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Yes yourgoodmate....aggro is the right word for your two AJ hands...not sure about the first one though, cannot see are you going to get him off a king looks a bit spewy that 1st one but the 2nd one looks fine..

I actually won one hand and lost one, not saying which yet mind.

I figured I would maybe hear from a King on the turn. The flush also misses so I think this works often enough to be profitable but my maths on this side of the game is poor.
 
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first AJ- hes calling every king folding everything else so i think something closer to 40bb is better.
second AJ- looks spewy to me. again if you have them pegged for a FD, no need to jam
 
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first AJ- hes calling every king folding everything else so i think something closer to 40bb is better.
second AJ- looks spewy to me. again if you have them pegged for a FD, no need to jam

I think the reason I jammed was to blow them off a king. Youd be surprised how often it works.

Maybe you're right with the sizing but Im a believer that size matters :D
 
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Im surprised too that there aren't more, maybe the length of the thread at 35 pages.

My biggest regret not being in from the start i dipped in and out as didnt have the time with other commitments.

Probably best way to learn to discuss even whether right or wrong and as you say you was the guiding sounding board along the way

Not sure if different threads for different parts of the game would have helped. Would have been easier to navigate

Yeah, true. But you can jump in at any time. You don't need to follow the whole thread. Just read the book and post questions.

I hear what you're saying though. It can look a little overwhelming.
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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BTN: 50.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 108 BB (VPIP: 19.30, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 59)
Hero (BB): 117.8 BB
UTG: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 188)
MP: 131.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 101.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.4 BB, CO calls 4.4 BB

Flop: (13.2 BB, 2 players) 4 K 8
Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Turn: (31.2 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB

River: (73.2 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 52.6 BB

It's probably pretty close. There's a little more of a chance he has a K in his hand because of 3-bet sizing and position. If the 3-bet was a little larger it would cut it down a bit. At these stakes, and the positioning, you're probably looking at a wide enough range to get him to fold for it to be profitable. I'm not a huge fan of trying to get these kinds of guys to fold 99/TT type hands on this kind of run out, but it's probably marginally profitable.
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): 142.8 BB
SB: 108 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 130.6 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 281.2 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 7.81, Hands: 171)
MP: 106.2 BB (VPIP: 22.39, PFR: 17.91, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 71)
CO: 115 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 6 5 K
SB checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Turn: (21 BB, 3 players) T
SB checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB, fold

River: (76 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 111.8 BB and is all-in

I think I'd just dump or raise the flop since you're MW. I wouldn't advise floating MW like this very often.

I like the turn raise. And I think the river shove is good. SB is clearly a fish and he has way more draws in his range than Kx. So sometimes he has Kx and calls it off, sometimes he even folds it (unlikely that these stakes), and most of the time he folds his open ender. flush draw or gutter.
 
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***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Full Tilt)
$10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, October 06, 12:07:13 ET 2014
Table Flab (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $12.97 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 39
Seat 2: Player2 ( $12.04 USD ) - VPIP: 41, PFR: 33, 3B: 18, AF: 11.0, Hands: 39
Seat 3: Player3 ( $14.70 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 8, 3B: 5, AF: 5.0, Hands: 39
Seat 4: Hero ( $8.97 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 11, 3B: 4, AF: 2.0, Hands: 11812
Seat 5: Player5 ( $9.90 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 2.3, Hands: 47
Seat 6: Player6 ( $5.23 USD ) - VPIP: 37, PFR: 20, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 35
Player5 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Td 9d ]
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$0.35 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero calls [$0.35 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 8d, 2s ]
Player2 bets [$0.60 USD]
Hero calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
Player2 bets [$1.85 USD]
Hero calls [$1.85 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
Player2 checks
Hero ??

How much do i bet the river? or do I check back? or Raise Flop? or Shove Turn?

Yes, raise the flop. You have the open ender and back door diamonds. If you just call here, against someone who looks to be a little hyper aggressive, then you're going to be in the same spot on the turn more often than not. If you raise the flop, most of the time you'll get folds and calls versus re-raises. If you get a call, then you can also check the turn if you want and give yourself the chance to fully realize your equity. Those are two important points.

I'd give up on the river. Your hand doesn't make much sense to shove, and this kind of guy will call you down with a deuce.
 
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Rhombus: although we have a small hand sample he does seem aggressive. I'd jam the turn but I'm an aggro donk. I think calling turn and betting the river is fine.

Rhom: he is very aggressive so calling looks ok, but as soon as he checks the river it looks to me like he thinks he's beat. You have to bet the river to win the hand, id go for 75% pot which looks like value rather than a shove.
If he was less aggro you could raise flop or turn and likely get a free card or two....

AS he was aggro i was surprised at what he had I bet $2.20 on the river and he called with KK.

Would have possily bet more nut put him on Suited Ace or other flush draw
 

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I think I'd just dump or raise the flop since you're MW. I wouldn't advise floating MW like this very often.

