Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[rhombus]

tried to play a session tonight but had to stop before mouse went through the window lol

1st hand KK is it best to Pot Control on bad Flops Only 4 hands on villain 25/25/6

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $16.82 (168.2 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $28.29 (282.9 bb)
MP: $13.80 (138 bb)
Hero (CO): $16.90 (169 bb)
BTN: $18.17 (181.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

K

UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 3

8

9

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.95) 9

(2 players)
UTG bets $1.39, Hero calls $1.39

River: ($4.73) 8

(2 players)
UTG bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20

Results: $13.13 pot ($0.59 rake)
Final Board: 3

8

9

9

8

UTG showed 9

8

and won $12.54 ($6.05 net)
Hero mucked K

K

and lost (-$6.49 net)



2 runner runner hands then
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.70 (107 bb)
BB: $8.21 (82.1 bb)
UTG: $10.87 (108.7 bb)
MP: $23.04 (230.4 bb)
CO: $11.51 (115.1 bb)
BTN: $5.14 (51.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.24, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.19, BB calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.72) 7

K

K

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37, BB calls $0.37

Turn: ($1.83) 7

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.96, Hero calls $0.96, BB folds

River: ($3.75) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.30, MP raises to $9, Hero calls $6.70

Results: $21.75 pot ($0.98 rake)
Final Board: 7

K

K

7

9

Hero mucked K

Q

and lost (-$10.57 net)
MP showed 7

7

and won $20.77 ($10.20 net)

Last year probably spewed off a few buyins but decided to stop for the day

 

[Figaroo2]

Rhom They just look like a couple of regulation bad beats tbh.
I'd have bet the flop pretty big 75% min on the monotone flop and reassessed if I get called. I wouldn't want to give a single high club a free shot at making a flush especially with this being a 3 bet pot. He doesn't have an 8 or 9 here hardly ever, I would have to call against his range.
KQ hand I can't see Id do anything much different, maybe leadout on the turn to try and get stacks in.... unlucky.

 

[rhombus]

Rhom They just look like a couple of regulation bad beats tbh.
I'd have bet the flop pretty big 75% min on the monotone flop and reassessed if I get called. I wouldn't want to give a single high club a free shot at making a flush especially with this being a 3 bet pot. He doesn't have an 8 or 9 here hardly ever, I would have to call against his range.
KQ hand I can't see Id do anything much different, maybe leadout on the turn to try and get stacks in.... unlucky.

dont mind the bad beats was just unsure about the KK hand in general either pot control as I did and maybe hero fold the River or lead out flop and fold to shove

hindsight fold river as what could he have that I beat dont think he would have bet TT or JJ maybe bluff AK or AQ with a missed flush draw

 

[or3o1990]

Well, that's why I created the hitman HUD also. So you can make quick reads and apply them. I think in general, at 100nl, people will fall into 2 pretty polarizing categories on there. Those that are there to gamble it up, and those that play solid TAG and don't bluff very often. You need to separate those first and then make the other nuanced reads. It's doable, I've played on there for awhile now.

Throw in some limp callers and youve hit the nail on the head. The hud definitely helps. I guess ive just got to apply what little info i can pick up asap and see what happens..

 

[Figaroo2]

dont mind the bad beats was just unsure about the KK hand in general either pot control as I did and maybe hero fold the River or lead out flop and fold to shove

hindsight fold river as what could he have that I beat dont think he would have bet TT or JJ maybe bluff AK or AQ with a missed flush draw

Well he has called a 3 bet oop with 89, most of the time thats just spew unless you are intending to bluff most of the time and as you only have 4 hands on each other I cant see that he would know anything about your tendencies. If we assume he is competant he
will actually have TT JJ QQ AK AQ and maybe AJs most of the time here. As I said I would have bet the flop unless you run into high suited clubs I would say you are nearly always in front here. The key is its a 3bet pot so most players will fold their small & medium pairs and suited connectors. unless of course they are fish so Im betting and not pot controlling until I run into significant resistance. No freebie cards on this flop from me.

 

[John A]

tried to play a session tonight but had to stop before mouse went through the window lol

1st hand KK is it best to Pot Control on bad Flops Only 4 hands on villain 25/25/6

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $16.82 (168.2 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $28.29 (282.9 bb)
MP: $13.80 (138 bb)
Hero (CO): $16.90 (169 bb)
BTN: $18.17 (181.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

K

UTG raises to $0.30, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 3

8

9

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.95) 9

(2 players)
UTG bets $1.39, Hero calls $1.39

River: ($4.73) 8

(2 players)
UTG bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20

Results: $13.13 pot ($0.59 rake)
Final Board: 3

8

9

9

8

UTG showed 9

8

and won $12.54 ($6.05 net)
Hero mucked K

K

and lost (-$6.49 net)

If someone opens UTG, I'd tend to 3-bet them larger in general since they'll have more second best hands they'll call with. Plus you get more into the pot when you're in position. As played, I know you wanted to pot control, but that's a decent flop for the money to go in for you. I'd just bet the flop. I think once you check the flop, then you're calling turn river.

