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Too many hands for me buddy! Try to be a little more selective about the hands you want to post.
Looking at the image what is the most obvious is that none of these hands are better than 1 pair so you as a default must be overplaying them if 100bb is going in. As we've seen your wtsd is too high so I suspect there are examples here where you could have folded earlier in the hand before you start to get committed.
I used to live by the mantra don't get stacked with one pair and in the search for more value I have gotton away from that, maybe it will help you find a few more folds then appropriate.
Hands 2 4 5 6 8 all could be folded, you seem on occasions to be shoving into raises and just hoping to be in front! JJ TT in particular overplayed....easy Tiger!
thanks, in my comments I mentioned a bit of spew maybe some subconscious tilt in there lol

Do agree that shouldnt lose stacks with only 1 pair especially against the passives
 
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the 2nd set of hands

H1 AK, I would be 4 betting here a lot of the time unless he really never 3bets. I don't want to flat 3bets OOP without good reason, 4 bet is always the better option as we keep the initiative.
If we are going to call then I would just give up immediately, you are never going to be sure where you are on the paired queen board and we are OOP. Its not a case of weakness we just have so few ways to improve and even if it checks down we are losing to his JJ TT or whatever it is he's 3 bet with. Fold on the flop 25c is a chunk saved at 2nl.
so if you 4bet to 50c on the flop of QQ8 do u bet fold or check fold??

H2 JJ. What raises the turn that doesn't bet the flop when in position? This flop hits our perceived range as the aggressor and we have two backdoors so I bet the flop once and give up if called and we don't improve.
Yup think picked wrong board to delay CBET with 2 overs and flush draw

H3
As played on the turn I'd call I don't want to get raised off the hand now. Can't we squeeze this pre? A9 flops poorly.
Think I need to go over my 3bet ranges. If only BTN had rasied then prob wouldve 3Bet. I tend to call more with more people in the pot and occasionally squeeze

H4. KQ...
I know you are trying to up aggression levels but it has to make sense in the hand as a whole. The monotone board also means no decent flush draw is folding.
What do we rep when the turn card J arrives? It changes nothing in the hand, in which case if we didn't we raise the flop then why turn raise? maybe AK with a heart who wanted to get abit more value maybe, also wanted to get value from a Jack with a heart

We have showdown value so we don't need to turn our hand into a bluff at this point. If he's bluffing and his range will have plenty of FD and air here then let him keep bluffing. As it happened he had a hand and missed value on the end. Sick hand and make notes on this guy.

H5 A3.
We are raising against UTG so unless he is opening wide this is pretty much a steal, if it fails I give up. As its basically a steal we need to bet bigger.
Prob agree better to 3bet against CO or BTN and call against UTG as deep so good implied odds If I flop 2 pair against his AK or good flsuh drqw and easy to get away from when I miss

PS prob a bad idea to post 2 sets of hands especially 8 in the 1st set:p
 
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H1 AK, I would be 4 betting here a lot of the time unless he really never 3bets. I don't want to flat 3bets OOP without good reason, 4 bet is always the better option as we keep the initiative.
If we are going to call then I would just give up immediately, you are never going to be sure where you are on the paired queen board and we are OOP. Its not a case of weakness we just have so few ways to improve and even if it checks down we are losing to his JJ TT or whatever it is he's 3 bet with. Fold on the flop 25c is a chunk saved at 2nl.
so if you 4bet to 50c on the flop of QQ8 do u bet fold or check fold??

This is virtually the same situation as I posted a week or so ago. 4 pot bet with AK oop on a paired board
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cas...er-vol-i-study-group-227214/post-2746397.html
Johns advice was not to bet.
 
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your 2cents is very welcome :) occasionally I will raise scary flops as the non Preflop aggressor, but maybe when donked into should've called the CBET and see what they do on Turn.

I know some will say fold but seems so exploitable when alot of people 3Bet light to donk lead on scary boards. Even if you have AA you arent going to feel comfortable when they donk Flop then lead again on Turn and River. Do you call down a Reg and go for showdown. Against a NIT then I'd maybe call flop with AA with a club and fold Turn if a club didnt appear
I'm almost certainly calling one street at least but it really depends on what I think about the guy. I know that I'm making a decision right then and there though. Either I'm looking to call down against splashy player or planning to fold when a tighter player is putting the pressure on. Because the villain can be defending a made hand or leading with a huge draw I'm wanting to see with what frequency they're donk betting.

