Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[rhombus]

Rhom
I really struggle at zoom because of my lack of post flop aggression and the lack of reads. I really think you'd be better playing regular tables and looking for players like this guy who I OWNED here. This is a great example of why table selecting and finding these players is key to a good winrate.

I have started to play more regular tables as I used to play Zoom Exclusively, although I dont really table select, I just tend to sort my Average Pot and go on their waiting lists as Im assuming looser players will be there. Also taking Notes on the Big FISH

I know HEM has a Table scanner do you use that to scan for the fish or use different methods.

Also do your auto rate icons still work I havent seen them for ages, did they disappear when Stars updated their policies.

 

[No Brainer]

I have started to play more regular tables as I used to play Zoom Exclusively, although I dont really table select, I just tend to sort my Average Pot and go on their waiting lists as Im assuming looser players will be there. Also taking Notes on the Big FISH

I know HEM has a Table scanner do you use that to scan for the fish or use different methods.

Also do your auto rate icons still work I havent seen them for ages, did they disappear when Stars updated their policies.

I don't think HEMs table scanner works, at least not for Stars. I find sorting by % of players in pot, then jumping on tables near the top of that list with the larger pots seems to work. I did notice that the pot size on Stars software can change fairly dramatically very quickly so I am guessing they base the average on just the last 5 or 10 hands.

Not sure about the auto rate icons but I haven't seen them on Stars since I have started playing again but they do come up in my HEM replayer. I use the colours on the stars software for categorizing player types then the HUD for taking notes.

Green - Fish
Orange - OK reg, just have to have fairly normal stats
Red - Good reg, have to prove themselves to be good over a few hundred hands before getting red
Teal - Passive reg, either a wide VPIP/PFR gap or a very low 3bet %
Purple - Nit
Dark Blue - Lag/Maniac, Generally a 3bet% over 10% with higher VPIP/PFR. If they prove to be good LAGs they go to red.
Light Blue - Spewtard, these guys hate money so always be on a waiting list if you see one.

I try to categorise most people within about 50 hands so I can make a quick assumption if am I to play a hand with them although their colour can always change at a later point.

If I sit at a table with a red player to my left I will only stay if there are other green or light blue players at the table, though even some greens are not worth the pain of being OOP to a good player. The best seat to have is with one or two Purples to your left and one or two greens to your right, that way you can steal the nits blinds and you have position on the fish.

 

[Figaroo2]

I have started to play more regular tables as I used to play Zoom Exclusively, although I dont really table select, I just tend to sort my Average Pot and go on their waiting lists as Im assuming looser players will be there. Also taking Notes on the Big FISH
I know HEM has a Table scanner do you use that to scan for the fish or use different methods.
Also do your auto rate icons still work I havent seen them for ages, did they disappear when Stars updated their policies.

I sit in the lobby looking at the tables with one or two seats free and look for them by stack size. Anyone with less than 80bb if I see a seat at the table I will sit down. Ideally looking for the seat immediately to the left of the fish.
This is where we need to get you onto skype or hangouts so I can show you and talk about it. I dont use table scanner and when you say auto rate icons, do you mean on the HUD? whale fish dice abc, etc

 

[Figaroo2]

table selection

This is pretty typical. Similar to No brainer
I'll be clicking on the tables with 6/7/8 players and looking for players I've marked blue (my colour for fish) The darker blue the worse they are. Orange for regs, red for the best regs worth avoiding.
I would get into this table asap and join the waiting list, with a confirmed fish and two other shorties and a deeper stacked bad player this is a good table.

 

[or3o1990]

I don't do much table selecting when playing FR at bovada. There's plenty of fish for one and losing all of your stats on opponents sucks. It's kind of a lose, lose situation imo. I'm more picky when I'm getting on a 6max table tho. Even then it's tough to identify just by the players per flop and pot size which tables are fishier..

 

[rhombus]

I don't think HEMs table scanner works, at least not for Stars. I find sorting by % of players in pot, then jumping on tables near the top of that list with the larger pots seems to work. I did notice that the pot size on Stars software can change fairly dramatically very quickly so I am guessing they base the average on just the last 5 or 10 hands.

Not sure about the auto rate icons but I haven't seen them on Stars since I have started playing again but they do come up in my HEM replayer. I use the colours on the stars software for categorizing player types then the HUD for taking notes.