2 runner runner hands then
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.70 (107 bb)
BB: $8.21 (82.1 bb)
UTG: $10.87 (108.7 bb)
MP: $23.04 (230.4 bb)
CO: $11.51 (115.1 bb)
BTN: $5.14 (51.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.24, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.19, BB calls $0.14

Flop: ($0.72) 7

K

K

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37, BB calls $0.37

Turn: ($1.83) 7

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.96, Hero calls $0.96, BB folds

River: ($3.75) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.30, MP raises to $9, Hero calls $6.70

Results: $21.75 pot ($0.98 rake)
Final Board: 7

K

K

7

9

Hero mucked K

Q

and lost (-$10.57 net)
MP showed 7

7

and won $20.77 ($10.20 net)

Last year probably spewed off a few buyins but decided to stop for the day

Yeah, not much you can do here. And that's great that you stopped yourself. That's a bigger accomplishment than you may realize right now. Good job!

 

[John A]

Throw in some limp callers and youve hit the nail on the head. The hud definitely helps. I guess ive just got to apply what little info i can pick up asap and see what happens..

Yes it does. Well, when my new office is fully setup next week I'll find some time to do a free lesson with you. We can go over some of the Bovada tips I use and address some strategy. It will likely be the middle of next week or sometime around then. PM me with your e-mail address when you can.

 

[Figaroo2]

What is this

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $31.02 (124.1 bb)
BB: $26.20 (104.8 bb)
UTG+1: $24.50 (98 bb) Fish 28/8 45% agg 101 hands
UTG+2: $30.95 (123.8 bb)
MP1: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $26.57 (106.3 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $33.89 (135.6 bb)
BTN: $22.19 (88.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K:diamond: A:diamond:
UTG+1 raises to $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.85) 7:diamond: 6:club: A:club: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $3b
Really a check raise on this board?

Turn: ($17.85) J:club: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $8.52,
Hero?
I mean what has this guy called with here to do this? AK AJ KQs 66 77

 

[Figaroo2]

What do we do on the river here?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $11.92 (47.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $32.01 (128 bb) One of the very best regs at this level 18/14/36 3.4K of hands
MP2: $26.96 (107.8 bb)
MP3: $28.43 (113.7 bb)
CO: $25.68 (102.7 bb)
BTN: $27.36 (109.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A:diamond: J:diamond:
MP1 raises to $0.75, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) J:club: J:spade: K:diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.35) 5:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $5.75, MP1 calls $5.75

River: ($16.85) Q:club: (2 players)
Hero?

 

[Figaroo2]

Another slighly awkward river spot after bad runout
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $25.86 (103.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $33.16 (132.6 bb)
MP1: $28.65 (114.6 bb)
MP2: $25.24 (101 bb)
MP3: $25.13 (100.5 bb) Marked as an ABC NIT 29% fold to 3 bet. I had used the overbet the turn play against this villain already this session.
CO: $73.39 (293.6 bb)
BTN: $40.44 (161.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: A:diamond:
2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 4:spade: A:spade: Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.80) K:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4

River: ($11.80) J:spade: (2 players)
Hero?

 

[duggs]

AK, id honestly be 3bet gii v him on the flop, its legitimately really hard for him to connect with this board and have us in poor shape, he is also more likely to irrationally raise weaker Ax hands to protect them from the fd, wouldn't be surprised to see A9+ here at all. As played call turn and see what happens on the river

AJ, whats with our sizing? I don't think we can x/j here v villain and expect to get called, but as played lead river, he isn't opening QJ UTG so his range only improved QQ exactly so we can still get value from AK/AA

AQ why are we leading one of the best cards for his range? river is yuck, don't really expect to make better fold, but don't see any value whatsoever. do we expect him bluff often?