I'm betting to protect against draws here but should I instead just be trying to get to showdown? Is this a better line if I instead had A 10? And if I did do I call the turn?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 97 BB
CO: 98 BB
Hero (BTN): 170.75 BB
SB: 48.18 BB
BB: 107 BB
UTG: 131.85 BB
UTG+1: 93.5 BB
MP: 23.6 BB
MP+1: 25.65 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 8

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 8 3 T
UTG checks, Hero bets 7 BB, UTG calls 7 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 13 BB, UTG raises to 38.54 BB, fold

UTG wins 48.95 BB

I only had 6 hands on this guy but he was being very splashy! I felt like after I check raised the flop I had to bet the turn and when I did I felt pot committed so I went with it. Thoughts?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 32.25 BB
MP: 40.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 98.5 BB
CO: 178.2 BB
BTN: 197.34 BB
SB: 62.34 BB
BB: 99.7 BB
UTG: 30.65 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, CO raises to 5.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Flop: (13.5 BB, 2 players) J 3 3
Hero checks, CO bets 6.75 BB, Hero raises to 19.5 BB, CO calls 12.75 BB

Turn: (52.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 25 BB, CO raises to 153.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 48.5 BB and is all-in

River: (199.5 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Threes)
(Pre 52%, Flop 50%, Turn 68%)
CO shows K A (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 48%, Flop 50%, Turn 32%)
Hero wins 196.5 BB
 
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Hi John.

Im halfways through your book, and ive just finnished the chapter about playing aggressive vs passive.
In your book you state that aggressive players will the most of the time have a more profitable game, and you recommend playing aggresive in most spots. So, I saw your stats.. And with your generel VPIP on 24%-28% I just cant get the meaning of what your are writing in your book.

Does it mean, that aggressive and loose isnt the same?
And does it mean, that you recommend playing aggressive, but only with good hands.
 
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I'm currently running bad for last 3 days, normally play 1000 hands when i get a chance although stopped after a 150-200 last 2 nights after frustation

Think the high wtsd and low W$SD is more down to just running into top of their ranges or them getting their on the river.

Seems to be everytime i 3bet light then Cbet they have it but when I 3bet with good hands they fold:( (Dont 3bet light easy fix:))
Miss most draws but they hit when they are drawing, this then has a knockon effect of playin bad or is it. Some coolers or may not

Overall need to learn to fold overpairs when the real money goes in at best I am going to be up against a massive draw at best on most occasions. Try not to get stacks in preflop maybe exception AA KK and QQ unles they are realy nitty then QQ can be folded

I think you're probably over adjusting. I mean 3-bet of 10%+ is probably too much. That's not where the aggression needs to be. It needs to be post flop, and you need to make more definitive decisions about when you're dumping a hand or continuing on - have a plan.

I'm thinking about writing out a tree or sorts for common post flop spots. Amounts you should be betting if you're unsure of the situation w/ top pair, middle pair, draws, etc...

So for those who struggle w/ aggression, they have a default guide they can reference when they are unsure. Thoughts?
 
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I'm betting to protect against draws here but should I instead just be trying to get to showdown? Is this a better line if I instead had A 10? And if I did do I call the turn?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 97 BB
CO: 98 BB
Hero (BTN): 170.75 BB
SB: 48.18 BB
BB: 107 BB
UTG: 131.85 BB
UTG+1: 93.5 BB
MP: 23.6 BB
MP+1: 25.65 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 8

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (11.5 BB, 2 players) 8 3 T
UTG checks, Hero bets 7 BB, UTG calls 7 BB

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 13 BB, UTG raises to 38.54 BB, fold

UTG wins 48.95 BB

I only had 6 hands on this guy but he was being very splashy! I felt like after I check raised the flop I had to bet the turn and when I did I felt pot committed so I went with it. Thoughts?

w/ the 1st hand, you played it fine. Against a limp / caller you're betting the turn there. Maybe if you had more reads you can all the turn since there's not a lot they will have they'd want to CR besides 33/55. But bet / fold is ideal.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 32.25 BB
MP: 40.8 BB
Hero (MP+1): 98.5 BB
CO: 178.2 BB
BTN: 197.34 BB
SB: 62.34 BB
BB: 99.7 BB
UTG: 30.65 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, CO raises to 5.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Flop: (13.5 BB, 2 players) J 3 3
Hero checks, CO bets 6.75 BB, Hero raises to 19.5 BB, CO calls 12.75 BB

Turn: (52.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 25 BB, CO raises to 153.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 48.5 BB and is all-in

River: (199.5 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero shows 7 7 (Two Pair, Sevens and Threes)
(Pre 52%, Flop 50%, Turn 68%)
CO shows K A (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 48%, Flop 50%, Turn 32%)
Hero wins 196.5 BB
With this last hand, why did you limp behind w/ 77? Why are you CR the flop? Given that you bet the turn, yes, you need to call the shove because him just calling and given the pre-flop action his range will be wide enough with draws, but it's pretty close to neutral to -EV.
 