Green - Fish
Orange - OK reg, just have to have fairly normal stats
Red - Good reg, have to prove themselves to be good over a few hundred hands before getting red
Teal - Passive reg, either a wide VPIP/PFR gap or a very low 3bet %
Purple - Nit
Dark Blue - Lag/Maniac, Generally a 3bet% over 10% with higher VPIP/PFR. If they prove to be good LAGs they go to red.
Light Blue - Spewtard, these guys hate money so always be on a waiting list if you see one.

I try to categorise most people within about 50 hands so I can make a quick assumption if am I to play a hand with them although their colour can always change at a later point.

If I sit at a table with a red player to my left I will only stay if there are other green or light blue players at the table, though even some greens are not worth the pain of being OOP to a good player. The best seat to have is with one or two Purples to your left and one or two greens to your right, that way you can steal the nits blinds and you have position on the fish.

Thanks makes alot of sense although this is where I have a bit of a disadvantage for notes as Im colour Blind, even in my HUD had to change to Yellow for Passive, Blue for Regular/Optmimal Stats and Red for High/Aggressive

When I play cash I have started to label the fish in Yellow and aggo or aggressive fish in RED

 

[rhombus]

I sit in the lobby looking at the tables with one or two seats free and look for them by stack size. Anyone with less than 80bb if I see a seat at the table I will sit down. Ideally looking for the seat immediately to the left of the fish.
This is where we need to get you onto skype or hangouts so I can show you and talk about it. I dont use table scanner and when you say auto rate icons, do you mean on the HUD? whale fish dice abc, etc

Thanks, yes was talking about the icons whale fish dice etc.

 

[John A]

I don't think HEMs table scanner works, at least not for Stars. I find sorting by % of players in pot, then jumping on tables near the top of that list with the larger pots seems to work. I did notice that the pot size on Stars software can change fairly dramatically very quickly so I am guessing they base the average on just the last 5 or 10 hands.

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Yeah table scanner won't work on PS anymore. But yeah, table selection is important. If you're playing for the money, look for the best tables. I usually just look for the highest pot totals and highest VPIP correlation. That will typically ensure a decent table, at least for awhile, unless the big fish just busted and you're taking their seat.

If the table starts looking too reggy.. just look for another, rinse and repeat.

 

[rhombus]

Yesterday was brutal, it seems 1 step forward and two back. lost $27 and ran $58 against EV

Got into a few battles with a 12Tabling aggro from South Korea who after about 100 hands was around 35/30 50% agg 20% 3B

Got stacked 4 times 1 a flip which i think I overplayed the others bad beats.

The AT hand got it in on Turn against a different aggro fish as 84% fav they had T9 and spiked the 9

JJ against Dealer when I was SB against another fish, all in on flop they had J9 and obviosuly it anothe 9 when I was 89%

2 hands against the Korean 75s all in on turn and for once they had a genuine hand AA but when it went in was 91%fav they hit 2 outer

PS stil no broken mice or monitors so Tilt control working better

Other hand (A9s) against Korean not sure if overplayed or not
poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $4.80 (48 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.30 (103 bb)
UTG: $10.94 (109.4 bb)
MP: $19.48 (194.8 bb) 31/25 41%Ag 13.2 3Bet 192 hands
CO: $20.59 (205.9 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9:heart: A:heart:
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 6:spade: 5:heart: 7:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP raises to $2.12, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, MP calls $7.88

Turn: ($20.65) J:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($20.65) 9:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $20.65 pot ($0.93 rake)
Final Board: 6:spade: 5:heart: 7:heart: J:club: 9:spade:
Hero showed 9:heart: A:heart: and lost (-$10.30 net)
MP showed 3:club: 4:club: and won $19.72 ($9.42 net)

 

[or3o1990]

Yesterday was brutal, it seems 1 step forward and two back. lost $27 and ran $58 against EV

Got into a few battles with a 12Tabling aggro from South Korea who after about 100 hands was around 35/30 50% agg 20% 3B

Got stacked 4 times 1 a flip which i think I overplayed the others bad beats.

The AT hand got it in on Turn against a different aggro fish as 84% fav they had T9 and spiked the 9

JJ against Dealer when I was SB against another fish, all in on flop they had J9 and obviosuly it anothe 9 when I was 89%

2 hands against the Korean 75s all in on turn and for once they had a genuine hand AA but when it went in was 91%fav they hit 2 outer

PS stil no broken mice or monitors so Tilt control working better

It's all good to vent if it helps man and I certainly think it does help sometimes. But dwelling on coolers and lost flips is very counterproductive to getting better at this game. If you GII good then it doesn't matter. Lost a flip, who cares. You're printing money in those spots over the long term.

