Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[John A]

anyway enough about the bacon butties MMMMM i'm hungry now.

Back to business, Like the chart to give you standard default lines when things are going wrong.

Sometimes you read book watch videos, read strategy articles - some are really good, some are ok then some are awful. Think the key is to separate the good from the bad and study those.

My main problem stems from so much information to process and alot of conflicting advice, then when playing you get to certain situations and your mind goes blank. Im waiting for that eureka moment where all the pieces of the jigsaw in my subconscious suddenly start to piece together

Ideally Id have bulleted pointed topics to go over and over and over and over etc to ingrain them so majority of situations are default but can change at will depending on players/dynamics/position etc.

Some people will say its a fixed robotic strategy but its just a default line to go to when things start to wrong and can stay there till your confidence and possibly bankroll increases and as already mentioned you can change at will when a good situation arises.

Totally understand. And there is a lot of bad advice out there. A LOT. So I understand how and why it's hard to sort through to find the good stuff. I'm going to be adding some content to Polished Poker including the below completed default lines. Which, these are the same as starting hand charts. They are general guides in case you're stuck and not sure what to do. But they shouldn't always be followed.

 

[or3o1990]

Could it be?!?

It is! It's the secret map to One Eyed Willie's treasure!!

Nice work John!

 

[rhombus]

Could it be?!?

It is! It's the secret map to One Eyed Willie's treasure!!

Nice work John!

Very nice but does it look as good as my butty

 

[or3o1990]

Lol the bacon butty is definitely -EV!

 

[hutzpaf]

888 Poker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 100.75 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 20.59, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, hands: 36)
CO: 105.75 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 99.75 BB (VPIP: 35.42, PFR: 23.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 101)
SB: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: Q:spade:

fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5.25 BB, CO calls 3.25 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 2 players) 5:spade: 7:heart: J:spade:
Hero C-bet ? how much (pre - should have raise more)

888 Poker - $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 193.5 BB (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 20.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 35.75 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
BB: 82.75 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 13)
UTG: 117 BB (VPIP: 28.85, PFR: 17.31, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 53)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: 8:diamond:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) K:club: 7:spade: 6:diamond:
UTG bets 5.5 BB, Hero?


It was difficult to tell what you're doing because the first I thought of the situation in Finnish and then translated it in English. This was the first time I tried this - thank you for railing me or3o

 

[Aces2w1n]

I like the 3bet size pre if its a decent reg

... fishy or callers we can do x4

Flop id do 2/3 generally should get the same amount of folds as 3/4 at a cheaper price meaning we save money

 

[rhombus]

not a pretty graph for last 3K hands played in last 2 days, but still not tilting

Also 2 hands from tonight
Hand 1 (no stats on opponet only 2 hands), normally its one of the hands where I'd call down with top pair but once the non aggressor donk leads nearly pot on the tune when a brick hits surely its strength. flopped set or 67 or min 2 pairs
poker stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $4.67 (93.4 bb)
BB: $2.45 (49 bb)
UTG: $5.73 (114.6 bb)
MP: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (200 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9

T

2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, SB folds, BB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.38) 8

9

5

(3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, CO folds

Turn: ($0.88) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $0.84, Hero folds

Results: $0.88 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: 8

9

5

2

BB mucked and won $0.84 ($0.47 net)
Hero mucked 9

T

and lost (-$0.37 net)

Hand 2 - Stats 14/14 AG 6.0 3B 25.0
Considering opponents stats he had a wide range I think calling 3Bet in position was OK. Not sure what else I could have done in this hand, thought I played it perfectly (thought about raising flop with double gutter) Maybe you could say I was representing just flush on Turn but I also could have flopped set and was charging there flush draws

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.86 (277.2 bb)
BB: $21.40 (428 bb)
UTG: $5.05 (101 bb)
MP: $5.77 (115.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.50 (110 bb)
BTN: $12.12 (242.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

T

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.92) Q

8

6

(2 players)
BB bets $0.58, Hero calls $0.58

Turn: ($2.08) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $1.32, Hero raises to $4.09, BB raises to $20.37, Hero calls $0.38

River: ($11.02) T

(2 players)

Results: $11.02 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: Q

8

6

2

T

BB showed A

A

and won $10.56 ($5.06 net)
Hero showed 9

T

and lost (-$5.50 net)

