****July Poker Chat Thread****

[eNTy]

Like I know that should make sense to me but what allows you to do this with a 100bb instead of 200bb? Don't you have the same implied odds with 76s vs AKo with a 100bb as you do with a 200bb?

because ur gonna be committed quicker with 100bbs and gonna have less room to draw
AK and AA/KK type hands play best with a small SPR, stack to pot ratio, that means they want a big preflop pot relative to remaining stacks, and less post flop decisions to make because they're committed soon.
with drawing hands u dont want to be committed soon cus ull get owned.

 

[jewboy07]

because ur gonna be committed quicker with 100bbs and gonna have less room to draw
AK and AA/KK type hands play best with a small SPR, stack to pot ratio, that means they want a big preflop pot relative to remaining stacks, and less post flop decisions to make because they're committed soon.
with drawing hands u dont want to be committed soon cus ull get owned.

also other people are generally bad at playing deep. they dont know that TP and other similiar hands are not hands to stack with 200 deep (not saying its ok 100 deep) so theyll be making mistakes for more money lots of times

 

[switch0723]

Let's not forget Belgo's EV graph:

Brilliant

 

[Falian]

Ahh... so lets you float pots with draws because your not relying on pot odds as much as you would with 100bb?

 

[jdeliverer]

Ahh... so lets you float pots with draws because your not relying on pot odds as much as you would with 100bb?

Well, you can still rely on pot odds, but you have more room to make a slightly incorrect call (based on pot odds alone) because of the higher implied odds.

 

[Falian]

Well, you can still rely on pot odds, but you have more room to make a slightly incorrect call (based on pot odds alone) because of the higher implied odds.

So you should be set mining like its 49 in San Fransisco?

 

[Richyl2008]

I made a new buddy tonight

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HAND #1
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party poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (UTG): $76.05 (304.2 bb)
MP: $22.20 (88.8 bb)
CO: $32.35 (129.4 bb)
BTN: $33.35 (133.4 bb)
SB: $24.75 (99 bb)
BB: $88.70 (354.8 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K:heart: K:club:
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 3 folds, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, MP folds, BB calls $8
Flop: ($25.10) J:heart: 6:club: 5:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15
Turn: ($55.10) T:spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49.05 and is all-in, BB calls $49.05
River: ($153.20) 9:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results:[spoil] $153.20 pot ($3 rake)
BB showed Q:spade: T:heart: (a pair of Tens) and lost (-$76.05 net)
Hero showed K:heart: K:club: (a pair of Kings) and won $150.20 ($74.15 net)
[/spoil]

 

[cAPSLOCK]

IMHO playing deep is the pokery-est poker of all poker.

edit: ^^^^^Just ask Richy up there!

 

[jewboy07]

So you should be set mining like its 49 in San Fransisco?

yeah you're pretty much getting odds to set mine in any situation when your deep

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I made a new buddy tonight

BB showed Q♠ T♥ (a pair of Tens) and lost (-$76.05 net)
Hero showed K♥ K♣ (a pair of Kings) and won $150.20 ($74.15 net)

Whee that's awesome. Is Pete back? Let this be the liftoff to a hot hot hot run.

 

[Dwilius]

I made a new buddy tonight

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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (UTG): $76.05 (304.2 bb)
MP: $22.20 (88.8 bb)
CO: $32.35 (129.4 bb)
BTN: $33.35 (133.4 bb)
SB: $24.75 (99 bb)
BB: $88.70 (354.8 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K♥ K♣
Hero raises to $1, MP calls $1, 3 folds, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, MP folds, BB calls $8
Flop: ($25.10) J♥ 6♣ 5♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15
Turn: ($55.10) T♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $49.05 and is all-in, BB calls $49.05
River: ($153.20) 9♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results:[spoil] $153.20 pot ($3 rake)
BB showed Q♠ T♥ (a pair of Tens) and lost (-$76.05 net)
Hero showed K♥ K♣ (a pair of Kings) and won $150.20 ($74.15 net)
[/spoil]

OMG, Richy...do you not read anything in this thread?

also other people are generally bad at playing deep. they dont know that TP and other similiar hands are not hands to stack with 200 deep (not saying its ok 100 deep) so theyll be making mistakes for more money lots of times

How the hell do you put 300bbs on one pair, villain could easily have T6 there. Congrats on the successful whale hunt.

 

[jdeliverer]

So you should be set mining like its 49 in San Fransisco?

Yeah pretty much. You should be set mining to larger raises, etc.

 

[SeanyJ]

I can't believe I almost folded a set in HU. This guy hadn't gotten out of line yet and he's never shown down anything but value hands. The only reason I didn't fold is because he would always be 3betting aces or tens preflop. I honestly thought I was going to see JK of hearts.

