Haha that could be! The villain in my hand most likely played back at me like this because I was aggressive the hand before as well. His sizing is what made me not so confident, it seemed as if he really wanted a call. I know sometimes but not often I run into KJ, QJ or a boat.Your thought process is a little confusing here. You tried to induce a bluff on the river, and got one, but weren't confident in the call? Also, I'm not sure why you think he'd try and bluff the river to begin with (because of hearts, or gut shot?). Especially someone who is limp/calling. And yes, draw heavy boards will hit limp/call ranges, but more like 7h8hXx kind of boards. You should just be going for straight value by betting larger on ever street. If you were looking to induce a bluff, then an even smaller bet would need to be done. Something like 1/3rd of the pot or less.
I like the effort though! It's good you're thinking like this. I guess one of the hands you saw me play today influenced this a bit.
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question..
Im sorry if its not.
So, im grinding low stakes 0.05/0.02 NL holdem 6-max atm, and im doing quite nice.
Atm im just working on my bankroll.
Is it a normal thing, than ppl call on hands like Q-9 offsuited, K-5 Suited etc.
Is that a normal hand selection on 6-max?
Ive seen people on UTG and middle position calling with these hands
its not normal ranges but at the micros some players call with everythingI dont know if this is the right place to ask this question..
Im sorry if its not.
So, im grinding low stakes 0.05/0.02 NL holdem 6-max atm, and im doing quite nice.
Atm im just working on my bankroll.
Is it a normal thing, than ppl call on hands like Q-9 offsuited, K-5 Suited etc.
Is that a normal hand selection on 6-max?
Ive seen people on UTG and middle position calling with these hands
Why didnt you bet flop and end the hand on flop??? If checking cuz worse hands cant call ?? Then i understand flop
Turn, I don't mind a small bet. I think I'd bet here most of the time, but decided to check through to see the hand honestly. It was 3 hands into a session and didn't know anything about him. He had 67s.But y not turn... obv our oppon3nt had pp he wouldve stabbed flop? Or hear him on turn??
Seems he has ak when 3 streets checked or Aj or something... Or you have a read on him and he's just drawing value from pocket type hands which when I was on 888 at 10nl and 20nl I did see a bit of. Passive players.
My leakbuster is all green except turn aggression which is slightly under
Thanks for trying to fit us in last night John I enjoyed listening to you beating yourself up for a lost value mistake. The turn bet with KK on the 4578 board was informative I was never putting us 68% fav against his range. I will store that away and make sure I'm betting there in future.
Afterwards or3o sweated me for about 400 hands of 25nl FR on Stars and I managed to get the stack back that I lost on the KQcc hand. Villain there had QQ (1combo). My mouse problems caused us to switch and I watched or3o on the 100nl Bovada for an hour.
With the trip Jacks hand my recollection was that or3o wanted to check behind .. but fearing losing value I urged him to bet on the end and we decided on half pot. Tbh I wasn't expecting a call as it just looked like a busted draw..and then we got raised which he snapped off instantly. The pot odds were too good not to call there. I don't understand the villains bluff sizing with 44 at all but I agree 30% is a better river sizing for us. It's an easier call for a mid pair and gives the villain more leverage on a river bluff.
I dont know if this is the right place to ask this question..
Im sorry if its not.
So, im grinding low stakes 0.05/0.02 NL holdem 6-max atm, and im doing quite nice.
Atm im just working on my bankroll.
Is it a normal thing, than ppl call on hands like Q-9 offsuited, K-5 Suited etc.
Is that a normal hand selection on 6-max?
Ive seen people on UTG and middle position calling with these hands
Not much of interest in my session
Here we let a fish keep firing by just calling on the turn and letting him bluff at the river.
The guy simply never gave up trying to win any hand
Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $20.60 (82.4 bb) 30/6/40 in 66 hands
Hero (BB): $26.33 (105.3 bb)
UTG+2: $30.78 (123.1 bb)
MP1: $25.76 (103 bb)
MP2: $26.65 (106.6 bb)
MP3: $34.41 (137.6 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $34.62 (138.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with A♣ J♣
6 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.75
Flop: ($2) 6♠ 2♥ 4♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.95, SB calls $0.95
Turn: ($3.90) J♥ (2 players)
SB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25
River: ($8.40) 4♠ (2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8
Results: $24.40 pot ($1.10 rake)
Final Board: 6♠ 2♥ 4♣ J♥ 4♠
SB showed 5♦ K♦ and lost (-$12.20 net)
Hero showed A♣ J♣ and won $23.30 ($11.10 net)
another rollercoaster ride in the wacky world of 2nl
Deep again but trying to avoid stacking off with AK Preflop
Time of Hand villain 19/13/2.0 3Bet 6.1
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $3.80 (190 bb)
BB: $3.08 (154 bb)
Hero (UTG): $7.13 (356.5 bb)
MP: $4.33 (216.5 bb)
CO: $2.25 (112.5 bb)
BTN: $0.73 (36.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with KA
Hero raises to $0.06, MP raises to $0.18, 3 folds, BB calls $0.16, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.55) 799(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.26, BB calls $0.26, Hero calls $0.26
Turn: ($1.33) A(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.92, BB folds, Hero ???????