 

[rhombus]

also 2 comparison stats at 10K hands stage between 2nl and 5nl

5nl stats look better than 2nl ignoring amount won as was running alot worse at 2nl
closer VPIPand PFR
3bet still too high
WTSD% is lower , W$SD higher
Agg and agg% higher

 

[or3o1990]

Hand 2 - Stats 14/14 AG 6.0 3B 25.0
Considering opponents stats he had a wide range I think calling 3Bet in position was OK. Not sure what else I could have done in this hand, thought I played it perfectly (thought about raising flop with double gutter) Maybe you could say I was representing just flush on Turn but I also could have flopped set and was charging there flush draws

I'm not really a fan of this float honestly. A gutshot and some backdoor draws isn't enough for me here without some sort of serious read. If I know the guy is giving up most of the time if his c bet doesn't get through then maybe I'd float. I like 3bet folding the flop if I think the villain is 3betting and cbetting wide otherwise I'd just fold.

 

[masadad]

not a pretty graph for last 3K hands played in last 2 days, but still not tilting

Also 2 hands from tonight
Hand 1 (no stats on opponet only 2 hands), normally its one of the hands where I'd call down with top pair but once the non aggressor donk leads nearly pot on the tune when a brick hits surely its strength. flopped set or 67 or min 2 pairs
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $4.67 (93.4 bb)
BB: $2.45 (49 bb)
UTG: $5.73 (114.6 bb)
MP: $5.02 (100.4 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $10 (200 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9

T

2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, SB folds, BB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.38) 8

9

5

(3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25, CO folds

Turn: ($0.88) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $0.84, Hero folds

Results: $0.88 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: 8

9

5

2

BB mucked and won $0.84 ($0.47 net)
Hero mucked 9

T

and lost (-$0.37 net)

Hand 2 - Stats 14/14 AG 6.0 3B 25.0
Considering opponents stats he had a wide range I think calling 3Bet in position was OK. Not sure what else I could have done in this hand, thought I played it perfectly (thought about raising flop with double gutter) Maybe you could say I was representing just flush on Turn but I also could have flopped set and was charging there flush draws

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.86 (277.2 bb)
BB: $21.40 (428 bb)
UTG: $5.05 (101 bb)
MP: $5.77 (115.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.50 (110 bb)
BTN: $12.12 (242.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

T

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BB raises to $0.45, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.92) Q

8

6

(2 players)
BB bets $0.58, Hero calls $0.58

Turn: ($2.08) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $1.32, Hero raises to $4.09, BB raises to $20.37, Hero calls $0.38

River: ($11.02) T

(2 players)

Results: $11.02 pot ($0.46 rake)
Final Board: Q

8

6

2

T

BB showed A

A

and won $10.56 ($5.06 net)
Hero showed 9

T

and lost (-$5.50 net)

i feel you!

 

[masadad]

so i am desperately seeking for some help here with a few things.

and i also need tips.

1. what do i tell myself when i try my best to play poker following good practices only to find myself handing over my entire stack to some donk who hits a boat or something on the river. knowing none of it is my fault and that i played it absolutely right. it's right after these hands that one starts tilting.
honestly even the most experienced players would find it difficult to walk away from trying something stupid after these stupid beats. but i like to think i have the patience needed to not make stupid moves in such scenarios. i am just looking for some guidance and tips to walk away from it.

2. what do i tell myself to fold hands like this(see below) preflop vs an aggressive donk who 3bets with hand ranges like anything at all. i played on that table well without tilting even once and making so many good folds. after 100 or so hands i made like $10 there and was pretty happy. and then i just gave away my entire stack to this donk. i am extremely disappointed...

partypoker - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $72.16 (VPIP: 95.45, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (UTG): $33.70
UTG+1: $27.09 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 76)
MP: $22.03 (VPIP: 57.50, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+1: $21.45 (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 11.74, 3Bet Preflop: 4.24, Hands: 1,689)
CO: $16.53 (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BTN: $26.68 (VPIP: 24.26, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 916)
SB: $62.78 (VPIP: 23.47, PFR: 15.31, 3Bet Preflop: 9.33, Hands: 199)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q:spade: K:spade:

