**** Thread of Shame ****

[IM deusXmachina]

I'll get the ball rolling with this little beauty.
Villain is a solid reg who (rightly) views me as a spewtard.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2274458
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $42.25
SB: $89.24
BB: $108.50
Hero (UTG): $100.00
MP: $100.00
CO: $71.56

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A ♥ K ♦
Hero raises to $3, MP calls $3, 4 folds

Flop: ($7.50) J ♣ K ♣ 4 ♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($16.50) 7 ♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $12, Hero calls $12

River: ($40.50) A ♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $28.50, Hero raises to $80.50 all in, MP calls $52 all in

Final Pot: $201.50
Hero shows A ♥ K ♦ (two pair, Aces and Kings)
MP shows J ♦ J ♠ (three of a kind, Jacks)
MP wins $198.70
(Rake: $2.80)


I knew my image was shite, my hand underrepped and I figured I looked full of shit. Thing is I got so caught up looking in to my range I didn't think about his value range here which is going to be very tight as he can't realisticly bet lone aces and expect much value, I have AJ loads and he is unlikely to double barrel it.Leaving me with just KJ and loads of stuff that beats me.

That and although I don't check/call QT here alot of people probably do. You feel like such a tool when you ship for thin value, villain tanks then hero calls the 3rd nuts

Its really the 7th nuts, although it is unlikely AA, KK, jj, 77, 44, and Q10 are all superior after the river. and unless you put your opponent on any of those hands (77 being even more unlikely than 44), and I was wondering why you preferred to check the flop with a potential flush draw on the flop. Q 10 suited is a possible money burner for anyone with cash to throw around, and since you checked twice he could have just as easily been trying to push you off a weak K or J ( weak kicker) having outs with either the up and down, or flush outs. Villian is betting half pot or more on each street, so it looks like you saved money...until you moved all in on the river, which I understand the A was the worst card that could have come out save your K for trips dominated by Jacks full...your not folding either of those. Keep grinding and IMO there is never one right answer, I was just spewing out some of the thoughts that occurred to me as I read your Hand details.

 

[Ducky7]

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $87.71 (VPIP: 39.92, PFR: 20.17, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 243)
CO: $54.35 (VPIP: 26.70, PFR: 20.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.28, Hands: 4,000)
BTN: $61.69 (VPIP: 50.98, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.57, Hands: 107)
SB: $67.97 (VPIP: 20.91, PFR: 16.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.09, Hands: 1,436)
Hero (BB): $59.45
UTG: $62.64 (VPIP: 21.49, PFR: 16.73, 3Bet Preflop: 8.14, Hands: 2,056)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J:heart: A:diamond:

fold, MP raises to $1.50, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, fold, Hero raises to $12.00, fold, fold, BTN calls $7.50

Flop: ($30.25, 2 players) 8:spade: Q:club: 2:heart:
Hero bets $13.00, BTN raises to $49.69 and is all-in, fold

BTN wins $53.75

 

[Cafeman]

Looks OK to me.

 

[Aces2w1n]

888 Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: $3.72 (VPIP: 18.44, PFR: 9.93, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 144)
BB: $3.34 (VPIP: 58.62, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
UTG: $2.68 (VPIP: 23.78, PFR: 16.76, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 188)
Hero (CO): $2.39
BTN: $2.07 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 50)
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 4:diamond: A:diamond:
fold, Hero raises to $0.04, fold, SB raises to $0.18, fold, Hero calls $0.14
Flop: ($0.38, 2 players) 3:club: 7:heart: 4:club:
SB bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28
Turn: ($0.94, 2 players) Q:heart:
SB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70
River: ($2.34, 2 players) 9:club:
SB bets $0.65, Hero calls $0.65

Even better


888 Poker - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: $2.15 (VPIP: 11.97, PFR: 9.40, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 121)
UTG: $0.75 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 68)
CO: $0.50 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
Hero (BTN): $2.74
SB: $1.82 (VPIP: 54.17, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, CO posts DB $0.02
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.05) Hero has 5:heart: 8:heart:
fold, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.09, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.07, CO calls $0.07
Flop: ($0.36, 4 players) 3:diamond: 2:club: T:spade:
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.18, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.18, fold
Turn: ($0.90, 3 players) 5:club:
SB checks, BB bets $0.86, Hero calls $0.86, fold
River: ($2.62, 2 players) 2:spade:
BB bets $1.02, Hero calls $1.02

 

[Deco]

I was wondering why you preferred to check the flop with a potential flush draw on the flop. Q 10 suited is a possible money burner for anyone with cash to throw around, and since you checked twice he could have just as easily been trying to push you off a weak K or J :

To Balance. If I only checked weaker hands than this it would be pretty easy for him to barrel me off my hand with all his range.