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I think you're probably over adjusting. I mean 3-bet of 10%+ is probably too much. That's not where the aggression needs to be. It needs to be post flop, and you need to make more definitive decisions about when you're dumping a hand or continuing on - have a plan.

I'm thinking about writing out a tree or sorts for common post flop spots. Amounts you should be betting if you're unsure of the situation w/ top pair, middle pair, draws, etc...

So for those who struggle w/ aggression, they have a default guide they can reference when they are unsure. Thoughts?

That would be awesome:D

I know sometimes Pre Flop charts and set lines can be classed as robotic or a fixed strategy but I see it more as a default strategy when things don't seem to be going well, kind of a baseline, then develop the game from there.

Re charts maybe i ned to go back to them as my 3Betting especially defending from blinds is too high. When you hear "dontcall from the blinds too much" I take it literaly and Bet" I blame you guys LOL
 
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With this last hand, why did you limp behind w/ 77? Why are you CR the flop? Given that you bet the turn, yes, you need to call the shove because him just calling and given the pre-flop action his range will be wide enough with draws, but it's pretty close to neutral to -EV.

I've been opening up my over limping range some because it was nearly nil before, I would just attack the limps every time and I would do this quite wide in position. Then I was in a lot more tricky spots and bigger pots with marginal hands and weak pairs. So I've slightly tightened the range I'm attacking limps with and opened up the range I'm over limping.

I check raised the flop because this guy was splashing around a bunch so I expected he would attack our limps kind of wide and that I'm winning on the flop more often than not. Sticking around with the diamonds makes sense but if he had AK or AQo I just take the pot down right there and don't allow him to draw. He's not folding a J but this line may be enough to get rid of 88 and 99 too. Maybe not against this guy, idk.
 
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Is this a +EV river call by my opponent?

iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 118.86 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 62.50, Hands: 14)
Hero (BTN): 118.95 BB
SB: 120.1 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 118.05 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 79.4 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 14)
MP: 103.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:club: T:diamond:

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) T:club: T:heart: K:diamond:
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB, fold

Turn: (31 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 19.5 BB, SB calls 19.5 BB

River: (70 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 86.45 BB, SB calls 86.45 BB

Hero shows 7:club: T:diamond: (Four of a Kind, Tens)

Hero wins 239.9 BB
 
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Is this a +EV river call by my opponent?

iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 118.86 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 62.50, Hands: 14)
Hero (BTN): 118.95 BB
SB: 120.1 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 118.05 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG: 79.4 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 14)
MP: 103.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 T

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 3 players) T T K
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 9 BB, SB calls 9 BB, fold

Turn: (31 BB, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero bets 19.5 BB, SB calls 19.5 BB

River: (70 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero bets 86.45 BB, SB calls 86.45 BB

Hero shows 7 T (Four of a Kind, Tens)

Hero wins 239.9 BB
because you asked the question id say no LOL.

Also the line you take would indicate AA (6 combos) a Ten for the win (at least 4 combos playing the suited Tens T9s, JTs, QTs, ATs or A King for the split.

So lots more combos that they lose and split and not enough bluffs
 
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He he Quads paid for me too

I'm learning to crush those flops.
Like your Tens they just don't believe you have it.

poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $25 (100 bb)
BB: $23.85 (95.4 bb)
UTG+2: $19.52 (78.1 bb) FISH
MP1: $37.41 (149.6 bb) Passive reg... low wtsd
MP2: $62.90 (251.6 bb)
MP3: $25 (100 bb)
CO: $42.93 (171.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 9
UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.60) J J 9 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets $1.24, Hero calls $1.24, UTG+2 calls $1.24

Turn: ($6.32) J (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets $3.02, Hero calls $3.02, UTG+2 calls $3.02

River: ($15.38) Q (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets $32.40 and is all-in, Hero calls $19.99 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds

Results: $55.36 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: J J 9 J Q
UTG+2 mucked and lost (-$5.01 net)
MP1 showed Q Q and lost (-$25.00 net)
Hero showed J 9 and won $53.36 ($28.36 net):)

Turn J saved me from a cooler with the Q giving the reg a bigger boat than the one I flopped.
 
