Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[Figaroo2]

Line checks

Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players (other players stats removed)

Hero (BB): $30 (100 bb)
MP1: $54.54 (181.8 bb) tag reg 18/16
MP3: $48.55 (161.8 bb)VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 369 fishy

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♦ T♥
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.90, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.85) 8♠ 8♦ 8♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $1.42, Hero calls $1.42, MP1 folds

Turn: ($5.69) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.84, MP3 calls $2.84 (don't want him checking smaller pairs behind that I can get value from)

River: ($11.37) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $5.68, MP3 calls $5.68

Focusing on his underpairs. Squeeze pre? Maybe check check call it down the whole way?

Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players (other players stats removed)

Hero (UTG+1): $30 (100 bb)
MP3: $30 (100 bb) Semi Maniac VPIP: 54, PFR: 33, 3B: 15, AF: 3.4, hands: 136

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ J♣
MP1 posts BB OOP, MP3 posts BB OOP, Hero raises to $1.65, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.35, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.05) K♠ 4♦ K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.12, MP3 calls $1.12

Turn: ($6.29) Q♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $6.29, Hero calls $6.29
(Lead turn? I do pick up the FD, after t I check he's looking for a fold, so I don't, but don't like it very much, river is going to be tricky)

River: ($18.87) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $20.94 and is all-in, Hero?

 

[John A]

Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players (other players stats removed)

Hero (BB): $30 (100 bb)
MP1: $54.54 (181.8 bb) tag reg 18/16
MP3: $48.55 (161.8 bb)VPIP: 26, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AF: 2.5, Hands: 369 fishy

Preflop: Hero is BB with T♦ T♥
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.90, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.90, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.85) 8♠ 8♦ 8♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $1.42, Hero calls $1.42, MP1 folds

Turn: ($5.69) 5♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.84, MP3 calls $2.84 (don't want him checking smaller pairs behind that I can get value from)

River: ($11.37) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $5.68, MP3 calls $5.68

Focusing on his underpairs. Squeeze pre? Maybe check check call it down the whole way?

Well, I think you know how I feel about these spots. On the river, if you're going to call a bet, then might as well set the pricing yourself. He's not going to have a ton of bluffs, so it's just a matter of whether he wants to call w/ AK, small pairs and 5x. So I'd probably bet ~ $5 and fold to a raise. He's fishy, so I think that's the best approach is just bet the turn and river like you did.

Pacific, $0.15/$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players (other players stats removed)

Hero (UTG+1): $30 (100 bb)
MP3: $30 (100 bb) Semi Maniac VPIP: 54, PFR: 33, 3B: 15, AF: 3.4, Hands: 136

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ J♣
MP1 posts BB OOP, MP3 posts BB OOP, Hero raises to $1.65, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.35, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.05) K♠ 4♦ K♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $1.12, MP3 calls $1.12

Turn: ($6.29) Q♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $6.29, Hero calls $6.29
(Lead turn? I do pick up the FD, after t I check he's looking for a fold, so I don't, but don't like it very much, river is going to be tricky)

River: ($18.87) 9♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $20.94 and is all-in, Hero?

Just check the flop vs. maniac. Let them hand themselves. I don't hate betting, but bet a little more. As played, yes, just bet turn again. On river, it's a flip a coin spot vs. someone like this. I'd lean towards a fold, but it's close. Betting the turn would have made this play a little easier.

 

[John A]

If you apply a range of say
JJ,33-22,KTs,QJs,T9s,54s
You have 33% equity you can likely remove some cmbos of JJ that 3bet pre so your probably closer to 35% equity.If you add AQ though your equity drops off to 24% .So i'm kind of unsure about the hand in all honesty.Do you not assign villain AQ here ?.

I discounted AQ. Think he's probably doing a normal size VB around 25ish there w/ AQ since the best he's really hoping for is a split most of the time. The range you put up is a bit too tight though. You have to add in a few other mid pairs, AT/89, few randoms.

