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Glad to see someone stepping up to fill the void.
 
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Our day is coming. Mitt will make it right. After all, he plays cribbage which is a kind of holdem but without cards. Isn't it? :D

Don't be so sure. The Mormon Church has always opposed gambling in every form, including government-sponsored lotteries. Utah is one of the last two states with no legalized gambling,

^ this, and there's the fact that Obama is an avid poker player. He loves the game and look how far that has gotten us--somewhere beyond nowhere.
 
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I wonder if this is what prohibition was like... :(
 
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DOJ not giving up on wire act. Just threw a bone to lotteries.

DOJ Stranglehold Still on Elie and Campos

Preet Bharara, United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, filed a supplemental memorandum which stated:

“Ultimately, however, the Opinion does not resolve this potential conflict and, in fact, does not analyze, or draw any conclusions about, the UIGEA, the Illegal Gambling Businesses Act of 1970 (“IGBA”), 18 U.S.C. § 1955, or any other statute at issue in the defendants’ motions. Rather, the Opinion determines that the proposed lotteries are lawful based on its conclusion about the scope of the Wire Act, and specifically its conclusion that the Wire Act applies only to sports betting and not lotteries . . . Given this conclusion, the Opinion did not find it “necessary to address to address the Wire Act’s interaction with UIGEA, or to analyze UIGEA in any other respect.”

Guess the DOJ didn't see how it could extort money from the states.

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All the freeroll work I did at minted is now in the toilet...

I'm glad though we still have some solid sites friendly to us Americans...
 
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All the freeroll work I did at minted is now in the toilet...

I'm glad though we still have some solid sites friendly to us Americans...

Minted has said all funds segregated, us players will be okay


so i think your 12.45$ is safe
 
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More links

Lotsa links down below; This is the current email I get.

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Dear Dennis,

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As we continue to highlight the important aspects of Social Media when it comes to effective grassroots advocacy this February, we turn from one new Internet giant, Facebook, to another tool in the social sphere that is growing at a rapid pace, Twitter. Twitter is very useful to the PPA and our goals. First, it allows us to quickly and easily spread up to the minute information and news to the poker community, which is very active on Twitter. So make sure you follow @ppapoker! Second, like Facebook, a significant number of U.S. Representatives, U.S. Senators, Administration officials and other high-level legislative figures now use Twitter on a regular basis to interact and hear from the average American, like you and I, that they represent. Here is an excellent website that lists all of the members of Congress who are active on Twitter. We encourage you to check it out, interact with them and ask them questions about your right to play poker. You might just get a response, but more than that, we will continue to make sure they know our voices will not be ignored, and we will not go away.


Weekly Update from Rich Muny, VP of Player Relations

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I have great news for everyone. This week was excellent for PPA’s efforts on Capitol Hill.

In our ongoing effort to win supporters from both sides of the aisle, PPA attended the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington D.C. for the fourth consecutive year. It went very well for us. It's important that we represent the poker community there and elsewhere within the conservative movement to keep this issue bipartisan. PPA attends progressive conferences as well, of course.

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Rich Muny, Director of Grassroots Drew Lesofski, and Member Relations Specialist Dave McGoldrick at CPAC

2004 WSOP Champion & PPA Board Member Greg Raymer, a terrific and tireless ambassador for the game, was on hand to sign autographs and to talk about our issue to attendees. Almost everyone who spoke with us was supportive. A very small number of people did want to debate the tired anti-poker talking points from a half-century ago, but we made short work of that.

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Greg Raymer signing autographs at CPAC

PPA conducted many interviews with mainstream and poker media while there. I broadcasted my OnTilt Radio show from the CPAC booth live, did a live interview with QuadJacks from the booth, and did a live wrap-up interview with Short Stacked Radio that evening.

Raymer and I were interviewed by Xiaoyan Zhang of Voice of America for broadcast in China. Ms. Zhang was very interested in how Americans are able to organize and stand up for their rights against laws they wish to see changed. I am proud that so many poker enthusiasts are standing up for the beliefs in this area. From the interview:

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The February 9th Senate Indian Affairs Committee hearing on Internet gaming went very well, too. PPA Board Member & Litigation Support Network Director Patrick “Skallagrim” Fleming testified before the committee, for which he received well-deserved praise on many poker forums for his efforts. Please read the PPA statement on the hearing here and Fleming’s testimony here, and please take the time to watch the hearing at www.theppa.org (the hearing starts at time point 44:25, Fleming’s testimony starts at time point 97:40).

Everyone whom we spoke with on Capitol Hill was very impressed with the grassroots social media advocacy of the poker community. It was apparent throughout the hearing that they were well aware of the growing support for online poker across the nation.

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Fleming testifying before the Senate Indian Affairs Committee


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Immediately following the hearing


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Patrick Fleming, Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI), and me after the hearing


PPA wishes to thank everyone who is active in this fight for taking the time to make themselves heard on Capitol Hill!

Interviews

PPA comes before poker media to take on the tough questions as often as possible. I hope you will find these interesting and informative. This past week’s interviews focused on CPAC and on the Senate Indian Affairs Committee online gaming hearing.

