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Been playing a lot less recently because of bovada changing the client so HUD's don't work. Sort of discouraging...

HUD's work again now, but there are some bugs still. But they work.
 
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Hand 1 is this a standard line with AK when OOP. Villain 17/15 38%AG 48 hand
Hand 2 Is this avoidable, I did notice his aggression % of 27 when he bet.


Hand1
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SB: $16.37 (163.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $17.76 (177.6 bb)
UTG: $18.70 (187 bb)
MP: $9.63 (96.3 bb)
CO: $12.09 (120.9 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
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K
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3 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.65) 6
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9
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A
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.05, BTN calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.75) 8
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.14, Hero calls $2.14

River: ($8.03) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.01 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $8.03 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 6
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9
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A
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8
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T
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Hero mucked A
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K
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and lost (-$3.99 net)
BTN mucked and won $7.67 ($3.68 net)

I don't think it's a standard line. You should bet the turn in this spot. As played c/f river is good here.

Hand2 Villain 34/29 27% AG after 35 hands
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $29.55 (295.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $24 (240 bb)
MP: $9.81 (98.1 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $18.02 (180.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q
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Q
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Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.15) J
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2
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4
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.55) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.90, Hero raises to $6.96, MP raises to $7.61, Hero calls $0.65

River: ($19.77) 5
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(2 players)

Results: $19.77 pot ($0.89 rake)
Final Board: J
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2
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4
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T
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5
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Hero showed Q
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Q
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and lost (-$9.81 net)
MP showed K
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K
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and won $18.88 ($9.07 net)

27% agg in small sample. Yeah, that's tough. I mean he should be checking behind everything that you beat on the turn. I mean minus AK, which wouldn't be committing there in that spot, there's no hands other than pure bluffs you're beating. I don't think it's horrible you stacked off here, but I think I'd be finding a fold.

Try not to post results though also.
 
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HUD's work again now, but there are some bugs still. But they work.

Do we have to redownload the newest version or does our Card Catcher keep up to date automatically? My bovada card catcher still isnt working at the moment too :( ever since the update.
 
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Do we have to redownload the newest version or does our Card Catcher keep up to date automatically? My bovada card catcher still isnt working at the moment too :( ever since the update.

You have to manually update. This version is still beta. When we have something ready for full release, then it will come up as an automatic update.

Here's the latest version:

http://acepokersolutions.com/poker-software/Bovada_Card_Catcher_Setup_v2.06.4.exe

- 0% error rate
- Table locator work around
- Opponent stats not resetting on new player fix

Working on fixes for bodog China since the data is slightly different coming out of there. There never was a difference from bodog europe and china before this update, so we're still looking into why that is.
 
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Best line to take when raised on flop. Only 2 hands on villain 50/0 100AG%
Call and go into showdown mode.
Call and raise his turn Bet
Shove over all his draw
Other??????

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $28.09 (280.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $13.94 (139.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $12.43 (124.3 bb)
CO: $6.07 (60.7 bb)
BTN: $7.07 (70.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
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A
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) Q
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9
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4
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero
 
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I don't think it's a standard line. You should bet the turn in this spot. As played c/f river is good here.
Im trying to avoid Bet Bet and betting River and getting shoved especially OOP as only 1 pair.

So your suggestion Bet flop Bet turn then what happens on River -Bet/Fold or Check/Call
 
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Im trying to avoid Bet Bet and betting River and getting shoved especially OOP as only 1 pair.

So your suggestion Bet flop Bet turn then what happens on River -Bet/Fold or Check/Call

And I think that's fine in a lot of situations, but you want to make sure you're applying it in the correct spots. Here, you have someone who is tight and not aggressive on a draw heavy board w/ TPTK. There's no assurance they will bet worse on the turn, and based on what data you do have, it's likely they will not. So it's best to bet your hands here and fold to a raise. Don't allow them to check behind and miss value.

And yes, on most spots then bet / fold river or c/f would be best.
 
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Best line to take when raised on flop. Only 2 hands on villain 50/0 100AG%
Call and go into showdown mode.
Call and raise his turn Bet
Shove over all his draw
Other??????

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $28.09 (280.9 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $13.94 (139.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $12.43 (124.3 bb)
CO: $6.07 (60.7 bb)
BTN: $7.07 (70.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
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A
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) Q
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9
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4
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero


Against a probable fish? I'll let others answer this first. Are you being results oriented when you post this or what's going on?
 
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Against a probable fish? I'll let others answer this first. Are you being results oriented when you post this or what's going on?
Partly results but I was genuinely unsure what to do. SPR was 7-8 and wet flop lots of draws like TJ, flush draws and Qx with a diamond. If 3bet pot then probably just shove to deny him his equity.