 

[Figaroo2]

Sizing checks

***** 888poker Hand History for Game 607844374 *****
$0.50/$1 Blinds No Limit Holdem Jackpot table - ***
Table Burgas 10 Max (real money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Clueless Fish ( $44.05 )
Seat 3: Good Reg ( $100 )
Seat 4: XXXX ( $117.92 )
Seat 5: figaroo2 ( $106.81 )
Seat 7: XXXX( $120.48 )
Seat 8: XXXX ( $100 )
Seat 9: XXXX ( $46.50 )
Seat 10: XXXX ( $113.08 )
xxxx posts small blind [$0.50]
figaroo2 posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to figaroo2 [ 7h, Th ]
folds
folds
folds
folds
Fish calls [$1]
Reg raises [$3]
SB folds
figaroo2 calls [$2]
Fish calls [$2]
** Dealing flop ** [ 3h, 8h, 9c]
figaroo2 checks (looking to CR)
Fish checks
Reg bets [$4.75]
(POT $15.25)
figaroo2 raises [$14.25] Sizing? Hindsight I like $16-18
Fish folds
Reg calls [$9.50]
** Dealing turn ** [ 3c ]
(Pot $39)
figaroo2 bets [$17] Sizing? Don't want it to look like I'm looking for a fold.
Reg calls [$17]
** Dealing river ** [ 2h ]
(Pot $73)
figaroo2 bets [$43] Sizing? Shove?
If he calls 43 he probably call a shove?
So I'm thinking smaller to get a call from an overpair or a shove to target sets.

I have also been asked what is the best line if we had a set on the flop and a heart comes on the turn?

 

[Figaroo2]

Looking at the hand again the 3 pairs the board on the turn so I dislike my river sizing even more. Two pair is never calling that river sizing. Nothing worse is calling so maybe $20 to try and get calls from JJ TT A9 K9 Q9 J9 T9

 

[seeyouthru]

Looking at the hand again the 3 pairs the board on the turn so I dislike my river sizing even more. Two pair is never calling that river sizing. Nothing worse is calling so maybe $20 to try and get calls from JJ TT A9 K9 Q9 J9 T9

Really Really Depends on Opponent.
if he is a calling station he can call a shove also!

 

[John A]

***** 888poker Hand History for Game 607844374 *****
$0.50/$1 Blinds No Limit Holdem Jackpot table - ***
Table Burgas 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: Clueless Fish ( $44.05 )
Seat 3: Good Reg ( $100 )
Seat 4: XXXX ( $117.92 )
Seat 5: figaroo2 ( $106.81 )
Seat 7: XXXX( $120.48 )
Seat 8: XXXX ( $100 )
Seat 9: XXXX ( $46.50 )
Seat 10: XXXX ( $113.08 )
xxxx posts small blind [$0.50]
figaroo2 posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to figaroo2 [ 7h, Th ]
folds
folds
folds
folds
Fish calls [$1]
Reg raises [$3]
SB folds
figaroo2 calls [$2]
Fish calls [$2]
** Dealing flop ** [ 3h, 8h, 9c]
figaroo2 checks (looking to CR)
Fish checks
Reg bets [$4.75]
(POT $15.25)
figaroo2 raises [$14.25] Sizing? Hindsight I like $16-18
Fish folds
Reg calls [$9.50]
** Dealing turn ** [ 3c ]
(Pot $39)
figaroo2 bets [$17] Sizing? Don't want it to look like I'm looking for a fold.
Reg calls [$17]
** Dealing river ** [ 2h ]
(Pot $73)
figaroo2 bets [$43] Sizing? Shove?
If he calls 43 he probably call a shove?
So I'm thinking smaller to get a call from an overpair or a shove to target sets.

I have also been asked what is the best line if we had a set on the flop and a heart comes on the turn?

I'm just calling the flop to try and keep the fish in. That's such a wet board for a fish, that they'll have a ton to continue with. As played, yes, a little larger of a raise.

I check the paired turn. What hands do you think are folding to that bet? What does the bet accomplish?

River sizing, not very clear on your reasoning. Why are you targeting sets? There really shouldn't be any sets here and if there are, that's not good for you. Sizing on he river is very opponent dependent. In a wind tunnel I like ~35.

