Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[rhombus]

hand 1 clear fold.
With the double broadway even firing the flop is dubious. We have talked before about double broadway flops and the fact that anyone with two broadway cards themselves has at least a gutshot to the nuts or a pair with backdoors and are calling at least once. The double barrel is out of the question unless you are going to 3barrel bluff.

Hand 2....AG71% makes this a clear call for me, he could have anything here. If he has a flush hes getting paid by me.

Hand 3. The 10c lead is the draw...good raise on the flop. I might make it nearer $2 on the turn, terrible river card but he's a total fish so I can't see folding a set when its $3.66 to win over $9, we don't have to be good that often. We are probably beaten but I'd see it as just a short term loan.

Hand1
Guess I messed up hand 1, I actually called thinking his hand was so polarised when the brick hit the river between Nuts and lots of draws , AQ, TQ flush draws. ALso if he had a jack wouldnt he check raise the turn as I could have had lots of draws. Maybe thinking too much.

Hand 2
I actually folded, was confused between nitty preflop stats and high aggro stats and his largeish bet $4 into 5.40

Hand 3
Again folded, even though he was a massive fish he was prety aggro postflop and when river hit which hit main straight draw and river and he suddenly bet out i though the had it. PS his W$ was 48 and WSD 13 so Im assuming that means he doesnt often get to showdown but when he does he tends to have it ???

 

[John A]

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[Figaroo2]

sigh

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

Hero (SB): $10.20 (102 bb)
BB: $11.84 (118.4 bb) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, hands: 643 bad reg
MP1: $11.72 (117.2 bb)
MP2: $10.32 (103.2 bb)
MP3: $4.63 (46.3 bb)
CO: $12.23 (122.3 bb)
BTN: $10.50 (105 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K:club: K:diamond:
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) K:heart: A:diamond: 9:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.42, BB calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.44) Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.03, BB calls $1.03

River: ($3.50) 2:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.67, BB raises to $7.30,
Hero?
Flush arrives and straights out there. Its bvb so he could easily be as wide as JTs

 

[Figaroo2]

sigh 2

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players

SB: $3.99 (39.9 bb)
BB: $26.15 (261.5 bb)
MP1: $10.75 (107.5 bb) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 15, 3B: 3, AF: 4.0, Hands: 137 , ft3b 100% wtsd 14%
MP2: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
MP3: $11.74 (117.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.45 (104.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K:heart: A:spade:
MP1 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, 3 folds
This guy folds to 3bets so I flat this.

Flop: ($0.75) K:spade: 4:diamond: K:diamond: (2 players)
MP1 bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.95) 9:spade: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.93, MP1 raises to $1.86, Hero calls $0.93
don't like this but there are two flush draws and hes aggressive so not folding here,,,,ever,,,

River: ($5.67) Q:club: (2 players)
MP1 bets $3,
Yuk value looking sizing, not really big enough for a bluff
Hero calls $3 reluctantly wishing I'd 3bet pre, hoping for a split or KJ or a busted FD

 

[or3o1990]

I think the first hand is a fold. No two pairs or sets or even a straight is shoving for value. He's got to have Ax hearts or air I think. I would have made it a little bigger on the river though. Betting 2/3 twice then less than 1/2 on the river telegraphs that you don't like the heart. But you probably saved yourself a little money.

I'm snap calling this guy in the second hand. The only thing I think makes sense that is beating you is J 10. I don't see anyone checking QQ, trips or a boat on the turn hoping to c/r.

 

[Yoshiaki]

Hi fig, As or3o1990 said, first hand is a fold , all the draws that the BB range has get there on the river. And the on the second hand i'd make a 3bet preflop with AKo vs MP1 , and as played crying call on the river

 

[Yoshiaki]

Some weird spots:

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 11, 08:29:43 ET 2016
Table Brezolupy (real money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Seat 3: Hero ( €67.12 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 90439
Seat 5: Player5 ( €51.10 EUR ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
Seat 6: Player6 ( €57.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 100
Seat 8: Player8 ( €145.53 EUR ) - VPIP: 49, PFR: 29, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 77
Seat 10: Player10 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Player1 posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Hero posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad As ]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Player10 raises [€1.00 EUR]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [€3.00 EUR]
Player10 calls [€2.50 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 4s, Ks ]
Hero bets [€4.50 EUR]
Player10 calls [€4.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
Hero checks
Player10 bets [€11.37 EUR]
Hero calls [€11.37 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
Hero bets [€47.75 EUR]
Player10 calls [€30.63 EUR]
Hero wins €17.12 EUR from main pot
Player10 wins €97.25 EUR from main pot
Player10 shows [Jh, Qd ]

Im c/c on the turn bc i think he is folding with draws on a turn bet , but betting to get me out of some hands. Shoving on the river A expecting sets of TT, 44 or 3 combos of AK to call.