I don't remember if you posted any goals at the beginning of the year or not but if you didn't you should come up with some. It seems like you grind pretty seriously and if that's true you should be focusing on volume or hours and getting better all of the time. That's it. All i'm saying is be objective oriented, not results oriented. But keep flipping the coin and collecting the money buddy


Also, get a darn microphone and start getting in on these skype sessions!!

 

[rhombus]

Yeah table scanner won't work on PS anymore. But yeah, table selection is important. If you're playing for the money, look for the best tables. I usually just look for the highest pot totals and highest VPIP correlation. That will typically ensure a decent table, at least for awhile, unless the big fish just busted and you're taking their seat.

If the table starts looking too reggy.. just look for another, rinse and repeat.

thanks I ll probabl yuse suggetsion above as the easiest
Before it was Min Ave Pot 28BBs, but just added min VPIP 30%, will adjust as needed if no tables showup. Currently showing 11 tables.

Are any of the others any good i.e. Min Ave Stack BB, Min Payers per Flop % or just stick to the 2 above

 

[Yoshiaki]

Hi, long time i dont post here . Some hands from today that were really interesting spots were i bluff in 3bet pots OOP against a LAG villian with a capped range .

Both hands same villian with this stats VPIP: 28, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2.6, Hands: 239

Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $63.78 (127.6 bb)
BTN: $61.13 (122.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh Jd
BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 6d Ad 8s (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, BTN calls $6.25

Turn: ($22.75) Qh (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($22.75) 9s (2 players)
Hero bets $14.31, BTN folds

Results: $22.75 pot ($1.13 rake)
Final Board: 6d Ad 8s Qh 9s
Hero mucked Kh Jd and won $21.62 ($10.37 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$11.25 net)




Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $59.52 (119 bb)
BB: $83.74 (167.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $93.71 (187.4 bb)
MP: $53.81 (107.6 bb)
CO: $70.72 (141.4 bb)
BTN: $15.61 (31.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ad Kc
Hero raises to $1.50, MP raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) 9d Jh Qd (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($10.75) 7h (2 players)
Hero bets $7.66, MP calls $7.66

River: ($26.07) 4c (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, MP folds

Results: $26.07 pot ($1.30 rake)
Final Board: 9d Jh Qd 7h 4c
Hero mucked Ad Kc and won $24.77 ($12.11 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$12.66 net)

 

[rhombus]

Hand 1 Am I missing Value. Thinking about his hand throughout Qx, 99, TT, Ax and flush draws.
Hand 2 like Deja Vu did something similar in a previous hand I posted and immediately thought about it. Do i just shove over their flop bet from Aggro although only 4 hands. Maybe even call Turn ??????? but it was for 1/2 his stack when he bet.

When I called Flop I was going to Raise or Bet turn when no AKQ or spade hit but hindsight thats alot of cards so prob best to shove flop

Hand1
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.11 (131.1 bb)
BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $6.80 (68 bb)
MP: $21.83 (218.3 bb) 25/25 AG 0% 8 hands
Hero (CO): $16.03 (160.3 bb)
BTN: $32 (320 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 3 folds, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) Q

8

4

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($4.25) 6

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

River: ($8.65) 7

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Hand 2 75/75 100% agg 4 hands
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $14.98 (149.8 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $11.97 (119.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $20.19 (201.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

T

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, SB raises to $1.55, BB folds, Hero calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.20) 9

6

2

(2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.20) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero folds

 

[rhombus]

I don't remember if you posted any goals at the beginning of the year or not but if you didn't you should come up with some. It seems like you grind pretty seriously and if that's true you should be focusing on volume or hours and getting better all of the time. That's it. All i'm saying is be objective oriented, not results oriented. But keep flipping the coin and collecting the money buddy


Also, get a darn microphone and start getting in on these skype sessions!!

Didn't really post any goals apart from trying to beat last years figures
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cas...er-vol-i-study-group-227214/post-2802982.html

• Make a profit at every stake and game I play min 5bb/100
• Play 20K+ hands per month
• Hands to Call
• Hands to Dump
• Hands to play and hands not to play in different situations
• 3Betting
• Understand and incorporate HUD stats better
• Improve my typing as when I post and look at what I have said, there are so many typos lol

Overall just enjoy the game and understand what I'm doing by breaking the game down and understanding all aspects.