 

[Figaroo2]

AK, id honestly be 3bet gii v him on the flop, its legitimately really hard for him to connect with this board and have us in poor shape, he is also more likely to irrationally raise weaker Ax hands to protect them from the fd, wouldn't be surprised to see A9+ here at all. As played call turn and see what happens on the river

AJ, whats with our sizing? I don't think we can x/j here v villain and expect to get called, but as played lead river, he isn't opening QJ UTG so his range only improved QQ exactly so we can still get value from AK/AA

AQ why are we leading one of the best cards for his range? river is yuck, don't really expect to make better fold, but don't see any value whatsoever. do we expect him bluff often?

AJ I was annoyed I just didn't CR on the flop, I wasn't sure what to do on the turn tbh but in the end I decided I wanted to leave a pot sized bet behind. I'm experimenting quite a bit with overbetting the turn oop mainly with bluffs on dry boards. Here I thought Id try to make this value bet look bluffy. I've played a lot of hands with this villain, most bad regs at this level clearly find these bets, confusing tank for a bit and nearly always fold but this good reg called almost immediately.

AQ yep leading into the K was bad, I was lucky he didn't have AK. I saw the two possible flush draws and wanted to charge him fully before realising that AK would make up a big part of his range here. One good thing that came out of this hand was that the table saw the turn overbet was with a value hand of sorts.

 

[or3o1990]

Yes it does. Well, when my new office is fully setup next week I'll find some time to do a free lesson with you. We can go over some of the Bovada tips I use and address some strategy. It will likely be the middle of next week or sometime around then. PM me with your e-mail address when you can.

Sweet! I'll pm you..

 

[AggressivelyHonest]

AK, id honestly be 3bet gii v him on the flop, its legitimately really hard for him to connect with this board and have us in poor shape, he is also more likely to irrationally raise weaker Ax hands to protect them from the fd, wouldn't be surprised to see A9+ here at all. As played call turn and see what happens on the river

AJ, whats with our sizing? I don't think we can x/j here v villain and expect to get called, but as played lead river, he isn't opening QJ UTG so his range only improved QQ exactly so we can still get value from AK/AA

AQ why are we leading one of the best cards for his range? river is yuck, don't really expect to make better fold, but don't see any value whatsoever. do we expect him bluff often?

AK --- I'd 3-bet shove here, too. Once in a while you'll be crushed by a set, but you'll get called by a lot of flips (combo draws), flush draws, and weaker aces. I also think the flop raise sizing is telling. Either you're crushed (set) and he doesn't want to scare you away, or he's trying to draw cheap. I 3-bet shove and live with he result.

AJ --- I think that duggs might have missed the possible flush here, but I agree that we can't x/j the turn and get called if we're ahead. I'm fine with the turn lead and agree that, as played, you have to bet the river. I'd bet $10 or so and call if he shoves (even though there are hands that beat you: Axcc, KK and QQ) because of the price you'd be getting. I could also live with a river x/c but I think you're missing possible value from AK and AA who will likely check behind here.

AQ --- I'm check-raising the flop a high percentage of the time (looking to gii) because there are plenty of draws and other aces that will pay you off. Both the turn and river are terrible for you but you have to lead the turn. I agree with duggs that you check the river and evaluate. If the villain is that straightforward a NIT it's probably a river fold if he makes a substantial river bet.

 

[John A]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $31.02 (124.1 bb)
BB: $26.20 (104.8 bb)
UTG+1: $24.50 (98 bb) Fish 28/8 45% agg 101 hands
UTG+2: $30.95 (123.8 bb)
MP1: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $26.57 (106.3 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $33.89 (135.6 bb)
BTN: $22.19 (88.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♦ A♦
UTG+1 raises to $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.85) 7♦ 6♣ A♣ (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $3b
Really a check raise on this board?

Turn: ($17.85) J♣ (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $8.52,
Hero?
I mean what has this guy called with here to do this? AK AJ KQs 66 77

What happened to you in this hand? I don't understand the pre-flop sizing, and you're betting really small on the flop even against fish. Pre-flop should be close to $3+ and the flop should be about 4.5. You bet so small it could be a fish thinking his A8 is good. He's kind of an aggressive fish so far, so it's difficult to know if he's over valuing his hand or he really has something. You made it a lot more difficult with the sizing though. I think because of that and because he could over value AQ and other Ax, you have to peel the turn again, and I guess I'm folding to most river bets unless small.

 

[John A]

What do we do on the river here?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $11.92 (47.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $32.01 (128 bb) One of the very best regs at this level 18/14/36 3.4K of hands
MP2: $26.96 (107.8 bb)
MP3: $28.43 (113.7 bb)
CO: $25.68 (102.7 bb)
BTN: $27.36 (109.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦ J♦
MP1 raises to $0.75, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) J♣ J♠ K♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.35) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $5.75, MP1 calls $5.75

River: ($16.85) Q♣ (2 players)
Hero?