€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 12, 12:59:54 ET 2016
Table Glucksburg (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €52.60 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 4.6, Hands: 566
Seat 3: Hero ( €52.70 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 90439
Seat 5: Player5 ( €54.32 EUR ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 3, AF: 2.6, Hands: 408
Seat 6: Player6 ( €46.89 EUR ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 7, 3B: 5, AF: 1.1, Hands: 96
Seat 8: Player8 ( €140.34 EUR ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 23, 3B: 14, AF: 4.2, Hands: 171
Seat 10: Player10 ( €74.13 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 4.6, Hands: 566
Hero posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qd Qs ]
Player6 calls [€0.50 EUR]
Player8 folds
Player10 folds
Player1 raises [€2.25 EUR]
Hero raises [€6.75 EUR]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player1 calls [€4.75 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6c, Js ]
Hero bets [€7.50 EUR]
Player1 calls [€7.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Hero checks
Player1 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Hero bets [€10.00 EUR]
Player1 raises [€38.10 EUR]
Hero folds
Player1 wins €75.60 EUR from main pot

Weird spot , on the turn if i had the Qc i'd shove , but just c/f on the turn. On the river im betting 1/3 bc i expect him to call with worst hands. I think this was a mistake because im capping my range and as he is a good reg, he could shove on me very widely and expect a fold.

 

[No Brainer]

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[rhombus]

hand 1 if you are going to call a bet is it better to bet or just check/call depending on sizing. Only reason I called was massive fish in BB who called my AA 5bet earlier with another player whio had 4Bet KK and they had JQs and obv won

Hand 2 as I pick up more quity on the turn do I bet or should I be worried once he called the flop bet and the board gets wetter?


Hand1

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.13 (101.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $16.09 (160.9 bb)
UTG: $9.10 (91 bb) 71/8 32% AG
MP: $22.28 (222.8 bb)
CO: $22.53 (225.3 bb) 28/18 42% AG 40 hands
BTN: $38.20 (382 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

T

UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) T

9

2

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.05) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG folds, CO calls $1.20

River: ($5.45) Q

(2 players)
Hero ??

Hand2
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $12.29 (122.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $19.67 (196.7 bb)
MP: $17.91 (179.1 bb)
CO: $30.72 (307.2 bb) 40/29 50%AG
BTN: $24.23 (242.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

J

MP folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, CO calls $0.90, SB folds

Flop: ($2.70) Q

9

7

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.03, CO calls $1.03

Turn: ($4.76) T

(2 players)
Hero ???

 

[Figaroo2]

€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Seat 3: Hero ( €67.12 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 90439
Seat 5: Player5 ( €51.10 EUR ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
Seat 6: Player6 ( €57.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 100
Seat 8: Player8 ( €145.53 EUR ) - VPIP: 49, PFR: 29, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 77
Seat 10: Player10 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Player1 posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Hero posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad As ]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Player10 raises [€1.00 EUR]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [€3.00 EUR]
Player10 calls [€2.50 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 4s, Ks ]
Hero bets [€4.50 EUR]
Player10 calls [€4.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
Hero checks
Player10 bets [€11.37 EUR]
Hero calls [€11.37 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
Hero bets [€47.75 EUR]
Player10 calls [€30.63 EUR]
Hero wins €17.12 EUR from main pot
Player10 wins €97.25 EUR from main pot
Player10 shows [Jh, Qd ]

Im c/c on the turn bc i think he is folding with draws on a turn bet ,

I think I'm betting this brick turn card nearly always for extra value from Kx and draws plus I don't want to give a free card to a FD here.
If you wait until the river and his draws miss you aren't getting another cent out of him unless he bluffs.
You pot control here isn't needed 2pair is unlikely and we can't play scared of sets.
We talk about maximising EV in this thread and not forcing out weaker hands but I don't think giving a free card is right here and he still has a chance to bluff on the end on most runouts.
The result of the hand was sick, QJ yuk terrible call pre by the villain.

 

[Figaroo2]

Rhom
Hand 1....I noticed in the stats you posted recently that your vpip in the BB was too high and this is a very good example of a fold preflop without even thinking about. You get the angst you deserve here with an unsuited marginal hand OOP like T8 against an aggro CO..