Jan Stats
So far so good, down $55 at 5c/10c reg 6Max but doesnt help as $82 against EV
Still need to work on WTSD% close VPIP/PFR gap although ten to play looser as more FISH at regular games than at Zoom.

As already posted If i got a microphone Id probably get something thrown at me from partner or daughter as PC in Living Room.

 

[TimovieMan]

First hand seems perfect to me.

Second hand, I'll call him down close to 100% of the time. I think you folded the best hand.
In fact, since he's only got 4.33$ left after his turn bet, and since I would call a 4.33$ river bet too (even on the and ) I could raise the turn. He'll WTF-call with a whole range of hands that you still beat.

 

[Figaroo2]

Hi, long time i dont post here . Some hands from today that were really interesting spots were i bluff in 3bet pots OOP against a LAG villian with a capped range .

Both hands same villian with this stats VPIP: 28, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2.6, Hands: 239

Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash,
SB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $63.78 (127.6 bb)
BTN: $61.13 (122.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh Jd
BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 6d Ad 8s (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, BTN calls $6.25

Turn: ($22.75) Qh (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($22.75) 9s (2 players)
Hero bets $14.31, BTN folds

Results: $22.75 pot ($1.13 rake)
Final Board: 6d Ad 8s Qh 9s
Hero mucked Kh Jd and won $21.62 ($10.37 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$11.25 net)

Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Hero (UTG): $93.71 (187.4 bb)
MP: $53.81 (107.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ad Kc
Hero raises to $1.50, MP raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) 9d Jh Qd (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($10.75) 7h (2 players)
Hero bets $7.66, MP calls $7.66

River: ($26.07) 4c (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, MP folds

Results: $26.07 pot ($1.30 rake)
Final Board: 9d Jh Qd 7h 4c
Hero mucked Ad Kc and won $24.77 ($12.11 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$12.66 net)

I prefer the second hand to the first but to be honest they both look pretty standard.
I find the bet check bet line in the first hand gets looked up a lot. He likely has a lot of suited aces in his Preflop calling range 3 handed as well.
I'm not sure what you are capping him to here he can have both sets and an ace here.
Hand 2 he has a lot of AK same as you or TT so getting in the first bet on the river is enough.

 

[Yoshiaki]

Hi bruce! im capping his range on the first hand because of the check behind on the turn(the Q is a good turn to barrel with sets), now he is never having 2p+ and the most probable hand is an Ax that might fold to a barrel on the river because he is a decent player that i think understand ranges , and i do have a lot better hands there. On the second hand same with the check on the flop, he is never having TPTK+ , so his range is capped to TT, AK, and some middle pair hands like AJ or KJ ( yes he is 3betting them , specially offsuited) that are always folding to 2 barrels in 3bet pot.

 

[Yoshiaki]

Hand 1 Am I missing Value. Thinking about his hand throughout Qx, 99, TT, Ax and flush draws.
Hand 2 like Deja Vu did something similar in a previous hand I posted and immediately thought about it. Do i just shove over their flop bet from Aggro although only 4 hands. Maybe even call Turn ??????? but it was for 1/2 his stack when he bet.

When I called Flop I was going to Raise or Bet turn when no AKQ or spade hit but hindsight thats alot of cards so prob best to shove flop

Hand1
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.11 (131.1 bb)
BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $6.80 (68 bb)
MP: $21.83 (218.3 bb) 25/25 AG 0% 8 hands
Hero (CO): $16.03 (160.3 bb)
BTN: $32 (320 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 3 folds, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) Q

8

4

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($4.25) 6

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

River: ($8.65) 7

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Hand 2 75/75 100% agg 4 hands
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $14.98 (149.8 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $11.97 (119.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $20.19 (201.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

T

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, SB raises to $1.55, BB folds, Hero calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.20) 9

6

2

(2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.20) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero folds

Hi rhombus, on the first hand i'd bet 2/3 pot flop and turn and c/behind on that river, i think you missed some value there. On the second hand i dont think im calling on the turn because you are losing to 99+ ( TT isnt probable for him to have , only 1 combo), you may slightly winning against an AsKs but still losing against the whole range. putting him on a strong range on the turn of 99+,AQs+,KQs+,AQo+ you are behind .
http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 6d9s2sQc
equity Win Tie
CO 28.10% 27.21% 0.89% { TT }
SB 71.90% 71.00% 0.89% { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

 

[John A]

Yesterday was brutal, it seems 1 step forward and two back. lost $27 and ran $58 against EV

Got into a few battles with a 12Tabling aggro from South Korea who after about 100 hands was around 35/30 50% agg 20% 3B

Got stacked 4 times 1 a flip which i think I overplayed the others bad beats.