Upcoming appearances:
  • Webcast: “Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny” airs live each Monday at 8:30 PM ET on OnTilt Radio (listen live here).
Recent appearances:
  • OnTilt Radio: Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny, with guest PPA CO State Director & OnTilt Radio CEO Robin Jones (2/13/2012) (listen here)
  • QuadJacks Radio: QuadJacks News, I answer questions live from CPAC (2/10/2012) (listen here)
  • OnTilt Radio: Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny, Special edition -- live from CPAC (2/10/2012) (listen here)
  • OnTilt Radio/Luvin Poker: Round Table with SC Big, Discussion on the Everleaf network locking out U.S. players (2/9/2012) (listen here)
  • Short Stacked Radio: I come on at time point 1:30:50 (2/07/12) (listen here)
  • OnTilt Radio: Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny, with guest PPA Board Member and 2004 WSOP Champion Greg Raymer & PPA Board Member & Litigation Support Network Director Patrick “Skallagrim” Fleming (2/6/2012) (listen here)
  • Website: Poker Advocacy with Rich Muny, with webcast archive (here)
  • Website: Short Stacked Radio PPA Weekly Update, with webcast archive (here)
Thank you for your continued support!​

Proud to play,

Rich Muny
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The PPA wishes to keep active members like yourself updated on the latest poker advocacy news by periodically sending out select events and headlines. We hope you find it informative and thank you for your continuing support.


Federal Judge Refuses To Dismiss Online Poker Charges - Forbes (02/07/2012)

DC City Council Overturns Internet Gambling Legislation - PocketFives (02/08/2012)

Kansas Star Casino to open poker room later this month - Wichita Eagle (02/10/2012)


Time for action on online gaming - Las Vegas Sun (02/13/2012)

LAC Takeaways: Compacts Will Be the Future of U.S. Online Poker - PocketFives (02/13/2012)


Indiana legislators consider allowing poker players to deal cards at charity gambling events - The Republic (02/14/2012)


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so how far along are we on this tapie deal? will it not get done until the other FTP players pay back the $15mil they owe?

ugh. w/e. I feel the longer this goes along the less Tapie will want to do the deal as FTP is becoming more and more lost in history.
 
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federal online poker not happening until 2013

looking back, really wish we could have taken the blackout deal :(
 
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so how far along are we on this tapie deal? will it not get done until the other FTP players pay back the $15mil they owe?

ugh. w/e. I feel the longer this goes along the less Tapie will want to do the deal as FTP is becoming more and more lost in history.

Tapie won't be backing out of the deal they've just been spending time trying to reconstruct it in their best favor and get back those "loans" from some of the FTP Pros or whatever. Once they get to a point where they feel they can't get it any better the deal will be executed. Not to mention they can't even do anything til the whole mess with the DoJ clears up with FTP.
 
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I feel the longer this goes along the less Tapie will want to do the deal as FTP is becoming more and more lost in history.

I disagree on that last point - the site has been shut down for almost nine months, and it's still one of the most talked-about brands in poker.
 
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Poker dead for 2012?, quote from PPA.


According to one of the most respected gaming reporters in the business, federal legislation that would regulate and legalize the online poker industry in the United States is more than likely shut down until 2013 at the earliest.

On his Twitter account Friday afternoon, Las Vegas Review-Journal reporter Howard Stutz chirped to his readers, “One Wall Street analyst opinion: Internet poker legalization not being attached to the payroll tax bill means the issue is dead for 2012.”
 
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BY STEVE TETREAULT
STEPHENS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Posted: Feb. 16, 2012 | 3:13 p.m.
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Harry Reid put a sudden end to speculation and the hopes of card sharks when he declared that major payroll tax legislation unveiled Thursday did not contain legalization for Internet poker.

As details of the tax cut bill were being unfurled, Reid, the Senate majority leader from Nevada, said online poker was not in it. He did not elaborate on a quick comment made to a reporter as he entered a Senate elevator.

Poker players had invested in some hope the payroll tax bill could be the setting to legalize poker-playing on the Internet and establish sets of rules for games to be licensed and overseen by a federal agency and the states.

They plan to continue their vigil.

"While we were hopeful the payroll tax bill would include a bill to license and regulate online poker in the U.S., the Poker Players Alliance supports any other vehicle in which this can happen this year and believe this is a decision best left to the lawmakers," said Rich Muny, vice president of player relations for the organization.

The USA Fked up a great pastime for them and the world.
 
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According to EGR magazine, the deal closes next week and site up and running within 4 weeks.
 
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Well, that would be awesome, but we have heard stories like that for a long time now, so I am skeptical. I kind of have given up hope, if I get my money back it'll be a bonus. I wouldn't think this guy would make a deal though, it just doesn't seem worth it.
 
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I read the article in the link and I for one sure hope to recover some if not all of the funds i had in that account . Also i miss the play and being able to deal at the final table , i just hope when and if the new management take over the same options are used
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I would love to see this...

BUT I will believe it when I see it......
 
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