 

[rhombus]

Rhom
Hand 1....I noticed in the stats you posted recently that your vpip in the BB was too high and this is a very good example of a fold preflop without even thinking about. You get the angst you deserve here with an unsuited marginal hand OOP like T8 against an aggro CO..

9 out of 10 I do fold, it was only because of the utg limper 71/8 otherwise I woud have folded

 

[Figaroo2]

9 out of 10 I do fold, it was only because of the utg limper 71/8 otherwise I woud have folded

Don't get tempted just because the fish is there. Your problem is the guy in the cut off and even more reason not to play is that you aren't closing the action, even a fish can limp raise.

 

[John A]

Looks like a great deal John, thanks for the offer. I am a little confused, the page you linked says there is a monthly subscription but if you click the add to cart link it takes you to a page with a one time fee of $29.99. Also, both the Iron Lion and Roots links take you to the same Roots page.

Yes, apologies. If I don't double and triple check web developers, they sometimes miss things. All squared away now.

 

[John A]

hand 1 if you are going to call a bet is it better to bet or just check/call depending on sizing. Only reason I called was massive fish in BB who called my AA 5bet earlier with another player whio had 4Bet KK and they had JQs and obv won

Hand 2 as I pick up more quity on the turn do I bet or should I be worried once he called the flop bet and the board gets wetter?


Hand1

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.13 (101.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $16.09 (160.9 bb)
UTG: $9.10 (91 bb) 71/8 32% AG
MP: $22.28 (222.8 bb)
CO: $22.53 (225.3 bb) 28/18 42% AG 40 hands
BTN: $38.20 (382 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

T

UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) T

9

2

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

Turn: ($3.05) 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG folds, CO calls $1.20

River: ($5.45) Q

(2 players)
Hero ??

You shouldn't be in this pot. fish or no fish.

Flop and turn look good, I like your turn sizing. River is a c/f. Standard. But just don't get into this spot. This happens with a lot of hands you're posting. You could be my poster child for why regs who can play solid, think they have a good pre-flop strategy, but don't (and I say that w/ love ). You really need to get more solid on this side, and you'll be eliminating so many future mistakes.

Hand2
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $12.29 (122.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $19.67 (196.7 bb)
MP: $17.91 (179.1 bb)
CO: $30.72 (307.2 bb) 40/29 50%AG
BTN: $24.23 (242.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

J

MP folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.20, CO calls $0.90, SB folds

Flop: ($2.70) Q

9

7

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.03, CO calls $1.03

Against someone like this I'm betting a little more for value. Probably 1.5 is good.

Turn: ($4.76) T

(2 players)
Hero ???

I'd lean towards a bet fold of 2.3. As a value blocker. He's too aggressive to go c/c c/c here and allow him to pick the sizing. I think you can go bet, if he calls, then c/f river. I don't think there's enough he'd turn into a bluff at that point. He'll have some show down value. So if he bets, it's going to be for value vs hands you don't beat.

 

[John A]

Some weird spots:

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (IPoker)
€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, January 11, 08:29:43 ET 2016
Table Brezolupy (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Seat 3: Hero ( €67.12 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 90439
Seat 5: Player5 ( €51.10 EUR ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 6
Seat 6: Player6 ( €57.50 EUR ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 3.8, Hands: 100
Seat 8: Player8 ( €145.53 EUR ) - VPIP: 49, PFR: 29, 3B: 8, AF: 1.0, Hands: 77
Seat 10: Player10 ( €50.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 15, 3B: 7, AF: 6.2, Hands: 260
Player1 posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Hero posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ad As ]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player8 folds
Player10 raises [€1.00 EUR]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [€3.00 EUR]
Player10 calls [€2.50 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 4s, Ks ]
Hero bets [€4.50 EUR]
Player10 calls [€4.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
Hero checks
Player10 bets [€11.37 EUR]
Hero calls [€11.37 EUR]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
Hero bets [€47.75 EUR]
Player10 calls [€30.63 EUR]
Hero wins €17.12 EUR from main pot
Player10 wins €97.25 EUR from main pot
Player10 shows [Jh, Qd ]

Im c/c on the turn bc i think he is folding with draws on a turn bet , but betting to get me out of some hands. Shoving on the river A expecting sets of TT, 44 or 3 combos of AK to call.

Is there some converter we can use for this site? Either from CC or elsewhere? Are you pulling this from HM or PT? Both have converters built in also fyi.

Open a little more pre. I'd be CR that turn most of the time. A lot of draws, combo draws, and considering it's a bvb spot, you'll get looked up a lot lighter, so take advantage of it.

