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Bizarre game that Jones should have been off and Gerrards heat map was like this


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Stevie G's last home game. Phenomenal player. Irreplaceable.
 
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Rodgers - what are the opinions? Personally I think he is tactically naive at best - we are incapable of defending a lead - same last year and this year. WE will never do anything unless we learn to defend as a team.
 
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Rodgers - what are the opinions? Personally I think he is tactically naive at best - we are incapable of defending a lead - same last year and this year. WE will never do anything unless we learn to defend as a team.

So true. :(
I'm glad that Gerrard is coming over to the west coast so I can see him play in person a couple of times. :)
 
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I think Rodgers handled the Gerrard situation terribly and was naive in signing Lambert and Balotelli to replace Suarez. Generally speaking though Liverpool's defence has actually improved this season and Crystal Palace are just very under-rated and probably the best counter-attacking team in the league. Overall, not being able to cope with Sturridge's injury and extra European games are what cost Rodgers a top 4 finish this season.
 
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Liverpool lost a lot of pace up front with Suarez going & with Sturridge always injured, Ballotelli may have looked cheap at £16m but now looks expensive at £6m.

Tey have needed a settled back 4 for a couple of years (why did they let Agger go?) and a midfield that can pass quickly and defend solidly.

Often on Saturday (as many times i have seen them) there was just Sterling and maybe one other in the oppos half when they tried to move forward from defence.
As well as moving the ball way too slowly they had no outlet upfront and no idea on how to get there.


There is a Chuckle brothers passing disease that has enter the top teams of English football, a forever to you-to me passing that goes no where endlessly, but does make the possesion stat look good.
 
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Rodgers - what are the opinions? Personally I think he is tactically naive at best - we are incapable of defending a lead - same last year and this year. WE will never do anything unless we learn to defend as a team.

Rodgers is a good, but flawed manager. He creates interesting solutions to his problems, goes on good runs and then instantly abandons it all when things go wrong. He also clearly loves the smell of his own farts

It would be interesting to know just how much influence he has on transfers because Liverpool's recent record in that department is absolutely woeful

I think he deserves more time. In losing Suarez and Sturridge he's lost, what? 60 goals? To lose a player of Suarez's calibre in particular and still being not that far off a Champions League place isn't terrible.

And yes I know I've just referred to money/transfers but players like Suarez are of the level where you can't just go out and buy three or four players and it's all fine and dandy (see when Spurs lost Bale)

Liverpool lost a lot of pace up front with Suarez going & with Sturridge always injured, Ballotelli may have looked cheap at £16m but now looks expensive at £6m.

Tey have needed a settled back 4 for a couple of years (why did they let Agger go?) and a midfield that can pass quickly and defend solidly.

Spot on about Balotelli. I personally thought it was an inspired signing at that price, a talented player but one who (a) has not really fit any of the systems Rodgers has tried, (b) clearly has 'issues' when it comes to his mentality. I don't think Rodgers is the type of manager he'll ever excel under

And if I remember correctly Pool weren't keen to let Agger go, Agger wanted to back to norway to his old club. I may be wrong on that though

Often on Saturday (as many times i have seen them) there was just Sterling and maybe one other in the oppos half when they tried to move forward from defence.
As well as moving the ball way too slowly they had no outlet upfront and no idea on how to get there.

Yeah they've had no real clarity to their play all season, kind of a much of muchness.

I think there is a lot to like about Liverpool. I like Emre Can although he's been a bit inconsistent, Mignolet has improved a lot the last few months, Henderson is finally fulfilling his potential and the obvious (if he stays) in Sterling and Coutinho.

All that said, if - and it's a big if - someone like Klopp or Ancelotti shows an interest in the job, I'd be seriously considering shifting Rodgers out
 
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I think Rodgers handled the Gerrard situation terribly and was naive in signing Lambert and Balotelli to replace Suarez. Generally speaking though Liverpool's defence has actually improved this season and Crystal Palace are just very under-rated and probably the best counter-attacking team in the league. Overall, not being able to cope with Sturridge's injury and extra European games are what cost Rodgers a top 4 finish this season.


It wasn't naive to sign Lambert and Balotelli, it was ****ing stupid. Rodgers is absolutely clueless and speaks so much shite it's unreal. Liverpool will continue to fade off.
 
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"England Under-21s were right to leave out key men for the European Championship, says the FA's director of elite development." :laugh:

Raheem Sterling
Ross Barkley
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
Jack Wilshere
Phil Jones
Eric Dier, etc.

not even considered for the squad.

Instead they preferred relatively unknown players such as Gibson, Garbutt, Chalobah, Forster-Caskey, Loftus-Cheek, and Lingard in the starting line-up.

They went out in the group stage after losing 3-1 to Italy, who also got knocked out of the competition...

Despite all of this, the "manager" Gareth Southgate stands by the decision as well and wants to remain in his position. :rolleyes:
 
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Sterling to City for 49 million pounds. What is he really worth?
 
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10-15 imo This was always going to happen with the new home grown player quotas.

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Sterling to City for 49 million pounds. What is he really worth?

Would that be for potential or on last seasons performances?

Struggle to see half that price being right
 
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I don't think he is a good enough finisher for that money - about 1 goal in 6.

I also think he's too light and too easily pushed off the ball.
 
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I don't think he is a good enough finisher for that money - about 1 goal in 6.

I also think he's too light and too easily pushed off the ball.

Sadly i dont think many need pushing too hard these days :(
 
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English premium. I think he'll do well there though
 
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Here we go then - new season is about here!

I'm thinking Arsenal for some crazy reason. Chelsea don't score enough. United's defence looks iffy. City can score goals but again I think their defence is dodgy.
 
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Chelsea is sure running smooth this first half of the season :p
 
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What odds on him going to ManU before the end of the season? I think he'd do very well there....unfortunately.
 
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What odds on him going to ManU before the end of the season? I think he'd do very well there....unfortunately.

Thought he would have done well there a couple of years ago - but after his antics at Chelski & Real Madrid before shows him to be a little out of control at times, would Man U want that?

As for tactics, boring football, no goals, global players under performing and unsure of what to do - Man Utd or Chelski? any difference?
 
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