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[9betterluck9]

Thank you to my fellow Irishman McGregor!! He made me a nice chunk of change tonight with that early KO!!! I will ride that McGregor trin till he loses as far as betting goes! Hope everyone else had the success I did tonight!

 

[KLDUFF1987]

Just saw the KO from last nights fight, was it Pay per view if it was waste of money only for 13 seconds haha

 

[vali246]

griffin didn't touch silva when he got ko'd.

 

[OzExorcist]

I think Aldo will get his rematch. I don't think UFC will want to risk Conor losing to Edgar and potentially missing out on Aldo vs Conor 2.

My guess is that McGregor won't stay at featherweight long enough for there to be a rematch with Aldo. Frankie might get his shot before he leaves, but lightweight is calling McGregor IMO...

Disagree. I don't think Aldo is the reason for the sellouts and the PPV buys. Conner is driving that. His next opponent is almost irrelevant to the size of the payday.

^ this. This times one thousand. Aldo is terrible at selling fights on his own and his PPV numbers over the years bear that out. Selling this fight and this rivalry has been almost entirely on McGregor, and he'll do just fine doing massive numbers against whoever he fights next.

This is, of course, the complete opposite to the Rousey situation. Rousey gets her immediate rematch because she's the drawcard, not Holm.

 

[WVHillbilly]

BTW how thrilled was EA that they didn't have to sweat Aldo being on the cover of their new UFC game for more than a few seconds? I really wonder if Aldo had won if McGregor wouldn't have found his way on anyway.

 

[underdog140]

How do you sell Conner - Aldo 2?
"This time it probably lasts more than 13 seconds!"

The same way they sold the first one. Conor will do it.

If anyone deserves a rematch its a champion who has been undefeated for 10 years. It was a fast KO. It is easy to spin it as a "lucky" punch and this time it will be a war ect.

Although very impressive ... a fast KO like that isn't the same as getting your ass kicked for X amount of rounds and being finished or losing a lopsided decision. No-one would want to see a rematch if that was the case.

I would rather watch Edgar get his shot but Aldo without a doubt deserves a rematch.

 

[OzExorcist]

The same way they sold the first one. Conor will do it.

If anyone deserves a rematch its a champion who has been undefeated for 10 years. It was a fast KO. It is easy to spin it as a "lucky" punch and this time it will be a war ect.

Although very impressive ... a fast KO like that isn't the same as getting your ass kicked for X amount of rounds and being finished or losing a lopsided decision. No-one would want to see a rematch if that was the case.

I would rather watch Edgar get his shot but Aldo without a doubt deserves a rematch.

Maybe he deserves it, maybe he doesn't, but they call it the fight business for a reason. Aldo as champion just isn't that great for business, and McGregor no longer needs Aldo as his foil now that he's got the belt.

The UFC has proven time and again that title shots and rematches aren't necessarily about who's "deserving". Did Renan Barao "deserve" an immediate rematch after the lopsided beating Dillashaw put on him? LOL nope - but the rematch just happened to be the most sellable fight they could make, so they made it and when they eventually fought again, Barao proved he didn't deserve it.

Were there contenders who "deserved" a shot at Aldo before Conor? Damn right there were. But it would have been bad business to leave Conor on the shelf.

 

[KUN_AGUERO_KROOS]

The same way they sold the first one. Conor will do it.

If anyone deserves a rematch its a champion who has been undefeated for 10 years. It was a fast KO. It is easy to spin it as a "lucky" punch and this time it will be a war ect.

Although very impressive ... a fast KO like that isn't the same as getting your ass kicked for X amount of rounds and being finished or losing a lopsided decision. No-one would want to see a rematch if that was the case.

I would rather watch Edgar get his shot but Aldo without a doubt deserves a rematch.

Yep. I would say that Conor beating Aldo is like JDS beating Cain. It happened once, but not sure about twice. Gonna get a lot of hate for this, but I still think Aldo is a way better fighter than Conor like Cain is better than JDS. Still think that Aldo beats Conor 9/10 times.