I like the turn raise. And I think the river shove is good. SB is clearly a fish and he has way more draws in his range than Kx. So sometimes he has Kx and calls it off, sometimes he even folds it (unlikely that these stakes), and most of the time he folds his open ender. flush draw or gutter.

If I remember right, I floated because it looked like a weak bet. I figured I could easily push him off his hand if the SB wasn't in the way. Maybe this is a leak.
 
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(Full Tilt) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, October 05, 06:24:18 ET 2014
Table Ox (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 9, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 1249
Seat 2: Player2 ( $6.80 USD ) - VPIP: 64, PFR: 9, 3B: 10, AF: 1.2, Hands: 33
Seat 3: Player3 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 2.0, Hands: 547
Seat 4: Hero ( $11.15 USD )
Seat 5: Player5 ( $23.95 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 9, 3B: 5, AF: 3.6, Hands: 196
Seat 6: Player6 ( $7.63 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: 1.7, Hands: 49
Seat 8: Player8 ( $3.67 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 10, 3B: 5, AF: 2.6, Hands: 321
Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3, Hands: 139
Player2 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc Kd ]
Hero raises [$0.25 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [$0.20 USD]
Player3 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 3h, 2d ]
Player2 checks
Hero checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8h ]
Player2 bets [$0.20 USD]
Hero calls [$0.20 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
Player2 bets [$0.10 USD]
Hero raises [$0.94 USD]
Player2 raises [$6.25 USD]
Puke.

Just bet the flop. The only reason you check here is if you are planning on calling 2 streets because your opponent is aggressive enough to bluff. I mean the turn looks like a donkey draw bet. And the river an inducer. His hand range is going to be leaning so heavily towards flush draw because of his stats, how the hand was played, and open raise sizing that he call, it's pretty crazy. I don't think call here would be horrible, but I don't think he's bluffing almost ever. You're more hoping that he shoves some 2 pair or set, which is possible, BUT these guys tend to also be scared of flushes too much and won't tend to shove into potential ones. So the bottom line is I like the river raise, and I'd probably fold just given all of the evidence in the hand.
 
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If I remember right, I floated because it looked like a weak bet. I figured I could easily push him off his hand if the SB wasn't in the way. Maybe this is a leak.

Yeah, I think this is too advanced for 5nl imho. People will find a reason to be in the pot if the bet is weak and you call. So you'll have to push 2 people out which is much more difficult and generally unprofitable.
 
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1st hand

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ A♦

fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.4 BB, CO calls 4.4 BB

Flop: (13.2 BB, 2 players) 4♠ K♣ 8♣
Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Turn: (31.2 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB

River: (73.2 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 52.6 BB

Dont think I would have bet the river as you have showdown value with top non paired hand and I reckon he has somethng like KJ

2nd hand

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ J♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 5♦ K♠
SB checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Turn: (21 BB, 3 players) T♥
SB checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB, fold

River: (76 BB, 2 players) T♣
SB checks, Hero bets 111.8 BB and is all-in

Raise on Turn ok although wont have bet as much
Like the all in on the river.

When they weakbet turn looks like weak Ten or flush draw but when they check River has draw written all over it like flush draw or JQ
 
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1st hand I got a fold. So no showdown.

2nd hand villain had 55. Horrible slow play imo on such a wet board. Bear in mind my river all in was only pot sized. Villain didn't have as large a stack as I did.
 
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I presume this one is a fold but thought I should double check. Also do you think I should bet? I checked behind because I really felt he was setting a trap.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 147.8 BB
SB: 178 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 23.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 144)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 308)
MP: 163.6 BB (VPIP: 12.42, PFR: 9.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.02, Hands: 462)
CO: 145.6 BB (VPIP: 23.93, PFR: 17.79, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 164)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:heart:

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: Q:club: 3:heart:
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (49.4 BB, 2 players) J:club:
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, CO raises to 121.6 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 85.6 BB
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.93, PFR: 13.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 211)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 58)
BB: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 156 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
MP: 235.4 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.14, Hands: 431)
Hero (CO): 109.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:heart: 9:heart:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J:club: 7:diamond: 6:heart:
SB bets 12.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB

Turn: (44.2 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
SB bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB

River: (86.6 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 66.6 BB and is all-in

I definitely think I should be raising the turn here.
 
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I presume this one is a fold but thought I should double check. Also do you think I should bet? I checked behind because I really felt he was setting a trap.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 147.8 BB
SB: 178 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 23.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 144)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 308)
MP: 163.6 BB (VPIP: 12.42, PFR: 9.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.02, Hands: 462)
CO: 145.6 BB (VPIP: 23.93, PFR: 17.79, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 164)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 6 Q 3
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (49.4 BB, 2 players) J
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) K
CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, CO raises to 121.6 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 85.6 BB

No, I would have just bet this flop this deep. There's going to be a much wider 4-bet range in this spot with this kind of opponent. He's almost 10% 3-bet, he opens from the CO and you 3-bet from the button. He's going to try and 4-bet bluff here often enough that you might as well take down the equity on the flop. I don't think the flop check is bad, but you're likely going to face a bullet on the turn so you'll be stuck calling A high a lot in a 4-bet pot. As played, I'd just simplify and fire the turn as well. At this point you want to push him off a split. On the river I'd just raise more to reduce his bluffing range. Raise to 27~. He played it really goofy, but you're not going to stack off with tptk here on the river.
 
