Rob Hobson
Legend
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I agree with you!
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Nokaut men 1997
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Silver Level
How is it possible that Russian tennis players play ATP tournaments, win big cash prizes, and Russia and Putin profit by collecting large amounts of taxes on the prizes of Russian tennis players.
What are the leading people of ATP thinking about?
What are the leading people of ATP thinking about?
ScooperNova
Hair in a Biscuit
Loyaler
I'm looking for the part where I (checks notes) "defended terrorists and criminals" but I can't seem to find it. Where are you getting your "recent data"? The only other person I saw make a claim like this was getting data from Russian propaganda sources because it fit the point they thought they were proving and it was quite hilarious. Perhaps Russia is allowing foreign third parties to poll their citizens concerning their thoughts on the war and I am unaware of it.
ScooperNova
Hair in a Biscuit
Loyaler
It's actually pennies compared to the billions of dollars in oil EU countries have bought from Russia since the war has started. But hey, those tennis prize pennies and big mac taxes were really adding up.
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Marcos1315
Rock Star
Silver Level
But sanctions, bans, etc. they are because of the war. If it were due to oppression, many countries (including Russia) would have faced these things before.
As for chemical weapons, the US made use of them in Vietnam, for example.
To be clear: I am totally against the invasion and I think Putin is a dictator. I strongly disagree with Ukraine (for example, the president of Ukraine could have prevented this war, and one of his responsibilities is to protect his people. When he doesn't stop this war and make people die, I think it's his responsibility. I can't agree with this glamor that he's having to defend his country this way. How can that be a good defense if a lot of people are dying and leaving and the structure of the country is falling apart?), but I don't think Russia is right.
The point is that it is "cool" to attack Russia in any way possible. For example, a restaurant here in brazil stopped cooking Russian food. People are "playing for the fans" (this is an expression we use to describe a player who is doing something unnecessary, like sliding to save a ball that is out of bounds in football/soccer, just for the fans to celebrate his 'effort') .
I don't disagree with many things done, I just think it's biased. It should have been done with other countries as well.
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Marcos1315
Rock Star
Silver Level
I hate that "oh, but he's Jewish".
There is a documentary on Netflix about Otto Skorzeny (Nazi, SS, rescued Mussolini).
He always believed in Nazi principles, and the Mossad used him to defend Israel.
At first it seems crazy to think that this could happen, but it does.
US and Soviet Union were allied in WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny#Alleged_recruitment_by_Mossad
https://forward.com/news/336943/ht/
Tredford
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Russia has blocked or cause to be terminated a lot of Ukrainian "sporting" activities.
Until the Ukraines can play online poker again, Russian players should be banned.
Until the Ukraines can play online poker again, Russian players should be banned.
peaceofcoke
Visionary
Bronze Level
Well, there is no legal basis for FIFA or IOC to ban Russia and Belarus from international sports. In their charter, both organizations proclaim to be unpolitical, the said charter is signed by all members of not only both organizations but also members of FIBA, FIVB, etc.
Russia and Belarus will point directly to that charter, arguing that they have no influence over the politics of their countries, and politicians do not interfere in their countries' sporting matters, as imposed by the very same charter of these organizations.
They will also argue that countries like Kuwait, Eritrea, Malaysia were suspended because of politicians' influence on FA in their countries.
The TAS/CAS will find no legal ground for suspending Russia and Russian clubs by FIFA and UEFA because the Russian FA abides by the FIFA charter, whilst FIFA ignores it completely for P.R stunts.
FIFA might argue about human rights and how Russia violates H.R. in Ukraine, Russians will backfire by stating Guantanamo, Uighurs, Gilet Jaune, Inuit people, U.A.E, and Saudi Arabia in Yemen, Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict, Israeli/Palestinian conflict, etc. but more importantly how Paedophilia is so prevalent in many an FA across the globe, especially in Gabon, Haiti, france, Mongolia, etc. and how FIFA keeps ignoring them or tries to make these cases disappear. Not only that, but also match-fixing in Eastern Europe, South America, Africa, Asia and how recently FIFA is unable to protect its employees, e.g. in Cyprus or mexico where Mafia and Cartels control, extort, batter, and assault, etc.
Not only that but also human trafficking and children traficking from African countries into South East Asia, especially to Thailand to play football there.