 

[Alucard]

iPoker - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): 273.9 BB
SB: 81 BB (VPIP: 53.57, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 29)
BB: 70 BB (VPIP: 23.18, PFR: 18.80, 3Bet Preflop: 2.21, Hands: 624)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.51, PFR: 12.83, 3Bet Preflop: 4.72, Hands: 2,505)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7c Kh
fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB calls 2 BB, fold

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) 8s 6c 7s
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn : (6 BB, 2 players) 3c
SB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

River : (14 BB, 2 players) Ks
SB bets 10.9 BB,


do we bluff catch here vs a likely passive fish?
his wtsd - 36%
wsd - 4/4
af - 0
short sample


vs a reg I'd very likely call this but not sure vs this one. I don' think he's bluffing & can't really think he'd value bet 2pair on this river

 

[John A]

Against a passive fish, just go ahead and bet the flop. You can check the turn if you want, but betting the flop you're doing it mostly to protect your equity and prevent a lot of bad turns.

And yes, you call the river. A lot of worse hands he could be betting for value also - K6, 78, 76, 86. So your hand isn't just a bluff catcher.

 

[Alucard]

pokerstars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 25.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 27.08, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 50)
BB: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 64)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 182.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kd Ac
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

Flop : (43.5 BB, 2 players) 2s 4c 5c
Hero checks, BTN bets 14.1 BB, Hero raises to 161.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 71.4 BB and is all-in


Quite interested of your thoughts in this. Does the x jam looks too bluffy & heavily AK? In that case do we bet bet jam on all boards?
I assigned a range with a couple of bluffs & we have good equity vs that range

 

[Alucard]

http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 2s4c5c
Equity Win Tie
CO 47.33% 40.14% 7.19% { AcKd }
BU 52.67% 45.47% 7.19% { AA, JJ-TT, AQs+, KQs }

 

[John A]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 25.49, PFR: 25.49, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 27.08, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 50)
BB: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 64)
MP: 101.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (CO): 182.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kd Ac
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

Flop : (43.5 BB, 2 players) 2s 4c 5c
Hero checks, BTN bets 14.1 BB, Hero raises to 161.5 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 71.4 BB and is all-in


Quite interested of your thoughts in this. Does the x jam looks too bluffy & heavily AK? In that case do we bet bet jam on all boards?
I assigned a range with a couple of bluffs & we have good equity vs that range

It does look Ax heavy and bluffy, but it's still profitable. If you can get some AK to fold, your EV really goes up. So it just depends how much variance you want really. I don't mind a c/c either. CRAI here is fine, just make sure you note that and that you're including JJ+ in your CRAI range in a similar spot.

 

[Alucard]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 113.8 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 53)
SB: 88.6 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 19.54, PFR: 16.09, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 88)
UTG: 36.7 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (MP): 134.3 BB
CO: 116.7 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8d 8c
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop : (28.5 BB, 3 players) 4s Qh 7h
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn : (28.5 BB, 3 players) 4d
UTG checks, Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB, UTG calls 15 BB

River : (73.5 BB, 3 players) 8h
UTG bets 12.7 BB and is all-in,

river play? can't decide the sizing. BTN likely has Ts or Js

 

[Alucard]

Hmmmm... I'd venture somewhere between flat - 30bb depending.. It's horrible if BTN comes over the top which would perhaps be an argument to re-shove, but that doesn't help when BTN has QQ or 44..

This is based on what I'd perhaps do in the situation, being a mathless-creature what the numbers would instruct is unknown to me.

If this shows some blatant ignorance please do let me know! ^^

it's not horrible if BTN shoves over us because very unlikely he has QQ or 44. QQ would probably bet flop to charge draws & 4s would very unlikely 3bet pre vs UTG+MP & would bet flop most definitely.
So we want him to shove over us infact which is highly unlikely unless he has a heart combo

 

[Viparida]

Congratulations, man! I will take a look at this. For sure it will help a lot of people.

 

[John A]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: 113.8 BB (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 15.09, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 53)
SB: 88.6 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 19.54, PFR: 16.09, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 88)
UTG: 36.7 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (MP): 134.3 BB
CO: 116.7 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8d 8c
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop : (28.5 BB, 3 players) 4s Qh 7h
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn : (28.5 BB, 3 players) 4d
UTG checks, Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB, UTG calls 15 BB

River : (73.5 BB, 3 players) 8h
UTG bets 12.7 BB and is all-in,

river play? can't decide the sizing. BTN likely has Ts or Js

Yeah, it's going to be difficult to get them to call nearly any sized raise. I'd go small to around 30-35 just to give them sick odds and hope they make a crying call.