At the end of the day, it is good for UFC that Conor is the champ. They've lost their big names: GSP, Jones, Anderson and Ronda. They need another star and Conor is perfect for the job.

Talking about the other fights, I scored a tie for Jacare x Romero. It wasn't as impressive as I imagined. Not sure if one of them deserves a title match.

D. Maia and his BJJ. Wow. Give him a bigger fight already.

What was Weidman thinking? Lol. What a weird kick attempt. And what about Herb Dean? Chris almost got murdered, Stop the fight!

 

[WVHillbilly]

Honestly I think who is most deserving of a shot at Rockhold is way more interesting. Not sure if Romero did enough against Jacare to get a chance before a Weidman rematch.

 

[WVHillbilly]

D. Maia and his BJJ. Wow. Give him a bigger fight already.

What was Weidman thinking? Lol. What a weird kick attempt. And what about Herb Dean? Chris almost got murdered, Stop the fight!

Agree 100% with both of these.

 

[underdog140]

Maybe he deserves it, maybe he doesn't, but they call it the fight business for a reason. Aldo as champion just isn't that great for business, and McGregor no longer needs Aldo as his foil now that he's got the belt.

The UFC has proven time and again that title shots and rematches aren't necessarily about who's "deserving". Did Renan Barao "deserve" an immediate rematch after the lopsided beating Dillashaw put on him? LOL nope - but the rematch just happened to be the most sellable fight they could make, so they made it and when they eventually fought again, Barao proved he didn't deserve it.

Were there contenders who "deserved" a shot at Aldo before Conor? Damn right there were. But it would have been bad business to leave Conor on the shelf.

Your examples of undeserved rematches only shows why Aldo is deserving of a rematch. An Aldo rematch is very high up on the list of big fights Conor can have at 145lbs. With maby one ahead of it .... Edgar. What other fight is bigger ? A chad rematch would have been up there but he is currently on a two fight losing streak.

Yep. I would say that Conor beating Aldo is like JDS beating Cain. It happened once, but not sure about twice. Gonna get a lot of hate for this, but I still think Aldo is a way better fighter than Conor like Cain is better than JDS. Still think that Aldo beats Conor 9/10 times.

At the end of the day, it is good for UFC that Conor is the champ. They've lost their big names: GSP, Jones, Anderson and Ronda. They need another star and Conor is perfect for the job.

Talking about the other fights, I scored a tie for Jacare x Romero. It wasn't as impressive as I imagined. Not sure if one of them deserves a title match.

D. Maia and his BJJ. Wow. Give him a bigger fight already.

What was Weidman thinking? Lol. What a weird kick attempt. And what about Herb Dean? Chris almost got murdered, Stop the fight!

I don't think Aldo wins 9/10 but other than that I agree with pretty much everything you said. Conor has that punchers chance. If Aldo can avoid getting KO. I think he wins just about everytime. How many times out of ten does he get KO... who knows.

 

[ScottishMatt]

griffin didn't touch silva when he got ko'd.

I never said it was the same

 

[mitozgd]

Ive been a fan of Conor since day 1 in UFC. I just saw enormous talent and something special about him. I am soooo happy to see him getting that belt.

 

[OzExorcist]

Honestly I think who is most deserving of a shot at Rockhold is way more interesting. Not sure if Romero did enough against Jacare to get a chance before a Weidman rematch.

Yeah that's an interesting question - I had Weidman winning round one, Rockhold winning round two, and Weidman winning round three... right up until the insane wheel kick.

You could certainly make a different that Rockhold-Weidman II had the potential to play out differently.

I don't think either Romero or Jacare covered themselves in glory, and both of stalled between rounds.

I'd be happy to see Rockhold-Romero, with Weidman-Jacare for the next shot, or Rockhold-Weidman II... but I guess the question then would be what you do with Romero and Jacare in the meantime? Those top four at middleweight are all very interesting, but the talent and intrigue drops off pretty quickly after that.

