Great looking stats John, thats got to be near perfect for 6 max...
looking forward to your new material..bring it on!
John
Yes I like this a lot, clear concise and well explained.
I recognized the concept straight away from your ebook and admit to have completely forgotten about it, dooh .
I had been thinking on the flop more about the openers and callers perceived ranges for my own cbetting but totally missed the reverse point.
I have been cbetting a lot less on 789 type flops against callers when I've opened with AK AQ hands but clearly openers are going to miss lower dry flops a lot as well. I hadn't considered raising as a caller on these flops I shall implement it straight away.
Makes total sense and this is why we neeeeeed your help.
And although there are a few you have stopped saying "a ton of" quite so much!
Shared on twitter
Meh... new video link (ignore other one):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRdUpp8ObE0
So this series will focus on a lot of little things that make a big difference. I'm going to be adding some comments and examples also from the Polish Poker Workbook when it's complete.
(Full Tilt) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 21, 04:39:21 ET 2014 Table Highwood (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $5.16 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 4.5, Hands: 89
Seat 2: Hero ( $19.83 USD ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AG% 27, Hands: 142
Seat 3: Player3 ( $11.44 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 3.3, Hands: 371
Seat 4: Player4 ( $19.49 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 2.7, Hands: 116
Seat 5: Player5 ( $11.05 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 6, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 361
Seat 6: Player6 ( $11.32 USD ) - VPIP: 9, PFR: 7, 3B: 1, AF: 4.0, Hands: 381
Seat 7: Player7 ( $12.24 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 137
Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.08 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 9, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 283
Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks Ac ]
Player6 raises [$0.40 USD] Villain has EP vpip 7%
Player7 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Hero calls [$0.40 USD] 3 bet here looks mega strong, prefer to call.
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Kh, 8h ]
Player6 bets [$0.50 USD]
Hero calls [$0.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$1.36 USD]
Player6 calls [$1.36 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$1.15 USD] going for that extra bit of value from QQ JJ but I thought he probably has the same as me, AK as played.
Player6 raises [$5.00 USD] OK now I wish id checked behind
Hero ?
(Full Tilt) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 21, 04:39:21 ET 2014 Table Highwood (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $5.16 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 4.5, Hands: 89
Seat 2: Hero ( $19.83 USD ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AG% 27, Hands: 142
Seat 3: Player3 ( $11.44 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 3.3, Hands: 371
Seat 4: Player4 ( $19.49 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 2.7, Hands: 116
Seat 5: Player5 ( $11.05 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 6, 3B: 4, AF: 1.7, Hands: 361
Seat 6: Player6 ( $11.32 USD ) - VPIP: 9, PFR: 7, 3B: 1, AF: 4.0, Hands: 381
Seat 7: Player7 ( $12.24 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 137
Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.08 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 9, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 283
Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks Ac ]
Player6 raises [$0.40 USD] Villain has EP vpip 7%
Player7 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Hero calls [$0.40 USD] 3 bet here looks mega strong, prefer to call.
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, Kh, 8h ]
Player6 bets [$0.50 USD]
Hero calls [$0.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$1.36 USD]
Player6 calls [$1.36 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
Player6 checks
Hero bets [$1.15 USD] going for that extra bit of value from QQ JJ but I thought he probably has the same as me, AK as played.
Player6 raises [$5.00 USD] OK now I wish id checked behind
Hero ?
Players that tight rarely bluff rivers and probably never check raise rivers as a bluff. I would put him on 88, KK, or AA.
Ok should we check behind here OTR or not bearing in mind how tight he is?
If we are betting thin value, how much do you recommend?
He was opening 7% from EP.
The way he played it checking the turn and river it didn't strike me as having something that can beat TPTK. If he did he was taking a chance me not betting either street and losing value.
RESULT Anyway I called he flipped over AA...
Noted however how often can you expect someone turning an A top pair into a bluff on the river on 10nl? Isn't this a pretty advanced move?I'd be careful with never... I would instead say rarely. The problem here is that hero bet small on the river, so it will open up the bluffing range just a crack. This guy is really tight, but he is aggressive enough. You're going to be beaten a lot of the time here though.
I'd agree at the micros, he would need a great read of opponent also having AK and trying to take him off itNoted however how often can you expect someone turning an A top pair into a bluff on the river on 10nl? Isn't this a pretty advanced move?
Noted however how often can you expect someone turning an A top pair into a bluff on the river on 10nl? Isn't this a pretty advanced move?
Taking it away from the raiser on a low flop.
I know this was a 3 bet pot but most of his 3 betting was from the button and I thought the play would work here, cannot see him hitting this flop and I don't want to just call and see an overcard and it looks like my best way to win the hand.
(Poker Stars) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 23, 04:12:19 ET 2014
Table Aspidiske II (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $9.42 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 109
Seat 2: Player2 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 4, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 25
Seat 3: Player3 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 8, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 150
Seat 5: Player5 ( $16.89 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 5, AF: 1.5, Hands: 60
Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.45 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 5, AF: 4.5, Hands: 444
Seat 7: Player7 ( $10.15 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 14, 3B: 8, AF: 13.0, Hands: 196
Seat 8: Player8 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 16, 3B: 10, AF: 0.0, Hands: 19
Seat 9: Hero ( $10.50 USD ) - VPIP:16 , PFR15: , 3B:7.9 , AG% 45, Hands:103
Player6 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player7 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ts Th ]
Player8 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player5 raises [$0.90 USD]
Player6 folds
Player7 folds
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, 7s, 4s ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [$1.20 USD]
Hero raises [$3.10 USD]
Player5 folds
Hero wins $1.90 USD
Hero wins $4.15 USD from main pot
Just a short 10nl session but more like my A game
Well, he's not just turning top pair into a bluff though. We're saying if he ever does this with a hand like AQs, which can and does happen. The question, and I blog about this exact subject is, how often does he do it?
Give it a read if you haven't already:
http://acepokersolutions.com/poker-blog/the-great-divide-weighting-hand-ranges-in-poker/
Great read, thanks!
seem to find myself in this spot alot, should i just be trying to get to showdown in position wit mediocre hand against aggressor or is it player dependent,
i.e. passive Aggression then easy bet/fold on turn when checked too for second time
My initial raise 3 bet preflop was a misclick wsa going to raise 70c
***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Poker Stars)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 28, 05:51:56 ET 2014
Table Klinkenberg 2 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $9.65 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 1.9, Hands: 45402
Seat 2: Player2 ( $45.87 USD ) - VPIP: 27, PFR: 18, 3B: 5, AF: 1.6, Hands: 51
Seat 3: Player3 ( $9.05 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 20
Seat 4: Player4 ( $31.41 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 33, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 3
Seat 5: Player5 ( $11.14 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 52
Seat 6: Player6 ( $9.90 USD ) - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 5
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js 9s ]
Player4 raises [$0.20 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.40 USD]
Player2 folds
Player3 folds
Player4 raises [$0.80 USD]
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 5c, 2h ]
Player4 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
Player4 checks
Hero bets [$1.02 USD]
Player4 raises [$3.04 USD]