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.75, fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.60, 3 players) Q:diamond: J:club: 5:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.60, 3 players) K:club:
BB bets $7.22, Hero raises to $14.44, fold, BB calls $7.22

River: ($36.48, 2 players) T:spade:
BB bets $17.33, Hero calls $16.76 and is all-in

BB shows A:club: K:heart: (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 28%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks Q:spade: K:spade: (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 72%, Turn 84%)
BB wins $0.57
BB wins $67.00

i decided to play KQ seeing that he really didn't have a hand range. look at his VP he was playing and betting almost anything. and then i had a decent flop followed by a decent turn card too. finally at river i was committed to pot and had to call because he could be bluffing as well. i wasn't gonna fold that hand against a guy with such stats.

how to play donks?

 

[rhombus]

I'm not really a fan of this float honestly. A gutshot and some backdoor draws isn't enough for me here without some sort of serious read. If I know the guy is giving up most of the time if his c bet doesn't get through then maybe I'd float. I like 3bet folding the flop if I think the villain is 3betting and cbetting wide otherwise I'd just fold.

was double gutted and 35% equity against Aces. Think he could have had alot worse than that

 

[or3o1990]

I retract my earlier statement rhombus. I didn't realize you had a double gutshot the first time I looked at it.

 

[rhombus]

so i am desperately seeking for some help here with a few things.

and i also need tips.

1. what do i tell myself when i try my best to play poker following good practices only to find myself handing over my entire stack to some donk who hits a boat or something on the river. knowing none of it is my fault and that i played it absolutely right. it's right after these hands that one starts tilting.
honestly even the most experienced players would find it difficult to walk away from trying something stupid after these stupid beats. but i like to think i have the patience needed to not make stupid moves in such scenarios. i am just looking for some guidance and tips to walk away from it.

2. what do i tell myself to fold hands like this(see below) preflop vs an aggressive donk who 3bets with hand ranges like anything at all. i played on that table well without tilting even once and making so many good folds. after 100 or so hands i made like $10 there and was pretty happy. and then i just gave away my entire stack to this donk. i am extremely disappointed...

partypoker - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $72.16 (VPIP: 95.45, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (UTG): $33.70
UTG+1: $27.09 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 76)
MP: $22.03 (VPIP: 57.50, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+1: $21.45 (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 11.74, 3Bet Preflop: 4.24, Hands: 1,689)
CO: $16.53 (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BTN: $26.68 (VPIP: 24.26, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 916)
SB: $62.78 (VPIP: 23.47, PFR: 15.31, 3Bet Preflop: 9.33, Hands: 199)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q♠ K♠

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.75, fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.60, 3 players) Q♦ J♣ 5♦
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.60, 3 players) K♣
BB bets $7.22, Hero raises to $14.44, fold, BB calls $7.22

River: ($36.48, 2 players) T♠
BB bets $17.33, Hero calls $16.76 and is all-in

BB shows A♣ K♥ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 28%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks Q♠ K♠ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 72%, Turn 84%)
BB wins $0.57
BB wins $67.00

i decided to play KQ seeing that he really didn't have a hand range. look at his VP he was playing and betting almost anything. and then i had a decent flop followed by a decent turn card too. finally at river i was committed to pot and had to call because he could be bluffing as well. i wasn't gonna fold that hand against a guy with such stats.

how to play donks?

How to play donks?
Only 2 Steps to it.
Step 1 Value Bet
Step 2 Dont pay them off

Step 1
In the hand you posted when they bet $7 on turn, just shove when you min raised there was no way he was going to fold
Step 2
Dont pay him off I know you have invested alot but maybe you could have folded as alot of aces in his range. Think your Bet sizing on turn messed up the hand for you.

PS I struggle with Step 2 as well

 

[rhombus]

I retract my earlier statement rhombus. I didn't realize you had a double gutshot the first time I looked at it.

no probs I re re reraised a river last night with nut straight as I didnt see the flush lol river was 2BBs ended up 116BBs

1st time I saw it I thought WTF is this guy raising with

 

[rhombus]

eek doesnt seem to get better got stacked 5 times tonight in 1K hands

tonight AK ran into AA
QQ ran into KK
KK raised A2 and flop of 229
55 flop 5QQ get it in against QT and they hit runner AA
Last hand of night I decide to call a 3Bet with Aces flop QT5 get it in on flop and they have QQ

another day another $

 

[or3o1990]

no probs I re re reraised a river last night with nut straight as I didnt see the flush lol river was 2BBs ended up 116BBs

I sometimes fail at reading hand histories.. But I never consider a flopped flush because it happens so rarely it's best to assume they didn't get there imo. Unless they're a nit of course.