The flush and straight draws will bet for me anyway, I'll also have loads of air take a shot of getting me off my hand.

I'm happy with the check just the river raise is awful

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 40.2 BB (VPIP: 11.54, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 26)
MP: 99 BB (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 314.2 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 42)
Hero (BTN): 101.4 BB
SB: 250 BB (VPIP: 35.09, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 19.23, Hands: 59)
BB: 185.6 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:diamond: 4:club:

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.4 BB, 2 players) J:diamond: 8:club: K:club:
CO checks, Hero bets 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB

Turn: (15.4 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

River: (33.4 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:
CO checks, Hero bets 85.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 32 BB

Similar to the last hand. I knew he was weak but I had no clue if even 80% pot would make him fold. Felt like the ship always works though

 

[switch0723]

so where can i find a hand converter?

 

[WVHillbilly]

http://www.handconverter.com/

Pick the 2+2 format.

 

[switch0723]

:thumb:

poker stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t2000 66.67 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1000 33.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with K:spade: 7:spade:
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) A:heart: J:spade: T:heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) A:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t180, Hero calls t120

River: (t480) 5:club: (2 players)
BB bets t690, Hero calls t690

Final Pot: t1860
BB shows A:spade: T:spade: (a full house, Aces full of Tens)
Hero mucks K:spade: 7:spade:
BB wins t1860

 

[acky100]

that's better! ^

 

[WVHillbilly]

:thumb:

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t2000 66.67 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1000 33.33 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with K♠ 7♠
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) A♥ J♠ T♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) A♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t180, Hero calls t120

River: (t480) 5♣ (2 players)
BB bets t690, Hero calls t690

Final Pot: t1860
BB shows A♠ T♠ (a full house, Aces full of Tens)
Hero mucks K♠ 7♠
BB wins t1860

Awesome! As great as it is though it could have been EPIC shame!

Just imagine that you had RAISED the river bet and put the rest of your stack, all 70 remaining chips in there! I get chills just considering it!

 

[TylerN]

Is it just me or does that hand seem fine lol

 

[IM deusXmachina]

Revolution Gaming Network - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $36.42 (VPIP: 91.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: $20.00 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
Hero (CO): $20.00
BTN: $15.94 (VPIP: 40.51, PFR: 31.65, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 83)
SB: $26.79 (VPIP: 25.83, PFR: 20.42, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 245)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has T♦ Q♣

UTG calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, fold, BB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.30, 4 players) A♣ 8♣ 5♣
BB bets $1.65, fold, Hero calls $1.65, BTN calls $1.65

Turn: ($8.25, 3 players) 4♣
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20

River: ($8.85, 3 players) 9♠
BB checks, Hero bets $5.00, BTN raises to $13.29 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $8.29

Hero shows T♦ Q♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 42%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows K♣ 7♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 58%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins $33.66

There isn't much more difficult than folding the 2nd nuts... tough card to come out, just about the worst one ( well any club at that point...) Keep grinding and GL!

 

[doomasiggy]

This was pretty bad:

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $7.10 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 12.37, 3Bet Preflop: 4.38, Hands: 409)
SB: $4.87 (VPIP: 22.06, PFR: 9.36, 3Bet Preflop: 1.28, Hands: 209)
BB: $4.07 (VPIP: 25.76, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)
Hero (UTG): $5.07
CO: $5.00 (VPIP: 24.72, PFR: 5.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 94)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05, CO posts DB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.12) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

Hero raises to $0.17, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.41, 2 players) 9:diamond: Q:heart: 9:spade:
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.41, 2 players) T:heart:
BB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

River: ($0.91, 2 players) 4:diamond:
BB bets $3.65 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.65

 

[redwards92]

LOOOOOOOOOOOL please everyone take it easy on me

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $5.66
SB: $5.00
Hero (BB): $6.03
UTG: $4.68
MP: $4.98
CO: $3.87

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with

UTG raises to $0.20, 1 fold, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.82) Q♦ J♥ 9♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48, UTG raises to $4.48 all in, CO folds, BTN raises to $5.46 all in, Hero calls $4.98

Turn: ($16.22) 9♥ (3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($16.22) 2♥ (3 players - 2 are all in)

Spoiler

Final Pot: $16.22
BTN shows Qc Qh (a full house, Queens full of Nines)
Hero shows 7h Ts (a pair of Nines)
UTG shows Jc Js (a full house, Jacks full of Nines)
BTN wins $1.88
BTN wins $13.67
(Rake: $0.67)

Didn't want to post here as everyone knows i'm the worst player/spewtard/maniac on these forums but i figured i'd let everyone lol at me at least one time....