If he's a good reg, then it's probably going to be hard to get called by worse on the river here much, so I'd probably go for crying call value vs his AA/AK/KQ. I'd probably bet around 9$ish. It's not ideal for over betting the turn, as you'd like to just shove the river, but I don't think it will work here often enough.

 

[John A]

Another slighly awkward river spot after bad runout
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $25.86 (103.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $33.16 (132.6 bb)
MP1: $28.65 (114.6 bb)
MP2: $25.24 (101 bb)
MP3: $25.13 (100.5 bb) Marked as an ABC NIT 29% fold to 3 bet. I had used the overbet the turn play against this villain already this session.
CO: $73.39 (293.6 bb)
BTN: $40.44 (161.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♠ A♦
2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 4♠ A♠ Q♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($3.80) K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4

River: ($11.80) J♠ (2 players)
Hero?

I think the river here you set a price in your head that you'd be willing to call if you check, and then bet that amount. At least try and get some crying calls from KQ/AJ and maybe fold from some splits AQ. Check / fold is close to and since he's a nit he'll make this decision a lot easier if you have some river stats on him.

 

[Figaroo2]

Thanks for the feedback, I'm hardly playing at the moment. Real life is in the way and I'm close to being mentally exhausted after a mind numbing 160 hours at work in the last two weeks. It is definitely effecting my ability to think at all, let alone clearly. I played 13 hands friday got stacked and just shut down and went to sleep for 17 hours.
My volume is a 3rd of its normal level this month

AKs hand... fish had 66 for a set. I can't believe he called a 10bb raise oop with 66 but fish do what they do, I've got to expect the unexpected more when playing with fish. This guy was too aggressive to give the benefit to though and the money went in, at least one of the other regs called him a drooler. I don't have any tilt issues losing hands like this, you want the fish to call with 66 so can't really complain when they do and they hit.
I take on board the bet sizing advice, I have been considering my bet sizing much more than I used to, clearly I still need to focus on it.

AJ hand flopping trips I bet $8.50 on the river and he snap folded.

AQ I bet what I would have called $4 (as suggested) he tank called and it was a split with AQ.

 

[rhombus]

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $31.02 (124.1 bb)
BB: $26.20 (104.8 bb)
UTG+1: $24.50 (98 bb) Fish 28/8 45% agg 101 hands
UTG+2: $30.95 (123.8 bb)
MP1: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $26.57 (106.3 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $33.89 (135.6 bb)
BTN: $22.19 (88.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♦ A♦
UTG+1 raises to $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($5.85) 7♦ 6♣ A♣ (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $3b
Really a check raise on this board?

Turn: ($17.85) J♣ (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $8.52,
Hero?
I mean what has this guy called with here to do this? AK AJ KQs 66 77

Call Turn and fold to shove on River
PS where/who is UTG

 

[or3o1990]

I didn't think that I had both of them beat when they both called my c bet and when the diamond turned I figured if I was ahead before then I might not be ahead now. He had less then a pot sized bet behind and I figured he was shoving the river so I folded the turn..

Too nitty or what?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 94 BB
MP+1: 109.3 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP+2: 47.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 100 BB
BTN: 81.75 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
SB: 43 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 86 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 66 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has A<font color='black'>♣</font> K<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (13.5 BB, 3 players) T<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='red'>♦</font> Q<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, MP+2 calls 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB

Turn: (34.5 BB, 3 players) 3<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, MP+2 bets 10.93 BB, fold, fold

MP+2 wins 32.8 BB

 

[Figaroo2]

In line with what John was advocating about bet sizing against fish, Id bet nearer full pot with tptk here. Both villains stats are looking fishy already and there are no end of draw/pair combos on this flop. As played Id have difficulty folding this turn on his bet sizing, I'm pretty sure I would call here and see what happens on the river. He might just be betting because you both checked. His sizing looks polarising to air (as cheap as he can get away with as a bluff) or nuts (hes milking you), I want more proof he has it on the river here before folding against these guys

 

[or3o1990]

In line with what John was advocating about bet sizing against fish, Id bet nearer full pot with tptk here. Both villains stats are looking fishy already and there are no end of draw/pair combos on this flop. As played Id have difficulty folding this turn on his bet sizing, I'm pretty sure I would call here and see what happens on the river. He might just be betting because you both checked. His sizing looks polarising to air (as cheap as he can get away with as a bluff) or nuts (hes milking you), I want more proof he has it on the river here before folding against these guys

So you call the turn then fold the river if he shoves? He could be trying to steal the pot but it's not often that I see fish floating the flop and betting the turn like that. I'm pretty confident I would have been facing a shove on the river.