I might need to be scolded for this one. But as I rand down the hand I kept asking myself does he do this with just trips and I convinced myself he doesn't. Maybe because I wouldn't play trips like this here or for fear of being owned by the overshove. I promise I'm not a nit!

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 175.55 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 38)
MP+1: 97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 78.6 BB (VPIP: 51.28, PFR: 12.82, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
BTN: 92.1 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 5.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (BB): 94.25 BB
UTG: 147.35 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
UTG+1: 167.8 BB (VPIP: 43.59, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 39)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: J:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) T:club: 9:heart: 9:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, CO calls 4 BB

Turn: (18.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

River: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
Hero bets 14 BB, CO raises to 67.6 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 49.9 BB

 

[John A]

also 2 comparison stats at 10K hands stage between 2nl and 5nl

5nl stats look better than 2nl ignoring amount won as was running alot worse at 2nl
closer VPIPand PFR
3bet still too high
WTSD% is lower , W$SD higher
Agg and agg% higher

Yes, looking much better... especially at 5nl. The aggression is just still super low at 2nl.

 

[John A]

so i am desperately seeking for some help here with a few things.

and i also need tips.

1. what do i tell myself when i try my best to play poker following good practices only to find myself handing over my entire stack to some donk who hits a boat or something on the river. knowing none of it is my fault and that i played it absolutely right. it's right after these hands that one starts tilting.
honestly even the most experienced players would find it difficult to walk away from trying something stupid after these stupid beats. but i like to think i have the patience needed to not make stupid moves in such scenarios. i am just looking for some guidance and tips to walk away from it.

2. what do i tell myself to fold hands like this(see below) preflop vs an aggressive donk who 3bets with hand ranges like anything at all. i played on that table well without tilting even once and making so many good folds. after 100 or so hands i made like $10 there and was pretty happy. and then i just gave away my entire stack to this donk. i am extremely disappointed...

partypoker - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $72.16 (VPIP: 95.45, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (UTG): $33.70
UTG+1: $27.09 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 6.45, Hands: 76)
MP: $22.03 (VPIP: 57.50, PFR: 2.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
MP+1: $21.45 (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 11.74, 3Bet Preflop: 4.24, Hands: 1,689)
CO: $16.53 (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BTN: $26.68 (VPIP: 24.26, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 916)
SB: $62.78 (VPIP: 23.47, PFR: 15.31, 3Bet Preflop: 9.33, Hands: 199)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Q♠ K♠

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.75, fold, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.75, BTN calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.60, 3 players) Q♦ J♣ 5♦
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($7.60, 3 players) K♣
BB bets $7.22, Hero raises to $14.44, fold, BB calls $7.22

River: ($36.48, 2 players) T♠
BB bets $17.33, Hero calls $16.76 and is all-in

BB shows A♣ K♥ (Straight, Ace High)
(Pre 70%, Flop 28%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks Q♠ K♠ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens)
(Pre 30%, Flop 72%, Turn 84%)
BB wins $0.57
BB wins $67.00

i decided to play KQ seeing that he really didn't have a hand range. look at his VP he was playing and betting almost anything. and then i had a decent flop followed by a decent turn card too. finally at river i was committed to pot and had to call because he could be bluffing as well. i wasn't gonna fold that hand against a guy with such stats.

how to play donks?

I can understand it's tempting to play a hand like this against someone who is likely really bad. Still, he's not raising pretty much at all in that small sample and he squeezes an UTG raise. Usually you're crushed w/ KQ in that spot. But considering he may be really really bad, it's not horrible.

Regardless, I'd still just bet the flop. You got the flop you wanted pretty much. Go ahead and bet. Now with stack sizes on the turn, you put yourself in a spot to have to call pretty much anything. But I'd consider folding against someone who is likely very passive and his range is pretty clear. I mean there's really nothing you beat at that point.