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (SB): $136.20 (272.4 bb)
BB: $102.70 (205.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 2:spade: 2:club:
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) T:heart: 2:heart: A:spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $7, Hero raises to $18, BB calls $11

Turn: ($39) Q:spade: (2 players)
BB bets $31, Hero calls $31

River: ($101) 8:heart: (2 players)
BB bets $52.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $52.20

Results: $205.40 pot ($0.50 rake)
BB showed 2:diamond: A:diamond: (two pairs, Aces and Twos) and lost (-$102.70 net)
Hero showed 2:spade: 2:club: (three of a kind, Twos) and won $204.90 ($102.20 net)

 

[zachvac]

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

Hero (BB): $202 (101 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K

J

BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 3

7

T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($12) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

River: ($28) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $45, BTN calls $45

Results: $118 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed K

J

(a pair of Kings) and won $117.50 ($58.50 net)
BTN mucked 3

6

and lost (-$59 net)

 

[zachvac]

And this one's against a pretty solid reg:

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players

MP2: $466.60 (233.3 bb)
MP3: $230.80 (115.4 bb)
CO: $115.25 (57.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $467.45 (233.7 bb)
BB: $604.05 (302 bb)
UTG+2: $162.70 (81.4 bb)
MP1: $227.95 (114 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 5

8

5 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB folds, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($13) K

A

T

(2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $4, BB folds

Results: $17 pot ($0.85 rake)
Hero mucked 5

8

(high card Ace) and won $16.15 ($8.15 net)

 

[zachvac]

And last one, this was kinda sweet:

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players

MP3: $219.40 (109.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $404.55 (202.3 bb)
BTN: $119.80 (59.9 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $205.15 (102.6 bb)
UTG+1: $198 (99 bb)
UTG+2: $255 (127.5 bb)
MP1: $616.95 (308.5 bb)
MP2: $72 (36 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with A

Q

UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $9, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $9, Hero calls $9, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $7

Flop: ($39) 7

Q

8

(4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $39, MP3 folds, Hero calls $39, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($117) 2

(2 players)
MP1 bets $117, Hero raises to $356.55 and is all-in, MP1 calls $239.55

River: ($830.10) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $830.10 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A

Q

(a pair of Queens) and won $827.10 ($422.55 net)
MP1 showed Q

T

(a pair of Queens) and lost (-$404.55 net)

 

[SeanyJ]

And last one, this was kinda sweet:

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players

MP3: $219.40 (109.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $404.55 (202.3 bb)
BTN: $119.80 (59.9 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BB: $205.15 (102.6 bb)
UTG+1: $198 (99 bb)
UTG+2: $255 (127.5 bb)
MP1: $616.95 (308.5 bb)
MP2: $72 (36 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with A

Q

UTG+1 calls $2, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $9, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $9, Hero calls $9, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $7

Flop: ($39) 7

Q

8

(4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $39, MP3 folds, Hero calls $39, UTG+1 folds

Turn: ($117) 2

(2 players)
MP1 bets $117, Hero raises to $356.55 and is all-in, MP1 calls $239.55

River: ($830.10) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $830.10 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A

Q

(a pair of Queens) and won $827.10 ($422.55 net)
MP1 showed Q

T

(a pair of Queens) and lost (-$404.55 net)

imo

 

[pantin007]

imo

my fav black and white movie

 

[The Shrog]

Drunk poasting for maybe the first time ever on CC.

 

[Dwilius]

UltimateBet just canceled bonuses without warning https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-rooms-10/ultimatebet-no-more-bonus-dollars-after-155816-new/ I know alot of you will just say what did you expect from them...

 

[KingCurtis]

whew, finally got out of my -4BI downswing and am breathing again.(laugh if you want) Although I made a small adjustment before my recent +4BI session and it made huge differences.

 

[Suited Frenzy]

SB play = WTF?!?! :stupid:

I love BB specials. :hahaha: SB

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $1.85 (18.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2 (20 bb)
MP1: $2 (20 bb)
MP2: $12.57 (125.7 bb)
MP3: $13.09 (130.9 bb)
CO: $3.56 (35.6 bb)
BTN: $9.90 (99 bb)
SB: $7.09 (70.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 7

3

7 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20) 6

4

5

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.40) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

River: ($0.80) A

(2 players)
SB bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1.10, SB calls $0.75

Results: $3 pot ($0.20 rake)
Hero showed 7

3

(a straight, Three to Seven) and won $2.80 ($1.30 net)
SB showed K

K

(a pair of Kings) and lost (-$1.50 net)

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Let's not forget Belgo's EV graph:

I'm actually running below EV this month. And ran almost exactly at EV during the above session.

But you're right, i'm significantly above EV lifetime.

 

[icemonkey9]

But you're right, i'm significantly above EV lifetime.

You know what they say about all good things my friend...

 

[Suited Frenzy]

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

Hero (BB): $202 (101 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K

J

BTN raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 3

7

T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($12) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $8, BTN calls $8

River: ($28) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $45, BTN calls $45

Results: $118 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed K

J

(a pair of Kings) and won $117.50 ($58.50 net)
BTN mucked 3

6

and lost (-$59 net)

@ BTN's calls. WTF?!?!