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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.93, PFR: 13.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 211)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 58)
BB: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 156 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
MP: 235.4 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.14, Hands: 431)
Hero (CO): 109.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A 9

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J 7 6
SB bets 12.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB

Turn: (44.2 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB

River: (86.6 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 66.6 BB and is all-in

I definitely think I should be raising the turn here.

Yeah, I'd usually raise this turn. You'll get enough folds for it to be profitable. I think as played it will be hard for him to call with Jx,QQ,TT type hands. I think this is a good opponent spot to bluff. Your hand doesn't look like a draw too much because of the flop and board run out.
 
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Thanks. I agree with both. I know I need to work on these 3 bet pots more than anything. I lose my bottle in some hands and I'm pretty sure it's costing me a nice boost to WR.
 
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Straight flush V quad aces....sweet

Shame it was on a small table against a fish with only a Euro to his name.
I was railing a league match so was just messing around at 2-4 on ipoker.
 

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PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 159 BB
SB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 52)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.39, PFR: 8.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 135)
UTG: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 182.4 BB (VPIP: 61.54, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 192.6 BB (VPIP: 17.44, PFR: 11.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 87)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:heart: A:club:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, SB calls 11 BB

Flop: (43 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 5:diamond: K:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 26 BB, SB calls 26 BB

Turn: (95 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 112 BB and is all-in

All good? Trying to blow him off high PP's here.
 
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Preflop looks standard with good sizing on the 4 bet to get away from it if he shoves. The 4 bet is fine with him already looking like an agro 3 bettor preflop.
I don't understand why anyone wants to call a 4 bet oop and give you the initiative here, he must have a hand of some value id range range him 77, 88, 99 (blocker), TT, JJ, AQ AJ and maybe at a push KQs, KJs.
with this range I wouldn't be going away to a single barrel unless its a big one, might we consider a bigger cbet on the flop with it being such a dry board?
It would to tough to call with anything less than Kx to a pot sized c bet.
As played I like the shove to the turn check, id fully expect him to fold everything but a decent king and we don't have many in his range. I'm presuming AK would have 5 bet pre.
 
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can't find the fold button

(IPoker) €4.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 07, 09:19:00 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 15q (real money) This is 6 handed
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €6.31 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 1811
Seat 3: Player3 ( €4.05 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 43
Seat 5: Player5 ( €5.13 EUR ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 22, 3B: 3, AF: 2.4, Hands: 218
Seat 6: Player6 ( €9.29 EUR ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AG% 17, Hands: 64
Seat 8: Player8 ( €3.22 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 226
Seat 10: Hero ( €5.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AG% 40, Hands: 124
Player3 posts small blind [€0.02 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.04 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 8h ]
Player6 raises [€0.16 EUR]
Player8 folds
Hero calls [€0.16 EUR] Villian is a fish I'm calling here as there is another fish player 5 in the BB behind, squeezing just doesn't happen at these tables.
Player1 folds
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 8s, 2c ]
Player6 bets [€0.26 EUR]
Hero raises [€0.81 EUR]
Player6 calls [€0.55 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ] horrid card
Player6 checks
Hero bets [€0.80 EUR]
Player6 raises [€3.08 EUR]
OK He has no agg level at all so i'm beat here,,,,I know i.m beat, i feel it all the way to my toes so why can't I fold in these spots?? Its like I just want to see it to confirm it.:eek:
 
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Preflop looks standard with good sizing on the 4 bet to get away from it if he shoves. The 4 bet is fine with him already looking like an agro 3 bettor preflop.
I don't understand why anyone wants to call a 4 bet oop and give you the initiative here, he must have a hand of some value id range range him 77, 88, 99 (blocker), TT, JJ, AQ AJ and maybe at a push KQs, KJs.
with this range I wouldn't be going away to a single barrel unless its a big one, might we consider a bigger cbet on the flop with it being such a dry board?
It would to tough to call with anything less than Kx to a pot sized c bet.
As played I like the shove to the turn check, id fully expect him to fold everything but a decent king and we don't have many in his range. I'm presuming AK would have 5 bet pre.

If I c-bet larger then my turn bet is irrelevant because Ill have such a small bet behind.
 
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Shame it was on a small table against a fish with only a Euro to his name.
I was railing a league match so was just messing around at 2-4 on ipoker.

Whoa serious bad beat action happening.

Man, I'm still crying about not hitting one of these when bad beat jackpots were popular online and frequently hit over 500k.
 
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