FIFA has just shot itself in the foot, banning Russia, the decision will be turned in favor of Russia and Russian clubs, and no wonder if we see Zenit v RB in the next week
If you want to argue about IOC suspending Russian athletes, well that was a case of doping, which is tightly related to sports
Russia and Belarus will point directly to that charter, arguing that they have no influence over the politics of their countries, and politicians do not interfere in their countries' sporting matters, as imposed by the very same charter of these organizations.
They will also argue that countries like Kuwait, Eritrea, Malaysia were suspended because of politicians' influence on FA in their countries.
The TAS/CAS will find no legal ground for suspending Russia and Russian clubs by FIFA and UEFA because the Russian FA abides by the FIFA charter, whilst FIFA ignores it completely for P.R stunts.
FIFA might argue about human rights and how Russia violates H.R. in Ukraine, Russians will backfire by stating Guantanamo, Uighurs, Gilet Jaune, Inuit people, U.A.E, and Saudi Arabia in Yemen, Armenia/Azerbaijan conflict, Israeli/Palestinian conflict, etc. but more importantly how Paedophilia is so prevalent in many an FA across the globe, especially in Gabon, Haiti, france, Mongolia, etc. and how FIFA keeps ignoring them or tries to make these cases disappear. Not only that, but also match-fixing in Eastern Europe, South America, Africa, Asia and how recently FIFA is unable to protect its employees, e.g. in Cyprus or mexico where Mafia and Cartels control, extort, batter, and assault, etc.
Not only that but also human trafficking and children traficking from African countries into South East Asia, especially to Thailand to play football there.
FIFA has just shot itself in the foot, banning Russia, the decision will be turned in favor of Russia and Russian clubs, and no wonder if we see Zenit v RB in the next week
If you want to argue about IOC suspending Russian athletes, well that was a case of doping, which is tightly related to sports
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peaceofcoke
Visionary
Bronze Level
-I know of many countries around the world, peaceful countries until France, the USA, intervened and bombed them. It is wrong on both sides, Russians are wrong, Americans and Europeans too.
-Racism, xenophobia, and punishing politicians is too prevalent not only in Russia but all over the world, if you don't hear about it in mainstream media, it doesn't mean it isn't there. When you are in America, just say I am communist, not even that, just say I am socialist. As when you are in France, wear a yellow vest, or try to book a ticket to see some comedians, or go to Soral's political rally, you can't. The icing on the cake, if you are a holocaust denier you will go to prison, and there are many more subjects that you cannot talk about, freedom of speech is tightly tied with what the media feeds you.
-I know of a country that has actually used Nukes, what about you?
yetbam
Rock Star
Silver Level
severe penalties
from my point of view it seems to me that not only Russia should be penalized with the exclusion of its athletes from sports, let us remember that for a conflict to exist there must always be two parties and from that context it seems to me that the same decisions are not being made With Ukraine, we must remember that they are also partly to blame and that should be taken into consideration when applying sanctions as well as for the countries that have been involved as instigators of the conflict.
from my point of view it seems to me that not only Russia should be penalized with the exclusion of its athletes from sports, let us remember that for a conflict to exist there must always be two parties and from that context it seems to me that the same decisions are not being made With Ukraine, we must remember that they are also partly to blame and that should be taken into consideration when applying sanctions as well as for the countries that have been involved as instigators of the conflict.
hubcio96
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Why do people have to pay for their government action? I don't think banning Russian athletes is right, but I do understand the need for pressure to change the government. The only change of regime in Russia happened from internal revolutions. I don't think there is foreign country or influence that was successful in abolishing and changing Russian Government. It can only be done within, so putting pressure on the Country as a whole might do the trick.
emejota23
Rock Star
Silver Level
brother you are absolutely right, I really don't understand why fifa declines russia in the world cup, and also in the olympic games, and pokerstars and other poker platforms, also russian players, they don't have to pay righteous for sinners.
Risto234
põrandaalune pokkerimängija
Loyaler
Until ukrainian athles are unable to compete in whatever sporting event all these sanctions in sports world for russians are more than justified ...
hubcio96
Rock Star
Bronze Level
That is actually one of the simplest, cleanest, and "make sense" justification I've heard. Well done