€50.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, January 12, 12:59:54 ET 2016
Table Glucksburg (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €52.60 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 4.6, Hands: 566
Seat 3: Hero ( €52.70 EUR ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 90439
Seat 5: Player5 ( €54.32 EUR ) - VPIP: 24, PFR: 21, 3B: 3, AF: 2.6, Hands: 408
Seat 6: Player6 ( €46.89 EUR ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 7, 3B: 5, AF: 1.1, Hands: 96
Seat 8: Player8 ( €140.34 EUR ) - VPIP: 26, PFR: 23, 3B: 14, AF: 4.2, Hands: 171
Seat 10: Player10 ( €74.13 EUR ) - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 4.6, Hands: 566
Hero posts small blind [€0.25 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.50 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qd Qs ]
Player6 calls [€0.50 EUR]
Player8 folds
Player10 folds
Player1 raises [€2.25 EUR]
Hero raises [€6.75 EUR]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds
Player1 calls [€4.75 EUR]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6c, Js ]
Hero bets [€7.50 EUR]
Player1 calls [€7.50 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Hero checks
Player1 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Hero bets [€10.00 EUR]
Player1 raises [€38.10 EUR]
Hero folds
Player1 wins €75.60 EUR from main pot

Weird spot , on the turn if i had the Qc i'd shove , but just c/f on the turn. On the river im betting 1/3 bc i expect him to call with worst hands. I think this was a mistake because im capping my range and as he is a good reg, he could shove on me very widely and expect a fold.

Yeah, once you check the turn you kind of have to know what kind of reg you're against. You're correct that your range looks capped and so you need to know if he understand that. If he does, then you shouldn't be VBing the river unless you bet an amount close to what you did there or even slightly smaller to induce. If he's a bad reg, you should be betting a little more and knowing at that point if they shove it's for pure value and you can fold (even getting good odds). If you're unsure, then still you should be VBing bigger or checking.

 

[No Brainer]

Yes, apologies. If I don't double and triple check web developers, they sometimes miss things. All squared away now.

Thanks mate, which course would you recommend for someone who prior to black Friday was a breakeven player at 50NL full ring but is just coming back to cash games now? I think there are still a lot of things I need to brush up on but a lot of that basic stuff I can find as it is.

 

[No Brainer]

Is this a spot where I should be leading out? I always have in the back of my head check to the raiser but I know if I was the raiser in this spot and missed the board I would be checking it around.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $12.48 (124.8 bb)
BB: $15.14 (151.4 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.07 (100.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

2

CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 4

2

Q

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN checks

 

[Yoshiaki]

Is this a spot where I should be leading out? I always have in the back of my head check to the raiser but I know if I was the raiser in this spot and missed the board I would be checking it around.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $12.48 (124.8 bb)
BB: $15.14 (151.4 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.07 (100.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

2

CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 4

2

Q

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN checks

I think its ok a check /call OOP with the bottom set beause its such a dry board. It is true that you are giving free cards but, its good for you right? you really want someone to get TP or 2p ( wich there isnt any combos on that flop more than than just 1 combo of 42s ) so, if you want action you can c/call on the flop and then just lead on the turn and river.

 

[No Brainer]

I think its ok a check /call OOP with the bottom set beause its such a dry board. It is true that you are giving free cards but, its good for you right? you really want someone to get TP or 2p ( wich there isnt any combos on that flop more than than just 1 combo of 42s ) so, if you want action you can c/call on the flop and then just lead on the turn and river.

Yeh I guess the main factors are the board texture and the amount of players in the pot. In this hand I had the players but the board was so dry they will generally fold without a Q.

Feel like I had a few coolers today but want to see how bad you guys think I played them.

1) First is the hand above, you can see why I questioned leading out here, think it was just being results oriented more than anything. Can we ever fold to the turn raise? Only A3, 36, 44, 55 beat us but his calling range in the BB with three players already in the pot would be pretty wide.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $12.48 (124.8 bb)
BB: $15.14 (151.4 bb) 21/13 13 3bet over 38 hands
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.07 (100.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

2

CO raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 4

2

Q

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.20) 5

(4 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BB raises to $3.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $2.95

River: ($8.90) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.33 and is all-in

Results: $25.56 pot ($1.00 rake)
Final Board: 4

2

Q

5

Q

Hero showed 2

2

and lost (-$12.48 net)
BB showed 5

5

and won $24.56 ($12.08 net)


2) Can we ever fold here, since he called pre I was thinking there are QT, QJ that we beat and we are only beaten by 22.