 

[or3o1990]

I've been running like a three legged dog the past month and I haven't been playing my A game either. I just started a new job a little over a month ago and since then I've been auto piloting a bit more..

Sometimes I forget how to tell the difference haha, so help me out here.

Both hands are against the same villain. He's a solid player who has been playing a good range of hands in position.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 13.16, PFR: 2.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 39)
MP: 70.6 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 107.1 BB (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 46)
BTN: 90.9 BB (VPIP: 5.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
SB: 49 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 295.41 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 15.13, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 120)
Hero (UTG): 76.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q<font color='black'>♣</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='red'>♥</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) K<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, BB raises to 20 BB, Hero raises to 69.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 49.5 BB

River: (153.5 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='black'>♣</font>

BB shows J<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font> (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 27%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows Q<font color='black'>♣</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font> (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 73%, Turn 23%)
BB wins 150.5 BB


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 51.9 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 101.35 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG+1: 99.3 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 32)
MP: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 93.9 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP+2: 54.34 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 109.65 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 7.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 152)
BTN: 204.79 BB (VPIP: 18.10, PFR: 16.19, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 106)
Hero (SB): 85.12 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font>

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 4 players) T<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (55 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero raises to 63.12 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 63.12 BB

River: (181.24 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font>

BTN shows T<font color='red'>♥</font> T<font color='black'>♣</font> (Full House, Tens full of Sixes)
(Pre 57%, Flop 69%, Turn 70%)
Hero shows A<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 43%, Flop 31%, Turn 30%)
BTN wins 178.24 BB

 

[John A]

So you call the turn then fold the river if he shoves? He could be trying to steal the pot but it's not often that I see fish floating the flop and betting the turn like that. I'm pretty confident I would have been facing a shove on the river.

If they are really fish, then this will very rarely happen. And if it does, then you have someone you can snap off for big bluffs once you suspect they are taking this line.

 

[John A]

I've been running like a three legged dog the past month and I haven't been playing my A game either. I just started a new job a little over a month ago and since then I've been auto piloting a bit more..

Sometimes I forget how to tell the difference haha, so help me out here.

Both hands are against the same villain. He's a solid player who has been playing a good range of hands in position.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 113.1 BB (VPIP: 13.16, PFR: 2.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 39)
MP: 70.6 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 107.1 BB (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 46)
BTN: 90.9 BB (VPIP: 5.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
SB: 49 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 295.41 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 15.13, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 120)
Hero (UTG): 76.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q<font color='black'>♣</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='red'>♥</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) K<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, BB raises to 20 BB, Hero raises to 69.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 49.5 BB

River: (153.5 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='black'>♣</font>

BB shows J<font color='black'>♠</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font> (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 27%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows Q<font color='black'>♣</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font> (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 73%, Turn 23%)
BB wins 150.5 BB

With your stack size, there's really not much more you can do here. It's most profitable to get it in on the turn here vs his range. The silly thing to me is that with all this meme talk lately about players not defending enough in the BB, people are calling so ridiculously wide now. I can't wait to see all of the new BB loss numbers this coming year. I mean, he's tight, but I'd bet a nickle he's calling here because of the current "school of thought" on blind play. But how is it going to be profitable to play a hand vs another regs UTG range OOP as a 2:1 dog vs their range. It's just silly to me.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 51.9 BB (VPIP: 12.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 101.35 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG+1: 99.3 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 32)
MP: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 93.9 BB (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP+2: 54.34 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 109.65 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 7.38, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 152)
BTN: 204.79 BB (VPIP: 18.10, PFR: 16.19, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 106)
Hero (SB): 85.12 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font>

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, BTN raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 4 players) T<font color='black'>♠</font> 6<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (55 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero raises to 63.12 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 63.12 BB

River: (181.24 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font>

BTN shows T<font color='red'>♥</font> T<font color='black'>♣</font> (Full House, Tens full of Sixes)
(Pre 57%, Flop 69%, Turn 70%)
Hero shows A<font color='red'>♦</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 43%, Flop 31%, Turn 30%)
BTN wins 178.24 BB

Any chance if you 3-bet the position raise, you get this hand HU's versus either fish? Or you're just bloating the pot vs several players that won't fold?

I think once you hit your money card, with your stack size and the board, I don't think there's much more you can do. You could bet small on the turn hoping to induce a combo shove, but not sure it makes much difference.