Seem to find myself in alot of similar spots with overpairs or top pair top kicker and want to balance between max value when they have 2nd best hand and not paying off when they have it
 
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Partly results but I was genuinely unsure what to do. SPR was 7-8 and wet flop lots of draws like TJ, flush draws and Qx with a diamond. If 3bet pot then probably just shove to deny him his equity.

Seem to find myself in alot of similar spots with overpairs or top pair top kicker and want to balance between max value when they have 2nd best hand and not paying off when they have it

Well yeah it kind of sucks when we get raised here but as you point out there are a variety of hands that can raise which we still beat so folding is out of the question.
As John said a likely fish as indicated by stack size and he bet and or raised in the hand played so far so seeing a raise here ponits towards an aggro fish.
So do we call or raise?
This isn't a 3 bet pot, so we can probably rule out him having QQ as this more than likely raises preflop. 99 might also have 3 bet but a lot of fish will also just flat this hand. This helps cut down on what beats us and 2 pair is also pretty unlikely. It is also unlikely that he puts us as strong as AA.
He could legitimately raise with AQ KQ JQ JT QQ 99 44 and fd.
So realistically we are only losing to the smaller sets.
If it was a 3 bet pot then with the SPR I agree we can shove, also because the lower sets then become less probable.
I think raising looking towards getting it in here is viable, he's likely fishy so will probably call it off with Qx FD and OESD of which there a load more combos than sets.
So are we losing value if we just call against a fish?, Not necessarily as there are still two more streets to get more money in and hes looking aggro. If he raised the flop he is likely to bet the turn whatever card arrives and get himself pot committed.
I think you are less likely to get stacked by calling as we can fold on wet boards to heavy betting but also less likely to win the full stack when the draws miss.
Personally I probably just call on the flop because I don't know that much about him to confirm our initial read.
If a diamond comes we can hang around on the turn as we will have the nut draw. Any non diamond card under an 8 on the turn we can look to get it in then. I don't really want to see an 8 or K and won't call two barrels against those cards. The tough spot would be a diamond coming in and facing a big bet on the turn
 
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Against a probable fish? I'll let others answer this first. Are you being results oriented when you post this or what's going on?

Well yeah it kind of sucks when we get raised here but as you point out there are a variety of hands that can raise which we still beat so folding is out of the question.
As John said a likely fish as indicated by stack size and he bet and or raised in the hand played so far so seeing a raise here ponits towards an aggro fish.
So do we call or raise?
This isn't a 3 bet pot, so we can probably rule out him having QQ as this more than likely raises preflop. 99 might also have 3 bet but a lot of fish will also just flat this hand. This helps cut down on what beats us and 2 pair is also pretty unlikely. It is also unlikely that he puts us as strong as AA.
He could legitimately raise with AQ KQ JQ JT QQ 99 44 and fd.
So realistically we are only losing to the smaller sets.
If it was a 3 bet pot then with the SPR I agree we can shove, also because the lower sets then become less probable.
I think raising looking towards getting it in here is viable, he's likely fishy so will probably call it off with Qx FD and OESD of which there a load more combos than sets.
So are we losing value if we just call against a fish?, Not necessarily as there are still two more streets to get more money in and hes looking aggro. If he raised the flop he is likely to bet the turn whatever card arrives and get himself pot committed.
I think you are less likely to get stacked by calling as we can fold on wet boards to heavy betting but also less likely to win the full stack when the draws miss.
Personally I probably just call on the flop because I don't know that much about him to confirm our initial read.
If a diamond comes we can hang around on the turn as we will have the nut draw. Any non diamond card under an 8 on the turn we can look to get it in then. I don't really want to see an 8 or K and won't call two barrels against those cards. The tough spot would be a diamond coming in and facing a big bet on the turn

I actually 3Bet his glop rasie to $3.20 and surprised that he just called ruling out sets. But when the turn was a diamond and he had less than 1/2 pot bet left I just put him in


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players


Hero (MP): $12.43 (124.3 bb)

BTN: $7.07 (70.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
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A
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) Q
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9
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4
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $3.20, BTN calls $1.40

Turn: ($7.25) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, BTN raises to $3.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.82

River: ($14.29) 7
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $14.29 pot ($0.64 rake)
Final Board: Q
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9
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4
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5
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7
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Hero showed A
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A
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and lost (-$7.07 net)
BTN showed 9
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Q
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and won $13.65 ($6.58 net)
 
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I actually 3Bet his glop rasie to $3.20 and surprised that he just called ruling out sets. But when the turn was a diamond and he had less than 1/2 pot bet left I just put him in


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players


Hero (MP): $12.43 (124.3 bb)