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SB: $11.31 (113.1 bb)
BB: $10.57 (105.7 bb) 22/16 4 3bet over 64 hands
UTG: $17.94 (179.4 bb)
Hero (MP): $11.08 (110.8 bb)
CO: $10.33 (103.3 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

K

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 2

Q

Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.48, BB raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $3.45, BB raises to $10.27 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.82

Turn: ($21.19) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($21.19) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $21.19 pot ($0.95 rake)
Final Board: 2

Q

Q

6

T

BB showed Q

A

and won $20.24 ($9.67 net)
Hero showed Q

K

and lost (-$10.57 net)



3) Checked the turn to induce a bluff on the river as he has been aggro. I know we are calling for a chop but what's the chance of him having A8?

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SB: $10.51 (105.1 bb)
BB: $8.69 (86.9 bb)
UTG: $14.80 (148 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (CO): $10.15 (101.5 bb)
BTN: $13.67 (136.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

A

UTG raises to $0.20, MP folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.65) A

A

6

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.42, BB folds, UTG calls $0.42

Turn: ($1.49) 6

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.49) 8

(2 players)
UTG bets $1.40, Hero raises to $3.40, UTG raises to $14.18, Hero calls $6.13

Results: $20.55 pot ($0.92 rake)
Final Board: A

A

6

6

8

UTG showed 8

A

and won $19.63 ($9.48 net)
Hero showed J

A

and lost (-$10.15 net)


4) Last one is pure cooler, can't do anything here...

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SB: $11.83 (118.3 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)
UTG: $34.87 (348.7 bb)
Hero (MP): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb) 28/20 8 3 bet over 74 hands
BTN: $11.86 (118.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

Q

UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 7

7

2

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, CO calls $0.80, BB folds

Turn: ($2.55) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, CO calls $1.65

River: ($5.85) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.36, CO raises to $7.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.89 and is all-in

Results: $20.35 pot ($0.92 rake)
Final Board: 7

7

2

Q

4

Hero showed Q

Q

and lost (-$10 net)
CO showed 7

7

and won $19.43 ($9.43 net)

 

[or3o1990]

These are all coolers No Brainer. Even if the villain was a super nit you never get away from any of these so don't think on these spots too much. I think you could have lost less on the AJ but other than that you played them fine.

 

[Yoshiaki]

As or3o1990 says, they are all coolers. Not much to do but, i think on the second hand where you have QK, when you min 4 bet in the flop, you are showing SO MUCH strenght , and you isolating yourself vs the hands that are beating you AQ(4 combos) ,22(3 combos),Q2s(1 combo) ( as you can tell, there are only 8 combos beating you, and there is a lot of air in his range which will fold to a 4bet on the flop) , a good reg could fold a Q with a weaker kicker. Also you were in position, so just a call and let him continue with some of his c/raise bluffs on dry boards is fine.

 

[John A]

Thanks mate, which course would you recommend for someone who prior to black Friday was a breakeven player at 50NL full ring but is just coming back to cash games now? I think there are still a lot of things I need to brush up on but a lot of that basic stuff I can find as it is.

You might be in between, but I'd go for the Iron Lion course. If it's a little too much for you, then just let me know and we can switch you to the roots course.

 

[fishinthesea]

Been playing a lot less recently because of bovada changing the client so HUD's don't work. Sort of discouraging...

 

[rhombus]

Hand 1 is this a standard line with AK when OOP. Villain 17/15 38%AG 48 hand
Hand 2 Is this avoidable, I did notice his aggression % of 27 when he bet.


Hand1
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SB: $16.37 (163.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $17.76 (177.6 bb)
UTG: $18.70 (187 bb)
MP: $9.63 (96.3 bb)
CO: $12.09 (120.9 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

K

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.55

Flop: ($1.65) 6

9

A

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.05, BTN calls $1.05

Turn: ($3.75) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.14, Hero calls $2.14

River: ($8.03) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $6.01 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $8.03 pot ($0.36 rake)
Final Board: 6

9

A

8

T

Hero mucked A

K

and lost (-$3.99 net)
BTN mucked and won $7.67 ($3.68 net)


Hand2 Villain 34/29 27% AG after 35 hands
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SB: $10 (100 bb)
BB: $29.55 (295.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $24 (240 bb)
MP: $9.81 (98.1 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $18.02 (180.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

Q

Hero raises to $0.30, MP raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.15) J

2

4

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.55) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.90, Hero raises to $6.96, MP raises to $7.61, Hero calls $0.65

River: ($19.77) 5

(2 players)

Results: $19.77 pot ($0.89 rake)
Final Board: J

2

4

T

5

Hero showed Q

Q

and lost (-$9.81 net)
MP showed K

K

and won $18.88 ($9.07 net)