The consistent pattern I see going with you, and something that will help to decrease wtsd, increase w$sd and aggression is you're not folding on the flop enough. You open UTG, get 3-bet in the next position and check call MW on this flop. It's a pretty easy fold, especially after BB calls. Can you explain your through process of what you were doing there?
So I've been practicing nailing flops lately John and it's working out nicely
This was intended as a 4b bluff. The guy in the blinds was 3betting 12% and folding to 3bets 67% and I'd been very tight at the table so I gave it a go.. But I get weirded out by the pot/stack ratio. It doesn't seem right to bet half pot or to shove (although shoving seems less wrong)?? He is 3betting pretty wide but when he called I figure he has AA, AK, AQ, KK, JJ, 10 10? Is this too narrow of an assumption you think? I assumed the J's and 10's would fold and the rest would call and I beat most of those but when he snap folds I don't feel great about shoving it anymore..
PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
SB: 76.15 BB
BB: 116.7 BB
UTG: 47 BB
MP: 46 BB
CO: 36.85 BB
Hero (BTN): 93.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ 9♥
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 28 BB, BB calls 18 BB
Flop: (56.5 BB, 2 players) Q♦ K♣ Q♣
BB checks, Hero raises to 65.5 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 53.7 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ 9♥
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 28 BB, BB calls 18 BB
Flop: (56.5 BB, 2 players) Q♦ K♣ Q♣
BB checks, Hero raises to 65.5 BB and is all-in, fold
Hero wins 53.7 BB[
Seems fine to me slight over pot shove. Difficult to see worse calling. I might have tried to extract value with a much smaller turn bet to get a call or induce something from him.
If we bet say 18bb-22bb this is a much easier call for AA AK then if he calls the pot is 80 and we can shove around 40bb into 80 which gives him a better price to call the river.
Preflop: Hero is UTG with KThe consistent pattern I see going with you, and something that will help to decrease wtsd, increase w$sd and aggression is you're not folding on the flop enough. You open UTG, get 3-bet in the next position and check call MW on this flop. It's a pretty easy fold, especially after BB calls. Can you explain your through process of what you were doing there?
The consistent pattern I see going with you, and something that will help to decrease wtsd, increase w$sd and aggression is you're not folding on the flop enough.
It's kind of an art form and I'm working to perfect it! I don't know why I spazz out about the stack/pot ratio thing. I need to relax and just try to take all of the money next time!See, I knew you'd learn something if you sweated me. Nailing flops is a skill that's not the easiest thing to teach, but you're a quick study!
I get the flop call but I don't like the check raise on the turn that much. What is calling besides a 9 or an ace. Most of the ragged aces aren't going to want to get it all in anyways. The only hands that want to play for stacks are trips and boats. What did you think about the villian in this hand? You could have 4bet and most likely just have taken it down pre.Preflop: Hero is UTG with KA
Hero raises to $0.06, MP raises to $0.18, 3 folds, BB calls $0.16, Hero calls $0.12
Flop: ($0.55) 799(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.26, BB calls $0.26, Hero calls $0.26
Turn: ($1.33) A(3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.92, BB folds, Hero ???????
just thought it was too exploitable to fold with 2overs and backdoor nut flush. If Ace, King or Spade didnt hit the turn then definitely fold.
It wasn't so much Tilt maybe frustration as a few hands before on that table I had over 500bbs and eventually ended up with 60.
this is how it ended
BB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.92, BB folds, Hero raises to $2.52, MP calls $1.60
River: ($6.37) 7(2 players)
Hero bets $3.07, MP calls $1.37 and is all-in
Results: $9.11 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 799A7
Hero showed KAand won $0.00 (-$4.33 net)
MP showed 98and won $8.81 ($4.48 net)
I get the flop call but I don't like the check raise on the turn that much. What is calling besides a 9 or an ace. Most of the ragged aces aren't going to want to get it all in anyways. The only hands that want to play for stacks are trips and boats. What did you think about the villian in this hand? You could have 4bet and most likely just have taken it down pre.
I could use a dose of my own advice though. I ran into trip 10's twice today and called off a buy in with tptk like a fish.. I don't usually tilt but this was a clear cut case of winners tilt on my part. I've been running like god the past few days and somehow turned into an overly optimistic fish as if I'm always going to be right.. I'll probably be taking the rest of the night off and start fresh tomorrow.