 

[Figaroo2]

River shove?

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $1.0(BB)
MP2 ($100.0) [VPIP: 21.3% | PFR: 10.6% | AGG: 28.8% | 3-Bet: 3.6% | Hands: 141]
HJ ($264.22) [VPIP: 34% | PFR: 22.6% | AGG: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 4.5% | Hands: 55]
CO ($36.57) [VPIP: 49.4% | PFR: 30.6% | AGG: 38% | 3-Bet: 3.3% | Hands: 183]
BTN ($110.53) [VPIP: 12.6% | PFR: 9.9% | AGG: 30.2% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | Hands: 1137]
SB ($44.60) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 14.7% | AGG: 32.8% | 3-Bet: 8.8% | Hands: 501]
HERO ($216.04)
UTG ($100.0) [VPIP: 19.9% | PFR: 6.8% | AGG: 22.2% | 3-Bet: 2.7% | Hands: 888]
EP ($125.20) [VPIP: 31% | PFR: 17.2% | AGG: 14.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 29]
MP1 ($118.39) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 15.5% | AGG: 34.5% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 1220]

Dealt to Hero: K♠ T♠

UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP1 Folds, MP2 Raises To $3, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $2

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.92 effective]
Flop ($6.50): J♣ 9♠ 7♥
HERO Checks, MP2 Bets $4.33 (Rem. Stack: 92.67), HERO Raises To $15.91 (Rem. Stack: 197.13), MP2 Calls $11.58 (Rem. Stack: 81.09)

Turn ($38.32): J♣ 9♠ 7♥ T♥
HERO Bets $19.16 (Rem. Stack: 177.97), MP2 Calls $19.16 (Rem. Stack: 61.93)

River ($76.64): J♣ 9♠ 7♥ T♥ 9♣
HERO?

 

[John A]

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $1.0(BB)
MP2 ($100.0) [VPIP: 21.3% | PFR: 10.6% | AGG: 28.8% | 3-Bet: 3.6% | Hands: 141]
HJ ($264.22) [VPIP: 34% | PFR: 22.6% | AGG: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 4.5% | Hands: 55]
CO ($36.57) [VPIP: 49.4% | PFR: 30.6% | AGG: 38% | 3-Bet: 3.3% | Hands: 183]
BTN ($110.53) [VPIP: 12.6% | PFR: 9.9% | AGG: 30.2% | 3-Bet: 5.3% | Hands: 1137]
SB ($44.60) [VPIP: 17.3% | PFR: 14.7% | AGG: 32.8% | 3-Bet: 8.8% | Hands: 501]
HERO ($216.04)
UTG ($100.0) [VPIP: 19.9% | PFR: 6.8% | AGG: 22.2% | 3-Bet: 2.7% | Hands: 888]
EP ($125.20) [VPIP: 31% | PFR: 17.2% | AGG: 14.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 29]
MP1 ($118.39) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 15.5% | AGG: 34.5% | 3-Bet: 6.6% | Hands: 1220]

Dealt to Hero: K♠ T♠

UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP1 Folds, MP2 Raises To $3, HJ Folds, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, HERO Calls $2

Hero SPR on Flop: [14.92 effective]
Flop ($6.50): J♣ 9♠ 7♥
HERO Checks, MP2 Bets $4.33 (Rem. Stack: 92.67), HERO Raises To $15.91 (Rem. Stack: 197.13), MP2 Calls $11.58 (Rem. Stack: 81.09)

Turn ($38.32): J♣ 9♠ 7♥ T♥
HERO Bets $19.16 (Rem. Stack: 177.97), MP2 Calls $19.16 (Rem. Stack: 61.93)

River ($76.64): J♣ 9♠ 7♥ T♥ 9♣
HERO?

I don't generally recommend CR's OOP on these kinds of heavily connected boards unless you have a big draw for exactly this reason. IP, I don't mind a small raise.

On river you don't have enough to bluff (you'd have to go pot or larger), and don't think what you have left will get to get Jx+ to fold enough. You're mostly facing a strong Jx, JT, 98 (little bit), TT, QQ+. You have to check and let it go. You're likely not winning at showdown of course.