BTN: $7.07 (70.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
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A
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.35, CO folds, BTN calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.85) Q
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9
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4
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $3.20, BTN calls $1.40

Turn: ($7.25) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $2.70, BTN raises to $3.52 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.82

River: ($14.29) 7
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $14.29 pot ($0.64 rake)
Final Board: Q
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9
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4
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5
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7
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Hero showed A
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A
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and lost (-$7.07 net)
BTN showed 9
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Q
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and won $13.65 ($6.58 net)

Nh. Obv, just shoving the turn is fine as well. I mean you're never ever folding in this spot vs a fish. I think you know that and maybe you were just going through a bad run. As far as call or re-pop on flop, I like the min re-raise vs fish.
 
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Nh. Obv, just shoving the turn is fine as well. I mean you're never ever folding in this spot vs a fish. I think you know that and maybe you were just going through a bad run. As far as call or re-pop on flop, I like the min re-raise vs fish.
So frustrated at the moment and confidence in my game up and down, started off the year normal then went ok then big downsing again which seriously casts doubts in your game. Tried to increase AGG% especialy on flops OOP by checkraising value hands and hands with backdoor equity and overcard.

Only a msall sample but 3bet has come down WTSD still needs to come down point or 2 W$SD% looks good :) and AGG needs abit more

Difficult at times to say whether its bad play, bad run or combination of both. Even tried 10c/25c PLO for a couple of days and it got even worse dropping $170 in less than 1500 hands running like crap
 

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hand below so similar to hand from https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/polished-poker-vol-i-study-group-227214/post-2818693.html QQ vs KK, although this time Im OOP

Villains Stats 23/11 22% Aggression 65 hands. Full stats posted below. Just noticed WSD is 58 and W$WD is 42 so does that mean as he is passive, goes to the river alot but tends to have it ???

In the QQ vs KK hand it was suggested : -

27% agg in small sample. Yeah, that's tough. I mean he should be checking behind everything that you beat on the turn. I mean minus AK, which wouldn't be committing there in that spot, there's no hands other than pure bluffs you're beating. I don't think it's horrible you stacked off here, but I think I'd be finding a fold.

Does this still apply when OOP as opposed to being in position


Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $5.10 (51 bb)
BB: $15.05 (150.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10.86 (108.6 bb)
BTN: $5.21 (52.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J
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J
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Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 5
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4
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3
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.75) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.10, Hero
 

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I'm folding my JJ in a 3bet pot like this to a turn value looking bet unless I have a note he can double barrel AK AQ unimproved. You were also UTG which make his range slightly stronger.
 
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Hi rhombus, i think your JJ is a fold on the turn , because he 3bets you vs your EP range ( strong) and double barrels you in a semidry board so.. you can fold there. Also the fact that the villian is 23/11 means that he is not going to 3bet you with worse.
 
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Weird spots vs aggro fishes:
1)
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villian stats: BB ( €10.48 EUR ) - VPIP: 55, PFR: 11, 3B: 3, AF: 5.0, Hands: 114

SB: $24.42 (122.1 bb)
BB: $10.48 (52.4 bb)
UTG: $24.96 (124.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $119.95 (599.8 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $7.80 (39 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Td Th
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.30) 8d Kd 7h (2 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.70) Tc (2 players)
BB bets $9.68 and is all-in, Hero ???

This spot is SICK , i turned a set and the fish is a aggresive enough to make a call . I really dont know if i can ever fold in this spot.

2)
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SB: $21 (105 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.69 (103.5 bb)
UTG: $7.80 (39 bb)
MP: $21.79 (109 bb)
CO: $20 (100 bb)
BTN: $46.26 (231.3 bb)
Villian stats: ( €46.26 EUR ) - VPIP: 57, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 6.8, Hands: 56
Preflop: Hero is BB with Kc Ac
3 folds, BTN calls $0.20, SB completes, Hero raises to $1.20, BTN calls $1, SB folds

Flop: ($2.60) Qd 2h 4h (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.60) 5c (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($4.60) 3s (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $43.40, Hero ??

I think this spot is more of a clear fold because of the wide range of the fish in the Btn, it has a lot of sixes so.. even though is an aggro fish is a fold?
 