So with tilt, it's something you have to find a hard line cut off for yourself to quit. It's going to be constant work, and I'd maybe consider something like tilt breaker as an intern manager until you can develop more discipline.

This is the one are of poker that no one can teach you. It's going to be up to you to find that mental fortitude to understand when be a good quitter. You can't let ego drive you into making bad decisions, because they will just continue to compound long term.

 

[John A]

Could it be?!?

It is! It's the secret map to One Eyed Willie's treasure!!

Nice work John!

That's just naughty..

 

[John A]

Very nice but does it look as good as my butty

True. Not even close.

 

[rhombus]

Yes, looking much better... especially at 5nl. The aggression is just still super low at 2nl.

the 2nl stats at were only at 10K hands by the time I reached 35K they were abit better Agg 2.54 Agg% 39.3

When you talk about the Aggression needs to be higher are you referring to AGG or PF AGG%, what should they ideally be as in leakbuster they have a wide range 2.3 to 3.6 and 31.8 to 41.6

 

[rhombus]

When I opened HEM, there was an update to leakbuster.

Last time I ran said I had about 50 leaks, this time says I have 4 leaks, 1 critical and 3 important but only the critical and 2 of the importants are showing.

 

[or3o1990]

That's just naughty..

Don't tell me you haven't seen the goonies?!

Tips on how to navigate this spot? Overshove the flop or what? When the turn fell I knew I beat nothing but I felt committed by that point.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 116.6 BB
MP+1: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP+2: 30 BB (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 29)
CO: 83.35 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
BTN: 218.64 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
SB: 81.4 BB (VPIP: 7.32, PFR: 2.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
BB: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 229.07 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 41)
UTG+1: 152.75 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ A♥

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 14.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (34 BB, 2 players) K♦ J♠ 9♣
Hero checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero raises to 50 BB, BTN calls 33 BB

Turn: (134 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero raises to 52.1 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 52.1 BB

River: (238.2 BB, 2 players) 9♠

Hero shows A♠ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 64%, Turn 7%)
BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 36%, Turn 93%)
BTN wins 235.2 BB

 

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Don't tell me you haven't seen the goonies?!

Tips on how to navigate this spot? Overshove the flop or what? When the turn fell I knew I beat nothing but I felt committed by that point.

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 116.6 BB
MP+1: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP+2: 30 BB (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 29)
CO: 83.35 BB (VPIP: 19.44, PFR: 13.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
BTN: 218.64 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
SB: 81.4 BB (VPIP: 7.32, PFR: 2.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
BB: 48.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG: 229.07 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 41)
UTG+1: 152.75 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ A♥

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 14.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 5.5 BB

Flop: (34 BB, 2 players) K♦ J♠ 9♣
Hero checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero raises to 50 BB, BTN calls 33 BB

Turn: (134 BB, 2 players) T♥
Hero raises to 52.1 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 52.1 BB

River: (238.2 BB, 2 players) 9♠

Hero shows A♠ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 64%, Turn 7%)
BTN shows K♣ Q♣ (Straight, King High)
(Pre 18%, Flop 36%, Turn 93%)
BTN wins 235.2 BB

always difficult when you have flops like that and you have Aces, only good side there isnt a flush draw. usually best way is try to get to showdown or try for thin value.

If you overshove with no flush draws you probably only get action from AK or a hand that has you crushed unless they are a maniac and looking at his stats you may get called by KJ KQ QJ.

I had similar hand with Aces earlier and wasnt sure what to do, although once the Ten hit turn I hoped he had King and maybe King Jack although once he min raised the turn that was probably my opportunity to get out or would that be too weak ???????? or maybe I could have checked back the turn for a cheaper showdown

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.15 (143 bb)
UTG: $5.11 (102.2 bb)
MP: $6.57 (131.4 bb)
CO: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
BTN: $2.77 (55.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

A

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.50, BTN folds, SB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.10) T

J

K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.63, SB calls $0.63

Turn: ($2.36) T

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB raises to $2.60, Hero calls $1.30

River: ($7.56) K

(2 players)
SB bets $1.36 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.36

Results: $10.28 pot ($0.43 rake)
Final Board: T

J

K

T

K

SB showed T

A

and won $9.85 ($4.76 net)
Hero showed A

A

and lost (-$5.09 net)