: T:heart: (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 68%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
SB mucks 6:spade: 3:club: (Flush, Ten High)
BB mucks 5:spade: 6:heart: (One Pair, Sixes)
UTG mucks K:club: 8:heart: (Flush, King High)
BTN mucks 2:club: 7:spade: (Flush, Ten High)
CO wins 193.4 BB
Or this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 30.04, PFR: 15.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.70, Hands: 6,549)
Hero (SB): 92.8 BB
BB: 61.8 BB (VPIP: 28.34, PFR: 5.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.91, Hands: 6,594)
UTG: 98.92 BB (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 14.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.46, Hands: 6,543)
MP: 174 BB (VPIP: 26.18, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 6,593)
CO: 111.96 BB (VPIP: 27.37, PFR: 14.74, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 6,561)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: J:spade:
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold
Flop: (7.8 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond: 9:club: A:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.88 BB, Hero calls 3.88 BB
Turn: (15.56 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.76 BB, Hero calls 8.76 BB
River: (33.08 BB, 2 players) J:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 16.52 BB, Hero raises to 76.76 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 60.24 BB
Hero shows A:spade: J:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 47%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 9:heart: 9:spade: (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 53%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks 8:diamond: 2:spade: (One Pair, Twos)
UTG mucks 3:spade: J:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks)
MP mucks 2:club: 3:club: (Flush, Queen High)
CO mucks 2:heart: 5:diamond: (One Pair, Twos)
BTN wins 178.6 BB
Orrrrrr this:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (CO): 97 BB
BTN: 142.9 BB (VPIP: 30.07, PFR: 15.37, 3Bet Preflop: 4.82, Hands: 6,778)
SB: 35.1 BB (VPIP: 33.56, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 4.59, Hands: 6,768)
BB: 47.5 BB (VPIP: 28.27, PFR: 5.21, 3Bet Preflop: 3.86, Hands: 6,832)
UTG: 187.8 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 14.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.64, Hands: 6,778)
MP: 120.74 BB (VPIP: 26.26, PFR: 14.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 6,831)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 8:diamond:
UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BB checks
Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 7:diamond: Q:heart: 5:diamond:
BB bets 4.5 BB, UTG calls 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, BB raises to 46.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 42 BB, Hero raises to 96 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 49.5 BB
Turn: (242 BB, 3 players) 8:club:
River: (242 BB, 3 players) T:club:
Hero shows 6:diamond: 8:diamond: (One Pair, Eights)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 42%, Flop 49%, Turn 36%)
Side Pot#1 [99 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 49%, Turn 36%)
BB shows Q:club: 3:diamond: (One Pair, Queens)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 21%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows Q:spade: 7:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 50%, Turn 64%)
Side Pot#1 [99 BB]: (Pre 59%, Flop 51%, Turn 64%)
BTN mucks 3:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Tens)
SB mucks 8:spade: 2:heart: (One Pair, Eights)
MP mucks 2:spade: 7:heart: (One Pair, Sevens)
UTG wins 236 BB
Back to poker. Feels like it's been way longer than it has. Anyway finally got all my hands downloaded, and feeling a little better about not crushing yet, given most of my big hands seems to look like this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 67.12 BB (VPIP: 28.84, PFR: 5.73, 3Bet Preflop: 4.13, Hands: 5,200)
UTG: 62.64 BB (VPIP: 24.59, PFR: 13.98, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 5,144)
MP: 68.6 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 14.78, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 5,190)
CO: 99.2 BB (VPIP: 27.97, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.18, Hands: 5,187)
Hero (BTN): 100.4 BB
SB: 174.92 BB (VPIP: 33.94, PFR: 9.41, 3Bet Preflop: 4.80, Hands: 5,142)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: Q:diamond:
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold
Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) K:club: Q:heart: A:club:
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 8 BB, SB raises to 23 BB, fold, Hero calls 15 BB
Turn: (56 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
SB bets 31 BB, Hero raises to 74.4 BB and is all-in, SB calls 43.4 BB
River: (204.8 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:
Hero shows A:spade: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 60%, Flop 18%, Turn 9%)
SB shows T:spade: J:spade: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 40%, Flop 82%, Turn 91%)
BB mucks 3:spade: 6:heart: (High Card, Ace)
UTG mucks 8:club: T:heart: (High Card, Ace)
MP mucks 7:club: 7:diamond: (One Pair, Sevens)
CO mucks 7:heart: J:diamond: (High Card, Ace)
SB wins 196.8 BB
Or this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 73.52 BB (VPIP: 33.82, PFR: 9.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.71, Hands: 6,115)
BB: 102.8 BB (VPIP: 28.50, PFR: 5.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.05, Hands: 6,176)
UTG: 167.96 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.42, Hands: 6,111)
Hero (MP): 238.04 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.75, PFR: 14.92, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 6,151)
BTN: 39.8 BB (VPIP: 29.98, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 4.68, Hands: 6,145)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:diamond: 7:diamond:
fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold
Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) T:club: 7:club: A:spade:
Hero bets 9.4 BB, CO raises to 23.56 BB, Hero raises to 157.68 BB, CO calls 73.44 BB and is all-in
Turn: (201.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
River: (201.4 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero shows A:diamond: 7:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 32%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
CO shows T:diamond: T:heart: (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 68%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
SB mucks 6:spade: 3:club: (Flush, Ten High)
BB mucks 5:spade: 6:heart: (One Pair, Sixes)
UTG mucks K:club: 8:heart: (Flush, King High)
BTN mucks 2:club: 7:spade: (Flush, Ten High)
CO wins 193.4 BB
Or this:
PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 99.6 BB (VPIP: 30.04, PFR: 15.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.70, Hands: 6,549)
Hero (SB): 92.8 BB
BB: 61.8 BB (VPIP: 28.34, PFR: 5.31, 3Bet Preflop: 3.91, Hands: 6,594)
UTG: 98.92 BB (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 14.38, 3Bet Preflop: 4.46, Hands: 6,543)
MP: 174 BB (VPIP: 26.18, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 6,593)
CO: 111.96 BB (VPIP: 27.37, PFR: 14.74, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 6,561)
Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:spade: J:spade:
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3.4 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold
Flop: (7.8 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond: 9:club: A:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.88 BB, Hero calls 3.88 BB
Turn: (15.56 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.76 BB, Hero calls 8.76 BB
River: (33.08 BB, 2 players) J:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 16.52 BB, Hero raises to 76.76 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 60.24 BB
Hero shows A:spade: J:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 47%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 9:heart: 9:spade: (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 53%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks 8:diamond: 2:spade: (One Pair, Twos)
UTG mucks 3:spade: J:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks)
MP mucks 2:club: 3:club: (Flush, Queen High)
CO mucks 2:heart: 5:diamond: (One Pair, Twos)
BTN wins 178.6 BB
Orrrrrr this:
PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (CO): 97 BB
BTN: 142.9 BB (VPIP: 30.07, PFR: 15.37, 3Bet Preflop: 4.82, Hands: 6,778)
SB: 35.1 BB (VPIP: 33.56, PFR: 9.57, 3Bet Preflop: 4.59, Hands: 6,768)
BB: 47.5 BB (VPIP: 28.27, PFR: 5.21, 3Bet Preflop: 3.86, Hands: 6,832)
UTG: 187.8 BB (VPIP: 24.61, PFR: 14.28, 3Bet Preflop: 4.64, Hands: 6,778)
MP: 120.74 BB (VPIP: 26.26, PFR: 14.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.30, Hands: 6,831)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:diamond: 8:diamond:
UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, fold, BB checks
Flop: (3.5 BB, 3 players) 7:diamond: Q:heart: 5:diamond:
BB bets 4.5 BB, UTG calls 4.5 BB, Hero raises to 14 BB, BB raises to 46.5 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 42 BB, Hero raises to 96 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 49.5 BB
Turn: (242 BB, 3 players) 8:club:
River: (242 BB, 3 players) T:club:
Hero shows 6:diamond: 8:diamond: (One Pair, Eights)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 42%, Flop 49%, Turn 36%)
Side Pot#1 [99 BB]: (Pre 41%, Flop 49%, Turn 36%)
BB shows Q:club: 3:diamond: (One Pair, Queens)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 21%, Flop 1%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows Q:spade: 7:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Sevens)
Main Pot [143 BB]: (Pre 38%, Flop 50%, Turn 64%)
Side Pot#1 [99 BB]: (Pre 59%, Flop 51%, Turn 64%)
BTN mucks 3:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Tens)
SB mucks 8:spade: 2:heart: (One Pair, Eights)
MP mucks 2:spade: 7:heart: (One Pair, Sevens)
UTG wins 236 BB
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
I didn't post some that I made mistakes in, obv, but still think variance was hammering me pretty hard. Also many of my hands involve villains spazzing out or just stacking off ridiculously wide.
Been grinding a few hours today and thanks to some bad beats (and a few marginal stack offs where I ran into worst possible hand in villain's range), I'm down to about $75 in my account. I'm debating re-depositing since I'm just really not in the mood to grind through stakes 20x and 40x lower than my normal stakes. But I hate depositing passionately... So dilemma.
Been grinding a few hours today and thanks to some bad beats (and a few marginal stack offs where I ran into worst possible hand in villain's range), I'm down to about $75 in my account. I'm debating re-depositing since I'm just really not in the mood to grind through stakes 20x and 40x lower than my normal stakes. But I hate depositing passionately... So dilemma.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
Oh and another frustrating notice: After about 7k hands vs. each position, it doesn't seem like I can do anything fun with zero-equity ranges... People are folding about 30-35% to x/r, about 40% to raises, and only about 40-50% to preflop 3bets. I should be able to find more spots with it than I could in non-anon poker. But there won't really be any spots where I can take my whole range pre and exploit villain.
Matt Vaughan
King of Moody Rants
Bronze Level
I made a thin value raise with AJ. I was x/f river if I didn't spike two pair, but I'm suddenly ahead of AK in addition to AT. Might be too thin to raise, but we're def not folding.
Just got into a sickening hand. UTG opens, I flat in the SB with JJ. Flop QT4 two tone, it goes check check. Turn J, we pot it, he tank raises. We get 3:1 and call to try to catch a boat vs. his AK ldo. We brick and x/f on a 9 river. PUKE.
Jillychemung
Stacks & Stacks
Loyaler
Condolences. Take some time to grieve, reminisce and commemorate your grandfather.