 

[prizzy711]

Man. I just found this thread. A gold mine.

 

[Lezaleas]

John
I'd like to incorporate a few flop lead outs from oop and am unclear around the best boards/opponents to do this. At the moment I really only lead out with strong made hands when the board favours the openers range.

Yesterday I opened AJos in MP on a FR table and was called by one of the blinds. Flop 38T rainbow. He donks full pot and I folded pretty quickly where I might have Cbet or certainly delayed cbet. So clearly if he gets me to lay this down when he has worse this is +ev for him.

I presume you could lead out on boards like the above which favour the caller, instead of bluff check raising after the in position player cbets which I do a fair amount on these boards against slightly looser regs.
Players are bound to call less if they haven't invested anything other than the initial raise. Thoughts?

If villain is leading after calling from the blinds a lot (or a 3 bet, or whenever his range is weaker),
then either he's doing it mostly as a bluff and we can exploit accordingly,
or his check range is extremely weak (his range was weaker to begin with, and now he's using his strong hands to lead). We can then heavily bluff and/or bomb the pot for value whenever he checks

 

[John A]

If villain is leading after calling from the blinds a lot (or a 3 bet, or whenever his range is weaker),
then either he's doing it mostly as a bluff and we can exploit accordingly,
or his check range is extremely weak (his range was weaker to begin with, and now he's using his strong hands to lead). We can then heavily bluff and/or bomb the pot for value whenever he checks

Yeah, we've gone over a good amount of material on this, but some of the best boards are T high or lower when your opponent will have a slightly stronger to even hand range you can get to fold, and your hand isn't something you're looking to check / call or check down with. And example spot using Fig's board would be:

CO opens, and you defends in the BB w/ KJs.

Flop is 3 8 T rainbow.

You have one, maybe two back door draws if there's one of your suit, but you don't really want to check/call this hand down. If your opponent folds Ax+ here, that's a high EV donk spot. You just want to make sure if you're building history w/ someone that you're not over doing your donks so you don't get exploited.

 

[Alucard]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 64.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
BB: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 27.56, PFR: 21.87, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 2,470)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 186)
MP: 246.65 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 107 BB (VPIP: 35.21, PFR: 27.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 636)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7d 8d
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (9.5 BB, 3 players) 7c 7h Kd
BB bets 6.65 BB, UTG calls 6.65 BB, Hero calls 6.65 BB

Turn : (29.45 BB, 3 players) Jc
BB bets 20.6 BB, UTG calls 20.6 BB, fold

River : (70.65 BB, 2 players) Th
BB bets 86.95 BB, fold




Bruce told me this is too tight a fold on turn. I think it's fine. BB is a good reg. UTG is nitty without much spew.
BB has only donked trips before this as per my notes.
I think the 7x combos that beat us are far more than the ones we beat

 

[Figaroo2]

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $1.0(BB)
SB ($99.15) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 13.7% | AGG: 35.5% | 3-Bet: 6.3% | Hands: 976]
BB HERO ($100.0)
UTG ($118.64) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 13.1% | AGG: 29.1% | 3-Bet: 3.7% | Hands: 518]
MP ($25.50) [VPIP: 30.5% | PFR: 1.5% | AGG: 13.1% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 202]
HJ ($110.60) [VPIP: 15.7% | PFR: 11.2% | AGG: 25.2% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | Hands: 492]
CO ($127.83) [VPIP: 14.7% | PFR: 10.5% | AGG: 35.1% | 3-Bet: 3% | Hands: 895]
BTN ($132.68) [VPIP: 19% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 34% | 3-Bet: 6.8% | Hands: 1314]

Dealt to Hero: 5♠ 3♠

UTG Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $2.66, BTN Calls $2.66, SB Folds, HERO Calls $1.66
Normally I just fold pre here, but I'd been very quiet on this table and fancied defending to this cheap price.

