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You have stats on his river fold %?
No, Just have the LB6 HUD.

To be honest Im not a big stats man just the basics VPip/PFR Agg% etc

for what its worth onthe replayer here is his stats. ALso 4 tabling zoom dont get much chance to look ;)
 

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I think this is fine, what do you guys think?


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 19)
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 79.35 BB (VPIP: 47.06, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG+1: 195.05 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
MP: 60.2 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 19)
CO: 169.73 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 19)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:spade: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 37 BB, BB raises to 79.35 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 42.35 BB

Flop: (161.7 BB, 2 players) 9:spade: 7:spade: 5:diamond:

Turn: (161.7 BB, 2 players) 5:club:

River: (161.7 BB, 2 players) T:club:

Hero shows K:spade: A:heart: (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 43%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
BB shows J:spade: J:club: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 57%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB wins 158.7 BB

This has to be bad but he snap called my 3bet so i didn't really want to bet out here.


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.65 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): 115.1 BB
BB: 149.62 BB (VPIP: 58.06, PFR: 41.94, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 95.35 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: 190.55 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP: 32.65 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 137.05 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 34)
CO: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6:spade: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: A:diamond: 3:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets 41 BB, fold

CO wins 38.95 BB
 
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I think this is fine, what do you guys think?


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (SB): 99 BB
BB: 79.35 BB (VPIP: 47.06, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG+1: 195.05 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
MP: 60.2 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 19)
CO: 169.73 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 19)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 37 BB, BB raises to 79.35 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 42.35 BB

Flop: (161.7 BB, 2 players) 9 7 5

Turn: (161.7 BB, 2 players) 5

River: (161.7 BB, 2 players) T

Hero shows K A (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 43%, Flop 27%, Turn 14%)
BB shows J J (Two Pair, Jacks and Fives)
(Pre 57%, Flop 73%, Turn 86%)
BB wins 158.7 BB

This has to be bad but he snap called my 3bet so i didn't really want to bet out here.


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.65 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (SB): 115.1 BB
BB: 149.62 BB (VPIP: 58.06, PFR: 41.94, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 34)
UTG: 95.35 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG+1: 190.55 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
MP: 32.65 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 137.05 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 34)
CO: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 A

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 5 A 3
Hero checks, CO bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, CO bets 41 BB, fold

CO wins 38.95 BB

Hand 1
AIPF all day everyday against an aggro with 80BBs

Hand 2
Not so sure, I find myself in similar situations alot. Late position tries to steal I 3Bet with Raggy Ace and flop an ace.

Apart from I would've CBET or occasionaly delay CBET as you get alot of callers when they hit their King, Queen or Jack

As played I would have folded to his 2nd barrel as well
 
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wow just started another session and 1st hand similar to one we were just talking about

poker stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $6.02 (120.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
UTG: $5.83 (116.6 bb)
MP: $6.10 (122 bb)
CO: $5.37 (107.4 bb)
BTN: $4.55 (91 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4
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A
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4 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.80) T
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K
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A
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.80) 8
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

River: ($3.80) J
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(2 players)
SB bets $4.12 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $3.80 pot ($0.16 rake)
Final Board: T
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K
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A
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8
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J
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SB mucked and won $3.64 ($1.74 net)
Hero mucked 4
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A
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and lost (-$1.90 net)
 
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Thats one of those flops u dont put another cent in.

And its never good doing things blind. Id rather squeeze late position than sb because wider range. Sure we have position but our holding is weak
 
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Thats one of those flops u dont put another cent in.

And its never good doing things blind. Id rather squeeze late position than sb because wider range. Sure we have position but our holding is weak

Dont they have a wide weak range, and when we hit our Ace surely you have to CBET even if 3 broadway AKT they could have alot of pairs and straight draws, i.e. KQ, KJ, TJ etc
 
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Looks good. NH.

Not that Good I got stacked ;)



Raise more pre. Why are you betting so small on the flop and checking the turn? I don't understand the c/c on the river either. Either bet or check/fold.

I raised 4.5x the min raise Pre and about 60% on Flop, what sizes do you recommend.