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Ive called a lot with fullhouses n been good... but u cant say its +ev cuz its against you... but say against a playing bluffing crazy maniac style then perhaps. U are an unknown to him but gee hard place for him lol prolly just wants to go broke and quit poker

Ur prolly just being sarcastic :)
 
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3 buyins gonw in 10 mins in 3 hands.
Hand 1 Not sure if easy fold, but think my bet sizes werent great
Hand 2 Played it bad. Why I didnt check Raise the turn. Or maybe just lead out
Hand 3 maybe tilting as I put him on a Queen but maybe too optimistic at these levels to get a fold.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $24.26 (485.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5 (100 bb) 14/9/Ag 0.8 3B 5 hands 59
MP: $6.97 (139.4 bb)
CO: $6.50 (130 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3
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3
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Hero raises to $0.15, MP folds, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 3
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7
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T
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN folds

Turn: ($1.12) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, CO calls $0.70

River: ($2.52) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.85, CO raises to $5.35 and is all-in, Hero calls $2 and is all-in

Results: $10.22 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 3
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7
spade4.gif
T
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5
club4.gif
J
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Hero showed 3
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3
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and lost (-$5 net)
CO showed 9
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8
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and won $9.80 ($4.80 net)

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $4.71 (94.2 bb)
BB: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
UTG: $11.25 (225 bb)
MP: $6.83 (136.6 bb) 50/50 after 2 hands
CO: $5.46 (109.2 bb)
BTN: $6.38 (127.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
spade4.gif
K
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UTG folds, MP raises to $0.10, CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, MP calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.40) K
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3
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J
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.85, MP calls $0.85, BTN folds

Turn: ($3.10) 5
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($5.70) Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.11 and is all-in

Results: $9.92 pot ($0.41 rake)
Final Board: K
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3
diamond4.gif
J
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5
heart4.gif
Q
heart4.gif

Hero showed A
spade4.gif
K
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and lost (-$4.71 net)
MP showed A
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T
spade4.gif
and won $9.51 ($4.80 net)

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.07 (21.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.08 (101.6 bb)
UTG: $2.50 (50 bb)
MP: $11.42 (228.4 bb) 25/25 Ag 1.8 3B13.6 after 62 hands
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.54 (110.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7
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5
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UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 2
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4
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Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.72) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, MP calls $0.90

River: ($3.32) 3
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(2 players)
Hero bets $3.18, MP calls $3.18

Results: $9.68 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: 2
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4
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Q
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T
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3
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Hero showed 7
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5
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and lost (-$4.83 net)
MP showed A
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Q
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and won $9.28 ($4.45 net)
 
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Reply hand 1 and 2 I hate them and wish I could bite their fishy knee caps, they are drawing against the odds and getting there. That being the case we can't pay them off. The first hand is well disguised and we have a set so that's a cooler. hand two a flush draw comes in as well buts its back door and difficult to believe he was trying to hit a gut shot so I dont blame you but we are back to that dont get stacked with 1 pair theme.
Hand 3 fold pre...against a 25% raising range we are a 63% 37% dog and oop.
Again you are raising when the turn card makes no difference to the hand,,,,what are you repping?
 
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75s why bet the river with air??

Keep the pot low and just flat the turn
 
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because you asked the question id say no LOL.

Also the line you take would indicate AA (6 combos) a Ten for the win (at least 4 combos playing the suited Tens T9s, JTs, QTs, ATs or A King for the split.

So lots more combos that they lose and split and not enough bluffs

Yeah, good. I see people call this too often, and that's why I posted it (and shoved). :) Both hand ranges are super clear here. So if I have Kx, I'm trying to get value from a stubborn 88-99 hand, and not trying to push Kx off a split enough of the time to warrant the call. Most of my Kx bets will be more like 2/3rds or less of the pot and not an over shove. It just makes more sense to try and get value from those other hands, and not get owned by Tx or push Kx off the split. Now, if I could always push Kx off the split, then I think it would be better to shove, but it's just not the reality of what tends to happen. Most people call too often there.

Any ways, glad you guys got it.
 
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Sweat today?

Yeah, but I thought I was going to be able to play, and I don't think that's going to happen now. I have a call at 2 I need to jump on for business. I'll jump on for a bit to watch you guys though if you set it up.
 
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Ive called a lot with fullhouses n been good... but u cant say its +ev cuz its against you... but say against a playing bluffing crazy maniac style then perhaps. U are an unknown to him but gee hard place for him lol prolly just wants to go broke and quit poker

Ur prolly just being sarcastic :)

Yeah, no sarcasm this time. :angel:

But, seriously... I'm going to have a good amount of Tx combos because I'm isoing the fish wide here. AA and the fact that if I over shove, I'm going getting called by splits. Where is I value bet, I can get called wider. So I'd have to push splits out a lot for it to be profitable versus the time I have AA and Tx. I don't think it's a huge -EV. But overall long term it is.
 
