If you seriously think Guida is even on the same level as poirier then you need your head examined. Guida is/was at best a borderline top ten ranked fighter. Poirier was a genuine contender and would probably have faced Mendes or Edgar if he had beaten McGregor. Guida would only have gotten near Aldo in his dreams.
So like I said ... you can't.
This is embarrassingly stupid. There is/was very few Champions in major MMA promotions that would even be physically ABLE to move DOWN in weight class so there is barely even precedent there for your outlandish statements.
I didn't say champions alone. Do you not actually read what I put. But to address what you said ... Edgar ... Faber ... Diego.
Faber was the Featherweight champion in WEC moved down in weight and was successful.
Edgar was the LW champion dropped down in weight and fought for a FW belt twice.
Diego Sanchez started as a middleweight and won the TUF. He dropped all the way down to LW eventually and fought for the LW title.
Would you think the likes of Mighty Mouse/Dominick Cruz/Jon Jones would not be deserving of title shots if they moved up?
To even compare Conor to these guys is laughable.
Might Mouse - 8 title defenses, Clearly the best in his division
Dominick Cruz - is on a what 14 (?) fight win streak and hasn't lost in close to 10 years. The best in his division.
Jon Jones - 8 consecutive title defenses and lost his belt only because he was stripped of it. His only loss has come the way of DQ. The best in his division.
Conor - 0 title defenses. May or may not be the best in his division.
You are being foolish to even compare Conor to these guys.
There are many examples, even recently in the UFC alone of fighters enjoying a lot of success when they move up in weight. Far more than the number of examples of fighters going down. Fighters moving down just doesn't happen very often.
Again I didn't say there weren't. If you are a person that is successful at a higher weight class and move down than there is a greater likelihood of you having success in the lighter weight class then vise-versa.
Size matters and if you can beat the bigger guys in a higher weight class it is likely you can beat the smaller guys in the lower one.
No I'm not asking if you competed. I'm just curious because its quite evident you have very little understanding of how difficult it really is for a fighter to make weight in his own weight class if you think he can just decide to move DOWN in weight class.
Again I never said anything you are implying here. I never said a fighter can just decide to move down. I know how hard it is to cut weight.
Very few fighters especially at that level can make that kind of a move down in weight. At that stage of their careers they have been cutting weight a long time and have almost without exception found their fighting weight and also know their cutting limits.
I don't completely disagree ( there are instances like I have already pointed out ) but it doesn't disprove what I said. If you are contender in a higher weight and move down .. it is likely you will be a contender in the lower weight as well. In general if you can beat bigger stronger guys .. you also can beat the smaller ones.
Frankie Edgar was an exception only because he was a very very small LW.
He wasn't an exception I pointed out others.
Are you seriously still saying he only earned the title shot after he beat Siver? Everyone knows he earned it when he beat Poirier. Siver was literally just a fight he took to stay active. You're just being awkward for the sake of it now because you cant admit you are wrong.
I'm not wrong. If Conor lost to Siver he would not of got a title shot. You made a point to say he earned using Siver top 10 ranking as one of your reasons. I am pointing out to you that Siver was actually ranked around 14th but was bumped to 10th once the Conor fight was announced.
What it looks like you are saying atm is his win over Poirier is enough to grant him his title shot. If that is the case .. every one who has ever beat a top 10 earned a shot according to you.
FW champ McGregor was moving up to fight the LW champion RDA. RDA pulled out injured. McGregor took two fights at WW to protect his LW title shot. RDA lost belt. Conor fought Eddie Alvarez for LW belt. Conor won LW belt. Conor now dual weight world champion. Now do you understand?
Conor hasn't fought at LW for three consecutive fights. You can't be champion of a division unless you actually fight in that division.
Conor fought a win one lose one LW at WW and went 1-1. The fights were at WW to protect his image. He was giving the LW shot for 1 reason only. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
We witnessed the "FW Champion" face the LW champion. Both had 0 title defenses. The fight only happened because of money reasons not because Conor earned it or the fans wanted to see two dominate champions face each other. Neither were dominate champions.
Now do you understand ?
And so what if its a money grab? You do understand the UFC needs to make money to survive right? Its basic economics. Conor used his savvy any sense to elevate himself above all the other contenders and then proved that he has what it takes to annihilate two champions in 2 weight classes. He proved he deserves both titles by the manner in which he won them. Almost every other fighter in the sport now is trying to emulate his persona because they realise they need to do more than fight to get themselves noticed.
I never faulted Conor for any of this. Good for him. He got the wins when it counted. He demands things and don't give in until he gets them. Or so it seems from this fans perspective.
I never once claimed the UFC didn't need or want to make money. But at what point in time does it hurt what they been trying to build for all these years. They been trying to make MMA be seen as a sport for years. Trying to get laws turned around to allow MMA. Setting up fights just for the sake of making money instead of ones on merit seems like a step backwards to me.