I know when limpers its normally *3 and add 1 for each limper, what sizes for min raises? Maybe *3 and double for each limper i.e. *6 initial raise so to 0.60c


I like the turn CR, but I think at these stakes once you're called there you should probably shut down on a blank river. Your range is definitely draw heavy and the river didn't help. There's no shame in making a play and then letting it go when it doesn't make sense to follow through. A for effort though. :)

I got an A, is that for Apple :)
 
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Dont they have a wide weak range, and when we hit our Ace surely you have to CBET even if 3 broadway AKT they could have alot of pairs and straight draws, i.e. KQ, KJ, TJ etc

You got a point if we know villain . prob is no reads so we will put ourselves in hard spots

Some peeps tightest range is from sb. So thats why i question it
 
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Thanks again John for finding the time to hang out today. It's definitely appreciated! :icon_thum

Hutz, I'm not sure why we were having issues with skype but if you want shoot me a message and we can try to get it sorted out. I wouldn't mind watching you play some on Pacific! Just let me know.
 
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Hutz, I'm not sure why we were having issues with skype but if you want shoot me a message and we can try to get it sorted out. I wouldn't mind watching you play some on Pacific! Just let me know.

Internet access was cut off with my computer and maybe it caused a problem. Yes let's do it some day. I inform on time and we'll see what day suits us.
 
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Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $5.15 (103 bb)
BB: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
UTG: $5.78 (115.6 bb)
MP: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
CO: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BTN: $5.31 (106.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
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A
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UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.15, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) 3
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6
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A
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, MP raises to $0.80, Hero ???

Well first off I'm never folding on the flop here and it's too ambitious to raise so I'm calling.
without seeing his stats I can't range him properly but in my experience players will call in the bb here still fairly wide as they will have position. All pairs. Aces down to AT os and suited probably all.
So what hands raise the flop, obviously sets and 2pair but also a whole host of AT+ and flush draws. This is why we can't fold on the flop.
At the moment he has no idea how strong you are. A call from us tells him we have a decent A.
I would expect everything that we beat to check behind and take a free river card. I would expect strong value hands to keep betting the turn. So depending on how often he double barrels I might consider folding on the turn to a double barrel especially if a club arrives.
If the club's miss turn and river we might have to consider a call on the end again bearing in mind how aggressive he is and how often he goes to show down generally. If he's at all passive and betting big on the end we might have to find a fold. All aggressive types are probably getting a call from me if the club draw misses and they had checked the turn.
 
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Misread the Rhom hand slightly but makes little difference still giving mp limp call a wide range pre but giving him a bit more strength on the flop when raising into two players . Still calling on the flop though.
 
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Thanks again John for finding the time to hang out today. It's definitely appreciated! :icon_thum

Hutz, I'm not sure why we were having issues with skype but if you want shoot me a message and we can try to get it sorted out. I wouldn't mind watching you play some on Pacific! Just let me know.

For sure, you're welcome. Your game is looking better and better.
 
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Speaking of fish I need slapping round the face with one LOL

Just played another one then thought MMMmmmmmm when PreFLopRaiser is min raised on the Flop. Do you go into Showdown, Rerasie to take initiative or call and see what they do on Turn.

(They could easy have a hand like 2pair, flush draw and semi bluffing)

Then if they bet turn 1/2 pot do you call again if flush card doesnt appear then on river ??? again no flush card do you call a bet

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $5.15 (103 bb)
BB: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
UTG: $5.78 (115.6 bb)
MP: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
CO: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BTN: $5.31 (106.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
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A
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UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.15, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) 3
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6
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A
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, MP raises to $0.80, Hero ???

I mean, it's completely opponent dependent, but in general I'd fold in this spot. If someone is just min raising 2 people on this board, unless they are a complete tard, they will have 2 pair+ way too often. You don't have direct odds to try and make a better 2 pair. It might seem "weak", but the times you continue here and have to fold and/or they have a better hand will far out weight the times you're ahead.

But again, it's player dependent. I would continue here against some opponents, or fish that might over value their hands. It might seem exploitable as well, but believe me, it's not. :) It's just better to play smart poker. Think, how often does someone raise here into 2 people with AT+ versus the times they have 33/66 and two pairs. Keep in mind that he also limp called so those hands are squarely in his range PLUS you still have BB to worry about. If a guy is limp calling with AT+, I highly doubt he's now min raising 2 people with it. It just doesn't equate.
 
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I mean, it's completely opponent dependent, but in general I'd fold in this spot. If someone is just min raising 2 people on this board, unless they are a complete tard, they will have 2 pair+ way too often. You don't have direct odds to try and make a better 2 pair. It might seem "weak", but the times you continue here and have to fold and/or they have a better hand will far out weight the times you're ahead.