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Just thought this was a funny hand that I played last night. Actually, no reads, just a hunch that this guy was posting early and looking to gamble.

iPoker - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 60.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 60 BB (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 21.76 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
CO: 57.63 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
Hero (BTN): 110.45 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: A:spade:

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, CO calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, UTG raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (35.5 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: Q:diamond: 9:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets 10.75 BB, UTG raises to 21.5 BB, Hero raises to 94.45 BB, UTG calls 22.5 BB

Turn: (123.5 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:

River: (123.5 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:

Hero wins 170.95 BB
UTG had 8:diamond: 2:club:
 
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I think I'm folding in both spots. We have come to understand in this thread from experience that these overbet shoves are nearly always for value especially if the villain could have bluffed by betting less.
So the first hand is the harder fold but 96 makes total sense especially if suited. I had a hand very similar to this yesterday and non believed and got stacked. It all depends on how often he is shoving on the turn like this and whether you think he can shove here with KT. J9 is also possible but I'd fav 96. His small lead out is usually just a try to get a cheap draw.
Hand 2 it isn't called the dumb end for nothing insta fold.

John
If only it was so simple, must have taken you back to your pre black Fri days. What a drooler.
 
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Here is the similar hand I mentioned above
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $12.34 (123.4 bb) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 24, 3B: 13, AF: 8.0, Hands: 45
BB: $10.83 (108.3 bb)
UTG+1: $10 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $2.92 (29.2 bb)
Hero (MP2): $12.09 (120.9 bb)
MP3: $11.39 (113.9 bb)
CO: $6.92 (69.2 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4:heart: 4:spade:
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds, SB calls $0.25, BB folds

Flop: ($1) K:diamond: 4:club: 3:diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.90) 7:club: (3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB raises to $3.76, MP1 folds, Hero calls $2.36

River: ($9.42) J:spade: (2 players)
SB bets $7.98 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.73 and is all-in

Results: $24.88 pot ($1.12 rake)
Final Board: K:diamond: 4:club: 3:diamond: 7:club: J:spade:
SB showed and won $23.76 ($11.67 net)
Hero mucked 4:heart: 4:spade: and lost (-$12.09 net)

The big raise on the turn got my attention but with the high AF i'll call once, it got me looking at the board. I think he either has 56 or backed into 777 at that point, maybe he picked up a flush draw perhaps Kc Xc. I'm hoping the board pairs. looking at it again a raise was in order on the flop on that wet a board but i was looking to trap a likely SB raise.
When it doesnt and he shoves then my gut tells me i'm probably beaten most likely it has to be 56. I said this to myself but his AF is too high to fully credit it.
 
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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $14.04 (140.4 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $12.43 (124.3 bb)
MP1: $13.62 (136.2 bb) 73/9/37 <(())><
MP2: $10.48 (104.8 bb)
MP3: $15.19 (151.9 bb)
CO: $11.66 (116.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $12.10 (121 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4:club: 4:spade:
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.35) 4:diamond: 9:diamond: 3:club: (3 players)
MP1 bets $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, MP1 calls $0.80, MP2 folds

Turn: ($4.15) 8:diamond: (2 players)
MP1 bets $3.96, Hero calls $3.96, pretty terrible turn card, ill only be folding if another diamond arrive though.

River: ($12.07) 5:club: (2 players)
MP1 bets $8.06, Hero calls $6.54

Results: $25.15 pot ($1.13 rake)
Final Board: 4:diamond: 9:diamond: 3:club: 8:diamond: 5:club:
MP1 showed A:heart::mad: and won $24.02 ($11.92 net) you can work out his other card from this, and i'm feeling pretty sick of these beats, I posted another stacked and lost set in my thread
Hero mucked 4:club: 4:spade: and lost (-$12.10 net)
 

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I'm folding my JJ in a 3bet pot like this to a turn value looking bet unless I have a note he can double barrel AK AQ unimproved. You were also UTG which make his range slightly stronger.

Hi rhombus, i think your JJ is a fold on the turn , because he 3bets you vs your EP range ( strong) and double barrels you in a semidry board so.. you can fold there. Also the fact that the villian is 23/11 means that he is not going to 3bet you with worse.
Im thinking the same with his stat of 23/11 22% AG and amde me think of hand I posted before with QQ vs KK and shoved and lost. THis time instead of shoving I decided to call and then decide. Cheeky fecker had nothing but spiked the Queen :eek:.

Maybe just a one off but I think agree in general maybe a fold on the turn with his low aggression and his 3bet from an UTG

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Hero (UTG): $10 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J
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J
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Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $0.90, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 5
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4
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3
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.90, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.75) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

River: ($7.95) Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Results: $7.95 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 5
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4
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3
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T
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Q
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Hero showed J
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J
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and lost (-$3.90 net)
MP showed 9
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Q
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and won $7.59 ($3.69 net)
 
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You can stick a fork in me i'm done

Hot and tilted.
I think it just accumulated over the last few days.
First time in quite a while.
If anyone wants to so some hand analysis on skype I'm free, I'm done playing for today other than the freerolls
last week and this weeks graphs.
 

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