gg me

EDIT

lol found one even worse

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $5.07
SB: $5.05
BB: $5.72
UTG: $4.98
MP: $14.87
CO: $5.44

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BTN with 5♥ 8♥
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.46, Hero calls $0.31

Flop: ($0.94) K♠ J♦ 2♣ (2 players)
BB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $1.15

Turn: ($4.14) 4♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.01 all in, BB calls $3.01

River: ($10.16) J♠ (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler

Final Pot: $10.16
Hero shows 5h 8h (a pair of Jacks)
BB shows Kc Kh (a full house, Kings full of Jacks)
BB wins $9.74
(Rake: $0.42)

That's all you get!!

 

[switch0723]

Is it just me or does that hand seem fine lol

According to my reads and notes he either had Quads or nothing. Some solid reads right there imo

 

[redwards92]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $11.93
SB: $4.88
Hero (BB): $6.63
UTG: $8.65
MP: $5.49
CO: $5.16

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with 9:club: K:club:
1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.32) 6:diamond: 8:spade: 7:club: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.65, MP calls $0.65, BTN calls $0.45

Turn: ($2.27) A:spade: (3 players)
Hero bets $1.35, MP calls $1.35, BTN calls $1.35

River: ($6.32) 5:spade: (3 players)
Hero bets $4.53 all in, MP calls $3.39 all in, BTN calls $4.53

Spoiler

Final Pot: $18.77
BTN shows 9h Qh (a straight, Five to Nine)
Hero shows 9c Kc (a straight, Five to Nine)
MP shows Ts Qs (a flush, Ace high)
Hero wins $1.09
BTN wins $1.09
MP wins $15.81
(Rake: $0.78)

i know i know bet turn bigger somehow after i've heard that like 30 times today I still did it again typical me though

 

[duggs]

pokerstars Hand #102754646599: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2013/08/14 22:58:00 CET [2013/08/14 16:58:00 ET]
Table 'Daedalus V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: NickAlaska ($65.08 in chips)
Seat 2: Urbanidze ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 3: inplant ($51.21 in chips)
Seat 4: sirduggan13 ($78.74 in chips)
Seat 5: SickDayNight ($62.74 in chips)
Seat 6: robne1980 ($85.45 in chips)
NickAlaska: posts small blind $0.10
Urbanidze: posts big blind $0.25
NickAlaska: posts the ante $0.05
Urbanidze: posts the ante $0.05
inplant: posts the ante $0.05
sirduggan13: posts the ante $0.05
SickDayNight: posts the ante $0.05
robne1980: posts the ante $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to sirduggan13 [Qc Kc]
inplant is disconnected
inplant is connected
inplant: calls $0.25
sirduggan13: raises $1.50 to $1.75
SickDayNight: folds
robne1980: calls $1.75
NickAlaska: folds
Urbanidze: folds
inplant: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Tc Th Kh]
inplant: checks
sirduggan13: bets $3.25
robne1980: raises $3.25 to $6.50
inplant: folds
sirduggan13: calls $3.25
*** TURN *** [Tc Th Kh] [Qh]
sirduggan13: checks
robne1980: bets $10.75
sirduggan13: calls $10.75
*** RIVER *** [Tc Th Kh Qh] [2h]
sirduggan13: checks
robne1980: bets $18.50
sirduggan13: calls $18.50

 

[switch0723]

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN/SB: t990 24.75 BBs
Hero (BB): t2010 50.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with Q:heart: 8:diamond:
BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t160) 8:spade: K:heart: T:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t320) T:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t160, Hero raises to t320, BTN/SB calls t160

River: (t960) 2:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets t560, BTN/SB calls t510 all in

Final Pot: t1980
BTN/SB shows 6:club: T:club: (three of a kind, Tens)
Hero shows Q:heart: 8:diamond: (two pair, Tens and Eights)
BTN/SB wins t1980

 

[WVHillbilly]

Super thin value shove?

 

[switch0723]

nah trying to get a king to fold, but i do it awfully and just maximize my losses when he has a ten. Should raise turn to 400+ then c/f riv

 

[WVHillbilly]

You think a King folds there?

 

[switch0723]

probably, it was against all.om.an who's a good player and he knows that my bluffing range there is only 97 or an 8 turned into a bluff so he has to sigh fold a king. At least he has to if i play it right, he prob has to call the minr with the king then sigh call riv

 

[switch0723]

at least thats my theory, but its in the thread of shame since he prob snaps twice with a king

 

[WVHillbilly]

Yeah, I mean this thread isn't really for any sort of analysis but I was just wondering if you thought he'd fold a K there.