But again, it's player dependent. I would continue here against some opponents, or fish that might over value their hands. It might seem exploitable as well, but believe me, it's not. :) It's just better to play smart poker. Think, how often does someone raise here into 2 people with AT+ versus the times they have 33/66 and two pairs. Keep in mind that he also limp called so those hands are squarely in his range PLUS you still have BB to worry about. If a guy is limp calling with AT+, I highly doubt he's now min raising 2 people with it. It just doesn't equate.
I was actually thinking about taking control and reraising small and calling off a shove from an aggro or if I had seen him take abad beat and folding to a shove from a tight player.

I do get yours and Figs point even if it is a weak play to fold. I did actually spew and shoved but he had 333 ;). Hindsight think too weak to fold but call and fold to 2nd barrel unless I hit 2 pair.

PS I have this thing and Im sure we have all done it. Im just about to bet and I actually have a plan and say to myself bet X and if he Checkraises or Shoves I'm going to fold, but I hover the mouse ove rthe FOLD button then call instead. DO I need to make an appointment with a Doctor LOL
 
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had a couple of similar hands tonight where I bet the river and got check raised
1st one I had flush when I 3bet him Preflop and he hit bigger flush on river.

2nd one not sure 50/25 although ag of 0.8, also because Ace of hearts hit the flop he has less flushes as UTG.

When the Ace hit River I think he has pairs 88-JJ or weaker Aces, QQ KK would've probably 4Bet as well as AK

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $4.64 (92.8 bb)
BB: $5.89 (117.8 bb)
UTG: $6.09 (121.8 bb) only 21 hands but 55/25 0.8 agg so
MP: $13.96 (279.2 bb)
CO: $15.01 (300.2 bb)
BTN: $6.35 (127 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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Q
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UTG raises to $0.17, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.56, BB folds, UTG calls $0.39

Flop: ($1.17) 6
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2
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6
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.67) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($2.67) A
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, UTG raises to $2.90, Hero calls $1.45

Results: $8.47 pot ($0.35 rake)
Final Board: 6
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2
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6
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7
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A
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Hero mucked A
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Q
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and lost (-$4.21 net)
UTG showed Q
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K
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and won $8.12 ($3.91 net)
 
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Had one of my worst ever sessions this evening. I won just two hands of more than 20bb in 1400 hands and ended up tilted
The hand that it did me was utg QQ v a fish in the blinds on a 3434 board and he shoved the turn
Not happy to say the least.
I will have a good look at this session tomorrow night. Something fundamentally wrong has happened to my game over the last few months. I need to pin it down so if anyone wants to hit me up on Skype tomorrow and help me they will be most welcome.
 
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had a couple of similar hands tonight where I bet the river and got check raised
1st one I had flush when I 3bet him Preflop and he hit bigger flush on river.

2nd one not sure 50/25 although ag of 0.8, also because Ace of hearts hit the flop he has less flushes as UTG.

When the Ace hit River I think he has pairs 88-JJ or weaker Aces, QQ KK would've probably 4Bet as well as AK

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $4.64 (92.8 bb)
BB: $5.89 (117.8 bb)
UTG: $6.09 (121.8 bb) only 21 hands but 55/25 0.8 agg so
MP: $13.96 (279.2 bb)
CO: $15.01 (300.2 bb)
BTN: $6.35 (127 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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Q
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UTG raises to $0.17, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.56, BB folds, UTG calls $0.39

Flop: ($1.17) 6
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2
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6
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.67) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($2.67) A
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Hero bets $1.45, UTG raises to $2.90, Hero calls $1.45

Results: $8.47 pot ($0.35 rake)
Final Board: 6
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2
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6
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7
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A
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Hero mucked A
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Q
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and lost (-$4.21 net)
UTG showed Q
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K
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and won $8.12 ($3.91 net)

Check call river
 
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For sure, you're welcome. Your game is looking better and better.

Thanks, I'm only a couple of buy ins from 200nl now. Hopefully I can make it stick this time.
 
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or3o1990 just remember theres no deadline. Just keep up the efforts and it'll eventually work itself out.
 
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or3o1990 just remember theres no deadline. Just keep up the efforts and it'll eventually work itself out.

That is true, poker is a marathon not a sprint and im sure I'll get where i want to be with time and hard work. I feel the pressure a bit though because i have no other income at the moment.