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.48 effective]
Flop ($8.48): 3♦ 3♥ 9♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $4.65 (Rem. Stack: 120.52), BTN Folds, HERO Calls $4.65 (Rem. Stack: 92.69)

Turn ($17.78): 3♦ 3♥ 9♥ 7♦
HERO Checks, CO Bets $10.85 (Rem. Stack: 109.67), HERO Calls $10.85 (Rem. Stack: 81.84)

River ($39.48): 3♦ 3♥ 9♥ 7♦ 5♦
HERO?
Check looking to CR or just bet out?
Normally at lower stakes I'd just lead out here. I considered a slight overbet, my hand does look somewhat like a busted flush draw when I check call twice. He's going to struggly to lay down JJ+ overpairs.
If he has an overpair I'd still expect him to bet for value, I can have 88 TT JJ here as well.. If he has AK AQ he might bluff or just give up but that hand doesn't call anything.
Which option is best against a TAG like this?

 

[seeyouthru]

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NL Holdem $1.0(BB)
SB ($99.15) [VPIP: 23.4% | PFR: 13.7% | AGG: 35.5% | 3-Bet: 6.3% | Hands: 976]
BB HERO ($100.0)
UTG ($118.64) [VPIP: 20.5% | PFR: 13.1% | AGG: 29.1% | 3-Bet: 3.7% | Hands: 518]
MP ($25.50) [VPIP: 30.5% | PFR: 1.5% | AGG: 13.1% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 202]
HJ ($110.60) [VPIP: 15.7% | PFR: 11.2% | AGG: 25.2% | 3-Bet: 5.9% | Hands: 492]
CO ($127.83) [VPIP: 14.7% | PFR: 10.5% | AGG: 35.1% | 3-Bet: 3% | Hands: 895]
BTN ($132.68) [VPIP: 19% | PFR: 15.3% | AGG: 34% | 3-Bet: 6.8% | Hands: 1314]

Dealt to Hero: 5[emoji812] 3[emoji812]

UTG Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $2.66, BTN Calls $2.66, SB Folds, HERO Calls $1.66
Normally I just fold pre here, but I'd been very quiet on this table and fancied defending to this cheap price.

Hero SPR on Flop: [11.48 effective]
Flop ($8.48): 3[emoji815] 3[emoji813] 9[emoji813]
HERO Checks, CO Bets $4.65 (Rem. Stack: 120.52), BTN Folds, HERO Calls $4.65 (Rem. Stack: 92.69)

Turn ($17.78): 3[emoji815] 3[emoji813] 9[emoji813] 7[emoji815]
HERO Checks, CO Bets $10.85 (Rem. Stack: 109.67), HERO Calls $10.85 (Rem. Stack: 81.84)

River ($39.48): 3[emoji815] 3[emoji813] 9[emoji813] 7[emoji815] 5[emoji815]
HERO?
Check looking to CR or just bet out?
Normally at lower stakes I'd just lead out here. I considered a slight overbet, my hand does look somewhat like a busted flush draw when I check call twice. He's going to struggly to lay down JJ+ overpairs.
If he has an overpair I'd still expect him to bet for value, I can have 88 TT JJ here as well.. If he has AK AQ he might bluff or just give up but that hand doesn't call anything.
Which option is best against a TAG like this?

You Should Have Check Raised On The Flop or turn To Bloat The pot!
You Can Lead All In On the river as there arent many folds in microstakes!

 

[John A]

iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 64.5 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
BB: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 27.56, PFR: 21.87, 3Bet Preflop: 7.58, Hands: 2,470)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 15.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 186)
MP: 246.65 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 107 BB (VPIP: 35.21, PFR: 27.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 636)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7d 8d
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (9.5 BB, 3 players) 7c 7h Kd
BB bets 6.65 BB, UTG calls 6.65 BB, Hero calls 6.65 BB

Turn : (29.45 BB, 3 players) Jc
BB bets 20.6 BB, UTG calls 20.6 BB, fold

River : (70.65 BB, 2 players) Th
BB bets 86.95 BB, fold




Bruce told me this is too tight a fold on turn. I think it's fine. BB is a good reg. UTG is nitty without much spew.
BB has only donked trips before this as per my notes.
I think the 7x combos that beat us are far more than the ones we beat

It's way too tight of a fold. Way. There's tons of Kx and turned draws from BB here. He could have been trying to steal on the flop. Him betting out w/ 7x MW into a preflop raiser makes little sense at these stakes.