I mean hell, Tim Kennedy is still the #6 ranked guy in the division. He's 36, hasn't fought in over a year and hasn't showed any interest in getting back in the cage either AFAIK. Robert Whittaker isn't ready to be in the title discussion yet, Bisping prob never will be, Vitor is surely onto the "entertaining showcases" portion of his career. I guess my point is having anyone in the top four fight anyone else in the division wouldn't be much more than a squash match.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Yeah that's an interesting question - I had Weidman winning round one, Rockhold winning round two, and Weidman winning round three... right up until the insane wheel kick.

You could certainly make a different that Rockhold-Weidman II had the potential to play out differently.

I don't think either Romero or Jacare covered themselves in glory, and both of stalled between rounds.

I'd be happy to see Rockhold-Romero, with Weidman-Jacare for the next shot, or Rockhold-Weidman II... but I guess the question then would be what you do with Romero and Jacare in the meantime? Those top four at middleweight are all very interesting, but the talent and intrigue drops off pretty quickly after that.

I mean hell, Tim Kennedy is still the #6 ranked guy in the division. He's 36, hasn't fought in over a year and hasn't showed any interest in getting back in the cage either AFAIK. Robert Whittaker isn't ready to be in the title discussion yet, Bisping prob never will be, Vitor is surely onto the "entertaining showcases" portion of his career. I guess my point is having anyone in the top four fight anyone else in the division wouldn't be much more than a squash match.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch with Weidman unless his head needs some serious time to heal before Romero gets a chance.

 

[Poker Orifice]

And what about Herb Dean? Chris almost got murdered, Stop the fight!

and standing them up earlier while Luke was attempting a choke... seemed odd

 

[NKGB13]

Considering how quick was Aldo's fight, they could set the rematch for next week.

2 ways of seeing that fight. MacGregor was lucky to find Aldo's chin so early, or Aldo was crazy to open the guard so early on the fight.. so, In my opinion.. Aldo went all in with 55 UTG and McGregor found the A on the flop..

 

[underdog140]

and standing them up earlier while Luke was attempting a choke... seemed odd

Luke wanted it stood up. If you go back and watch. He was just holding him with the choke trying to stop the action. You can even see him give a nod to the ref just before it is stood up.

 

[WVHillbilly]

Luke wanted it stood up. If you go back and watch. He was just holding him with the choke trying to stop the action. You can even see him give a nod to the ref just before it is stood up.

Yeah, I saw that too. Just looked like he didn't think his choke attempt was going anywhere and he figured if Wiedman spun around he might get the worst of it. I tend to agree with him if that was indeed his thinking.

 

[DrazaFFT]

Ill have to watch wideman fight again, it was 6am here when it started and i watched the event from fight pass prelims so it was like 6 hours of fighting and no wonder why i cant totally remember the specifics of each round but really thought that wideman had a momentum late in rd 2 and in the rd 3 before the sloppy kick, not sure will there be a instant rematch or romero will get the shot but i simply dont see romero deserving a shot more than widwman deserves a rematch, but wee will see

And one more thing, maia was absolutely beast on the ground, i had hopes that he will win but couldnt imagine that he would be this dominant, he is a beast in 3 round fights and i think that he can handle everyone in 3rd fight, sadly i dont see him being able to pull same performance in 5 rounds and not gas like vs la flare...

 

[ScottishMatt]

^ Yeah Maia dominated like I've rarely ever seen before in the octagon. His ground game was phenomenal.

 

[Poker Orifice]

any picks for tonight?

 

[underdog140]

I got ...

JDS / Dos Anjos / Diaz in a parlay $25 to win $195

JDS / Dos Anjos parlay $21 to win $44


I was going to take JDS via KO but the odds didn't improve that much so I went with the safer bet. Also think Diaz is going to lose but with the odds and him looking like he is in the best shape of his life I put him in a parlay. He just might get the win.

 

[martymart48]

I bet 5$

Diaz/Overeem/Cerrone

I can win 130$

(Maybe Diaz Can Win)

 

[WVHillbilly]

I got Cerrone +170. Other than that I'm not betting tonight.