This was an interesting series of hands. They're all against the same villain who was tight and pretty good as well. I expected clubs on the first hand but bigger clubs. I was surprised to see what he'd 4bet me with the first time around which is why I showed it no respect with the 10's. Not sure shoving is proper given his sizing but it was certainly simpler. The 10 10, AK and KK were all in one rotation if I remember correctly and the 10 9 was a few rotations earlier. I was also needling the guy a bit in the chat box in an attempt to get him to spazz out but I was unable to get a call on the end with the kings. He left after that hand.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 109.76 BB (VPIP: 5.56, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 36)
Hero (BTN): 98 BB
SB: 39 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 52.9 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: 138.05 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 40)
UTG+1: 26.25 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
MP: 94 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 97 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 66.67, Hands: 10)
MP+2: 124.6 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 19 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (39.5 BB, 2 players) 7 T 4
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (39.5 BB, 2 players) 5
CO checks, Hero bets 22 BB, CO raises to 90.76 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 57 BB and is all-in

River: (197.5 BB, 2 players) 7

CO shows 8 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 36%, Flop 24%, Turn 39%)
Hero shows T 9 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 64%, Flop 76%, Turn 61%)
CO wins 194.5 BB




PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 185.36 BB (VPIP: 14.15, PFR: 12.38, 3Bet Preflop: 13.89, Hands: 106)
Hero (SB): 111.4 BB
BB: 114.4 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
UTG: 59.2 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 8.24, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 85)
UTG+1: 140.95 BB (VPIP: 11.01, PFR: 8.26, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 110)
MP: 121.5 BB (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 59)
MP+1: 71.7 BB (VPIP: 9.21, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
CO: 100.65 BB (VPIP: 18.37, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 49)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, BTN raises to 22 BB, Hero raises to 111.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 46 BB



Not much to see here but I think it's important still


PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 163.36 BB (VPIP: 14.95, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 13.89, Hands: 107)
Hero (BTN): 135.4 BB
SB: 113.4 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
BB: 58.2 BB (VPIP: 36.05, PFR: 8.14, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 86)
UTG: 140.95 BB (VPIP: 10.91, PFR: 8.18, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 111)
UTG+1: 121.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.00, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 60)
MP: 71.7 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 3.95, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
MP+1: 100.65 BB (VPIP: 18.00, PFR: 16.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 50)
MP+2: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP+2 posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 checks, CO raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 10.5 BB



PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 159.36 BB (VPIP: 15.32, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 13.16, Hands: 111)
Hero (UTG+1): 141.9 BB
MP: 114.3 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 9.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
MP+1: 54.2 BB (VPIP: 35.56, PFR: 7.78, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 90)
CO: 139.45 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 115)
BTN: 123.65 BB (VPIP: 17.19, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 64)
SB: 70.7 BB (VPIP: 8.64, PFR: 3.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
BB: 86.81 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 6 6 9
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, UTG calls 12 BB

Turn: (43.5 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 25 BB, UTG calls 25 BB

River: (93.5 BB, 2 players) T
UTG checks, Hero raises to 95.9 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 90.5 BB

I nearly managed to get even with the guy before he left lol.
 
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I was actually thinking about taking control and reraising small and calling off a shove from an aggro or if I had seen him take abad beat and folding to a shove from a tight player.

I do get yours and Figs point even if it is a weak play to fold. I did actually spew and shoved but he had 333 ;). Hindsight think too weak to fold but call and fold to 2nd barrel unless I hit 2 pair.

PS I have this thing and Im sure we have all done it. Im just about to bet and I actually have a plan and say to myself bet X and if he Checkraises or Shoves I'm going to fold, but I hover the mouse ove rthe FOLD button then call instead. DO I need to make an appointment with a Doctor LOL

Yeah, but again, look at the logic of the hand. Especially the bolded part. Why would someone play passive with that range, and then suddenly become aggressive into 2 people?

Think, how often does someone raise here into 2 people with AT+ versus the times they have 33/66 and two pairs. Keep in mind that he also limp called so those hands are squarely in his range PLUS you still have BB to worry about. If a guy is limp calling with AT+, I highly doubt he's now min raising 2 people with it. It just doesn't equate.


As far as your doctor visit, I think we've all changed our minds in spots, but if you find a consistent pattern to what you're doing, like you're suddenly taking more passive lines instead of lines you know will be better, then that's an important question you need to ask yourself. Why am I not making the highest EV play? What am I afraid of?
 
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That is true, poker is a marathon not a sprint and im sure I'll get where i want to be with time and hard work. I feel the pressure a bit though because i have no other income at the moment.

This was an interesting series of hands. They're all against the same villain who was tight and pretty good as well. I expected clubs on the first hand but bigger clubs. I was surprised to see what he'd 4bet me with the first time around which is why I showed it no respect with the 10's.

The first hand, if he's CRAI there on that turn, that's generally not a good player. Good and pretty easy call. His range will be so draw heavy there. Good call. KK hand you should have bet a little more on the turn to make the river shove call easier.
 
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