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Dasndi
Enthusiast
Silver Level
When does Luck favor the player at Poker?
I'm starting out in the Poker World. I play frequently in pokerstars' virtual rooms. I've also been devouring poker content to improve my skills.
As we all know, many times, even though we are "Tight Agressive" players and play a few hands, but in a conscious, conservative and sometimes aggressive way, luck can favor an opponent who won a certain hand only because of luck, that is , There was no brilliant play on his part, just luck. This is what I would like to address in this post, How Much Luck Influence in Poker?
I'm starting out in the Poker World. I play frequently in pokerstars' virtual rooms. I've also been devouring poker content to improve my skills.
As we all know, many times, even though we are "Tight Agressive" players and play a few hands, but in a conscious, conservative and sometimes aggressive way, luck can favor an opponent who won a certain hand only because of luck, that is , There was no brilliant play on his part, just luck. This is what I would like to address in this post, How Much Luck Influence in Poker?
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ZingyT
Rock Star
Silver Level
it depends
"proper" poker play is often determined by math (CSI, Bubble Factors, odds to Call, Reverse implied odds, etc.)
This math produces statistically known situations such as a pocket pair vs 2 overcards. However the varience/luck comes in on "which" hands and pots fall in your favor vs your opponents.
One of the best examples I can think is the 2013 (i think) wsop Heads up event.
Final hand (for the bracelet and mega $$) - AA vs 10/10 and the 10 comes on the river.
"proper" poker play is often determined by math (CSI, Bubble Factors, odds to Call, Reverse implied odds, etc.)
This math produces statistically known situations such as a pocket pair vs 2 overcards. However the varience/luck comes in on "which" hands and pots fall in your favor vs your opponents.
One of the best examples I can think is the 2013 (i think) wsop Heads up event.
Final hand (for the bracelet and mega $$) - AA vs 10/10 and the 10 comes on the river.
antonis32123
Legend
Loyaler
Quote:{Getting lucky is important to enjoy any success in a tournament, but I think avoiding bad luck is more importan}.
I agree
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I think you need both of them , luck and skill . You need luck to win all the coin flips on a tournament , to have the right cards on the board , to have more times monster hands or sets and not being carddead , but you need skill how to handle all the situations , your winnings , what stakes/games to play what hands to choose , what opponents , the best/right bets to make according to pot odds ,. So in the long term skill is more important , and you can see this to many successful cash and especially tournament players , with many millions $$ in winnings
I agree
. I think you need both of them , luck and skill . You need luck to win all the coin flips on a tournament , to have the right cards on the board , to have more times monster hands or sets and not being carddead , but you need skill how to handle all the situations , your winnings , what stakes/games to play what hands to choose , what opponents , the best/right bets to make according to pot odds ,. So in the long term skill is more important , and you can see this to many successful cash and especially tournament players , with many millions $$ in winnings
Odysseus101
Rock Star
Silver Level
Poker is equal parts skill and luck. The skill is in recognizing betting patterns and knowing the math, and strategy of position and stack size on any given hand.
But there's always an element of luck. A 7 and 9 off suit in the hole can and will beat your opponents bullets all-in preflop often enough, and the reverse will happen too.
Skill and math and experience will only increase your odds of making money over time. While each hand contributes to your results over time, never assume that you'll beat the variance on any single hand.
But there's always an element of luck. A 7 and 9 off suit in the hole can and will beat your opponents bullets all-in preflop often enough, and the reverse will happen too.
Skill and math and experience will only increase your odds of making money over time. While each hand contributes to your results over time, never assume that you'll beat the variance on any single hand.
acidburnfx
Senior apprentice
Loyaler
I think that putting 90% on the skill factor is very optimistic.
190%? Are you sure about that? There's something strange about this mathematics.
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Sacredoro
Rock Star
Silver Level
There is definitely some amount of luck in poker, but the vast majority of it is skill. Poker is a game that bears itself out over many hands, and short-term results and variance can be very misleading; is no luck in the long run.
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vaci38
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think it was more luck needed, many times I was convinced of that when I was lucky I won tournaments, even though I was the weaker player in the table , but can not someone luck forever to follow, then you have the knowledge and patience to had success in playing poker, I play only the free roll tournaments and see that there are a variety of players who do not think much about the game, relying on luck, someone has success but mostly relegated from the tournament very quicklyskills in poker you need to know at some point give some bluffing or has good cards, you need to react quickly, I think that a good poker player has a filing when someone is bluffing I felt it on my skin , but I'm a beginner so I have to try
, but can not someone luck forever to follow, then you have the knowledge and patience to had success in playing poker, I play only the free roll tournaments and see that there are a variety of players who do not think much about the game, relying on luck, someone has success but mostly relegated from the tournament very quicklyskills in poker you need to know at some point give some bluffing or has good cards, you need to react quickly, I think that a good poker player has a filing when someone is bluffing I felt it on my skin , but I'm a beginner so I have to try