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3 buyins gonw in 10 mins in 3 hands.
Hand 1 Not sure if easy fold, but think my bet sizes werent great
Hand 2 Played it bad. Why I didnt check Raise the turn. Or maybe just lead out
Hand 3 maybe tilting as I put him on a Queen but maybe too optimistic at these levels to get a fold.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $24.26 (485.2 bb)
Hero (UTG): $5 (100 bb) 14/9/Ag 0.8 3B 5 hands 59
MP: $6.97 (139.4 bb)
CO: $6.50 (130 bb)
BTN: $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3
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3
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Hero raises to $0.15, MP folds, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 3
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7
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T
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, CO calls $0.30, BTN folds

Turn: ($1.12) 5
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, CO calls $0.70

River: ($2.52) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.85, CO raises to $5.35 and is all-in, Hero calls $2 and is all-in

Results: $10.22 pot ($0.42 rake)
Final Board: 3
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7
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T
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5
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J
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Hero showed 3
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3
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and lost (-$5 net)
CO showed 9
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8
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and won $9.80 ($4.80 net)

Looks good. NH.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $4.71 (94.2 bb)
BB: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
UTG: $11.25 (225 bb)
MP: $6.83 (136.6 bb) 50/50 after 2 hands
CO: $5.46 (109.2 bb)
BTN: $6.38 (127.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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K
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UTG folds, MP raises to $0.10, CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, BB folds, MP calls $0.35, BTN calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.40) K
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3
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J
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.85, MP calls $0.85, BTN folds

Turn: ($3.10) 5
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.30, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($5.70) Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $4.23 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.11 and is all-in

Results: $9.92 pot ($0.41 rake)
Final Board: K
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3
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J
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5
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Q
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Hero showed A
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K
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and lost (-$4.71 net)
MP showed A
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T
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and won $9.51 ($4.80 net)

Raise more pre. Why are you betting so small on the flop and checking the turn? I don't understand the c/c on the river either. Either bet or check/fold.

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $1.07 (21.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.08 (101.6 bb)
UTG: $2.50 (50 bb)
MP: $11.42 (228.4 bb) 25/25 Ag 1.8 3B13.6 after 62 hands
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.54 (110.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7
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5
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UTG folds, MP raises to $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 2
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4
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Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.72) T
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, MP calls $0.90

River: ($3.32) 3
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(2 players)
Hero bets $3.18, MP calls $3.18

Results: $9.68 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: 2
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4
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Q
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T
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3
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Hero showed 7
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5
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and lost (-$4.83 net)
MP showed A
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Q
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and won $9.28 ($4.45 net)

I like the turn CR, but I think at these stakes once you're called there you should probably shut down on a blank river. Your range is definitely draw heavy and the river didn't help. There's no shame in making a play and then letting it go when it doesn't make sense to follow through. A for effort though. :)
 
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Reply hand 1 and 2 I hate them and wish I could bite their fishy knee caps, they are drawing against the odds and getting there. That being the case we can't pay them off. The first hand is well disguised and we have a set so that's a cooler. hand two a flush draw comes in as well buts its back door and difficult to believe he was trying to hit a gut shot so I dont blame you but we are back to that dont get stacked with 1 pair theme.
Hand 3 fold pre...against a 25% raising range we are a 63% 37% dog and oop.
Again you are raising when the turn card makes no difference to the hand,,,,what are you repping?
Speaking of fish I need slapping round the face with one LOL

Just played another one then thought MMMmmmmmm when PreFLopRaiser is min raised on the Flop. Do you go into Showdown, Rerasie to take initiative or call and see what they do on Turn.

(They could easy have a hand like 2pair, flush draw and semi bluffing)

Then if they bet turn 1/2 pot do you call again if flush card doesnt appear then on river ??? again no flush card do you call a bet

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $5.15 (103 bb)
BB: $6.54 (130.8 bb)
UTG: $5.78 (115.6 bb)
MP: $6.36 (127.2 bb)
CO: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
BTN: $5.31 (106.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
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A
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UTG folds, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BB calls $0.15, MP calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) 3
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6
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A
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(3 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40, MP raises to $0.80, Hero ???
 
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75s why bet the river with air??

Keep the pot low and just flat the turn
tried to take initiative in the hand and to rep made set or TTT or 2pair QT. Then bombed river closed eyes and prayed ;)
 
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