The AT hand got it in on Turn against a different aggro fish as 84% fav they had T9 and spiked the 9

JJ against Dealer when I was SB against another fish, all in on flop they had J9 and obviosuly it anothe 9 when I was 89%

2 hands against the Korean 75s all in on turn and for once they had a genuine hand AA but when it went in was 91%fav they hit 2 outer

PS stil no broken mice or monitors so Tilt control working better

Other hand (A9s) against Korean not sure if overplayed or not
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $4.80 (48 bb)
Hero (BB): $10.30 (103 bb)
UTG: $10.94 (109.4 bb)
MP: $19.48 (194.8 bb) 31/25 41%Ag 13.2 3Bet 192 hands
CO: $20.59 (205.9 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9♥ A♥
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 6♠ 5♥ 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP raises to $2.12, Hero raises to $10 and is all-in, MP calls $7.88

Turn: ($20.65) J♣ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($20.65) 9♠ (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $20.65 pot ($0.93 rake)
Final Board: 6♠ 5♥ 7♥ J♣ 9♠
Hero showed 9♥ A♥ and lost (-$10.30 net)
MP showed 3♣ 4♣ and won $19.72 ($9.42 net)

Just try your best to shut it down if you feel yourself steaming. Easier said than done of course, but if he's playing like that, don't just passively play marginal hands OOP against someone like that. Either 3-bet or fold pref-flop.

 

[John A]

thanks I ll probabl yuse suggetsion above as the easiest
Before it was Min Ave Pot 28BBs, but just added min VPIP 30%, will adjust as needed if no tables showup. Currently showing 11 tables.

Are any of the others any good i.e. Min Ave Stack BB, Min Payers per Flop % or just stick to the 2 above

That's usually enough. You'll know after sitting a rotation if it's a decent table or not. I don't think there's much else you can put there.

 

[rhombus]

Hi rhombus, on the first hand i'd bet 2/3 pot flop and turn and c/behind on that river, i think you missed some value there. On the second hand i dont think im calling on the turn because you are losing to 99+ ( TT isnt probable for him to have , only 1 combo), you may slightly winning against an AsKs but still losing against the whole range. putting him on a strong range on the turn of 99+,AQs+,KQs+,AQo+ you are behind .
http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 6d9s2sQc
Equity Win Tie
CO 28.10% 27.21% 0.89% { TT }
SB 71.90% 71.00% 0.89% { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

Thanks.

QQ hand I deliberately bet small to look like I was weak and hope he might get aggressive with something like 99 - JJ or flush draw. He actually had AQ so probably would have gone al in if river wasnt a flush card

 

[John A]

Hi, long time i dont post here . Some hands from today that were really interesting spots were i bluff in 3bet pots OOP against a LAG villian with a capped range .

Both hands same villian with this stats VPIP: 28, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2.6, Hands: 239

Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $63.78 (127.6 bb)
BTN: $61.13 (122.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kh Jd
BTN raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 6d Ad 8s (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, BTN calls $6.25

Turn: ($22.75) Qh (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($22.75) 9s (2 players)
Hero bets $14.31, BTN folds

Results: $22.75 pot ($1.13 rake)
Final Board: 6d Ad 8s Qh 9s
Hero mucked Kh Jd and won $21.62 ($10.37 net)
BTN mucked and lost (-$11.25 net)

Looks fine, but I even prefer bet/bet/bet if you're going to continue. Simply because like you said, he'll have a capped range and it helps you have KJ as some better hand blockers. Turn you pick up a gutter ball and you know he's going to have much more than Ax, including some mid pair and 8x hands you'll fold out. And then you can shove the river if he does call and hope he doesn't have AQ.

Party, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $59.52 (119 bb)
BB: $83.74 (167.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $93.71 (187.4 bb)
MP: $53.81 (107.6 bb)
CO: $70.72 (141.4 bb)
BTN: $15.61 (31.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ad Kc
Hero raises to $1.50, MP raises to $5, 4 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.75) 9d Jh Qd (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($10.75) 7h (2 players)
Hero bets $7.66, MP calls $7.66

River: ($26.07) 4c (2 players)
Hero bets $17.25, MP folds

Results: $26.07 pot ($1.30 rake)
Final Board: 9d Jh Qd 7h 4c
Hero mucked Ad Kc and won $24.77 ($12.11 net)
MP mucked and lost (-$12.66 net)

Strange hand... w/o stats it's hard to say if this is a profitable bluff. It doesn't make much sense what hand he's checking, and then calling the turn w/ that he folds on that river unless he had a high 3bet % and there's more suited connectors in his range where he has some kind of combo draw with bottom pairs.

 

[John A]

Hand 1 Am I missing Value. Thinking about his hand throughout Qx, 99, TT, Ax and flush draws.
Hand 2 like Deja Vu did something similar in a previous hand I posted and immediately thought about it. Do i just shove over their flop bet from Aggro although only 4 hands. Maybe even call Turn ??????? but it was for 1/2 his stack when he bet.

When I called Flop I was going to Raise or Bet turn when no AKQ or spade hit but hindsight thats alot of cards so prob best to shove flop

Hand1
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $13.11 (131.1 bb)
BB: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
UTG: $6.80 (68 bb)
MP: $21.83 (218.3 bb) 25/25 AG 0% 8 hands
Hero (CO): $16.03 (160.3 bb)
BTN: $32 (320 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

Q

UTG folds, MP raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 3 folds, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.25) Q

8

4

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

Turn: ($4.25) 6

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.20, MP calls $2.20

River: ($8.65) 7

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Why weren't you betting larger? You cost yourself some decent value here. I think a river check is fine. If he had a set, you'd have known by the turn. Doubtful he calls w/ 99/TT hands when you've bet 3 streets on that runout. It's just one of those spots that suck where even though you're still ahead of his range at the end, it's hard to get paid (Unless he's a fish, but doesn't look like it).

Hand 2 75/75 100% agg 4 hands
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SB: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $14.98 (149.8 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $11.97 (119.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $20.19 (201.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T

T

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, SB raises to $1.55, BB folds, Hero calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.20) 9

6

2

(2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.20) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $4, Hero folds

I'm probably raising the flop against someone like this. And not folding the turn. You're still ahead of his range, and he could very well just be some aggro fish.

 

[John A]

Hi rhombus, on the first hand i'd bet 2/3 pot flop and turn and c/behind on that river, i think you missed some value there. On the second hand i dont think im calling on the turn because you are losing to 99+ ( TT isnt probable for him to have , only 1 combo), you may slightly winning against an AsKs but still losing against the whole range. putting him on a strong range on the turn of 99+,AQs+,KQs+,AQo+ you are behind .
http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 6d9s2sQc
Equity Win Tie
CO 28.10% 27.21% 0.89% { TT }
SB 71.90% 71.00% 0.89% { 99+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+ }

His opponents range is much much much wider than that. He's already splashing around, and his 3-bet is large from the blinds, which usually is a weak hand at these stakes. It's more like this and even wider:

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Board: 6d 9s 2s Qc

Equity Win Tie Hand Range
55.264% 54.8964% 0.3676% [ ThTs ]
44.736% 44.3683% 0.3676% [ 99+(100), T9o(100), T9s(100), A9s(100), A9o(100), A6s(100), AQo+(100), AQs+(100), KQo(100), KQs(100), KsJs(100), KsTs(100), AsJs(100), QJs(100), As7s(100), As8s(100), As5s(100), 87s(100), 86o+(100), 98s(100), J9s+(100), J9o(100) ]

 

[rhombus]

Has anybody come across anybody with extreme stats, yesterday a shortstacking fish was playing every pot then alot of the time min donking most pots and calling sometimes when raised.

His aggression was over 50 but gradually came down, made me have a thought if someone is trying to figure out your aggression factor is it worth donk betting min alot probably a -EV to gain a +EV situation later if oppoents think you are really aggressive. Below are his stats and one of the typical hands he played

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SB: $3.29 (32.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $5.10 (51 bb)
MP: $10.32 (103.2 bb)
CO: $10.84 (108.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10.77 (107.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

9

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20, MP calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.05) 7

2

3

(3 players)
UTG bets $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($1.35) J

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70, MP folds

River: ($2.75) 5

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.10, Hero raises to $1.40, UTG calls $1.30

Results: $5.55 pot ($0.25 rake)
Final Board: 7

2

3

J

5

UTG showed 2

2

and won $5.30 ($2.80 net)
Hero showed A

9

and lost (-$2.50 net)