Live Grind: How to Fall Asleep at the Table (Without Getting Caught)

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glad to hear it, free for Skype reviews for a week or so, and i have posted 13 hands for you to look at lol
 
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Hand 5. Still don't really know what to make of this one. Feels weird just flatting flop, but it kind of felt like complete air or a weak TP weird "value min-raise/see where I'm at" kind of raise. Turn should probably be a bet just cause of all the bad river cards, but dunno.

BTN: 101 BB (VPIP: 54.29, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 70)
SB: 131 BB (VPIP: 54.04, PFR: 20.25, 3Bet Preflop: 9.98, Hands: 888)
BB: 192.5 BB (VPIP: 41.96, PFR: 25.24, 3Bet Preflop: 8.94, Hands: 318)
UTG: 313.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 70)
Hero (MP): 133.5 BB
CO: 137.5 BB (VPIP: 35.12, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 10,576)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold

Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) T:diamond: 6:heart: 6:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, SB raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (37 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:
SB bets 17.5 BB, Hero calls 17.5 BB

SB shows 8:club: 9:heart: (Straight, Ten High) (Pre 19%, Flop 17%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks A:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Sixes) (Pre 81%, Flop 83%, Turn 82%)
SB wins 69 BB
 
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glad to hear it, free for Skype reviews for a week or so, and i have posted 13 hands for you to look at lol

yeah I saw the 13 hands and ran for the door lol... jk, I'll be taking a look, just been pretty hectic days with apartment showings and stuff. should be able to look at most of the hands after dinner tho.
 
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hand 5, im betting turn for sure,
but I'm really 3betting flop and gii
 
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Hand 6. River felt like spew, but what do we want to do on flop/turn?

UTG: 98 BB (VPIP: 53.42, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 73)
MP: 171 BB (VPIP: 54.08, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 9.93, Hands: 891)
CO: 164 BB (VPIP: 42.19, PFR: 25.31, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 321)
BTN: 312 BB (VPIP: 27.40, PFR: 10.96, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 73)
Hero (SB): 97 BB
BB: 161 BB (VPIP: 35.12, PFR: 19.06, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 10,579)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: Q:diamond:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB calls 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) 4:club: 2:club: 8:diamond:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks

Turn: (12 BB, 3 players) J:heart:
Hero bets 7.5 BB, BB calls 7.5 BB, fold

River: (27 BB, 2 players) K:club:
Hero bets 16 BB, BB calls 16 BB

Hero shows A:club: Q:diamond: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 74%, Flop 86%, Turn 7%)
BB shows J:club: A:diamond: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 26%, Flop 14%, Turn 93%)
BB wins 56.5 BB
 
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checking turn, connects with them too much, would consider betting flop but don't mind checking tho
 
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Def not betting turn without betting the flop. As duggs said, it hits their ranges and they're never folding Jx.
 
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1. At the time I felt like he was only repping relative monsters and like, MAYBE AK.

UTG: 209 BB (VPIP: 30.90, PFR: 17.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.72, Hands: 4,251)
MP: 94 BB (VPIP: 37.92, PFR: 21.56, 3Bet Preflop: 4.08, Hands: 398)
CO: 151.5 BB (VPIP: 59.28, PFR: 22.48, 3Bet Preflop: 6.29, Hands: 312)
Hero (BTN): 103 BB
SB: 185 BB (VPIP: 29.42, PFR: 10.45, 3Bet Preflop: 4.98, Hands: 546)
BB: 107 BB (VPIP: 27.09, PFR: 13.30, 3Bet Preflop: 5.81, Hands: 203)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:spade: T:spade:

fold, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 8:club: 4:heart: 7:spade:
MP bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
MP bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

River: (45.5 BB, 2 players) K:spade:
MP bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB

MP shows A:heart: T:diamond: (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 67%, Flop 56%, Turn 75%)
Hero mucks 9:spade: T:spade: (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 33%, Flop 44%, Turn 25%)
MP wins 102.5 BB



Hand 2. Lol my life.

UTG: 208 BB (VPIP: 30.92, PFR: 17.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.76, Hands: 4,261)
MP: 140 BB (VPIP: 37.85, PFR: 21.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.03, Hands: 404)
CO: 160.5 BB (VPIP: 59.29, PFR: 22.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 318)
Hero (BTN): 98.5 BB
SB: 189 BB (VPIP: 29.28, PFR: 10.52, 3Bet Preflop: 4.95, Hands: 552)
BB: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 13.40, 3Bet Preflop: 5.62, Hands: 209)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 2:heart: 2:diamond:

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) K:diamond: J:diamond: J:spade:
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 6 BB, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) K:club:
CO checks, Hero bets 13 BB, CO calls 13 BB

River: (47.5 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
CO bets 22.5 BB, fold

CO shows K:heart: K:spade: (Four of a Kind, Kings)
CO wins 45.5 BB


Hand 3. Calling the 2x 3bet might be optimistic, but I figured I had a pretty decent amount of implied odds, and was already getting 3.9:1. That being said, he only has like 50bb behind after his raise so I think it's prob pretty bad.

SB: 69 BB (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 4.84, Hands: 354)
Hero (BB): 140.5 BB
UTG: 213.5 BB (VPIP: 29.34, PFR: 10.44, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 527)
CO: 67 BB (VPIP: 48.21, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 57)
BTN: 71.5 BB (VPIP: 27.04, PFR: 12.58, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 159)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: T:club:

fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) Q:club: 6:heart: J:club:
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN raises to 20 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (46 BB, 2 players) 2:heart:
Hero checks, BTN bets 23 BB, fold

BTN wins 44 BB


Hand 4. River is just terribad.

UTG: 73 BB (VPIP: 38.86, PFR: 22.57, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 362)
CO: 121.5 BB (VPIP: 59.56, PFR: 24.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.56, Hands: 276)
Hero (BTN): 163 BB
SB: 189.5 BB (VPIP: 29.47, PFR: 10.48, 3Bet Preflop: 5.08, Hands: 535)
BB: 142.5 BB (VPIP: 28.14, PFR: 13.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 167)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:heart: 9:heart:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club: A:spade: 9:diamond:
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 7:club:
BB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

BB shows A:club: 2:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Twos) (Pre 51%, Flop 82%, Turn 95%)
Hero mucks 8:heart: 9:heart: (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 49%, Flop 18%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 31 BB


Hand 5. One of the few hands that's gone right this week.

UTG: 106 BB (VPIP: 54.20, PFR: 10.69, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 134)
MP: 86.5 BB (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 25)
CO: 220.5 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 20)
BTN: 210.5 BB (VPIP: 28.71, PFR: 15.81, 3Bet Preflop: 6.35, Hands: 310)
SB: 109.5 BB (VPIP: 44.06, PFR: 11.25, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 326)
Hero (BB): 102.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15 BB, fold, MP raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 102.5 BB and is all-in, MP calls 46.5 BB and is all-in

Flop: (174.5 BB, 2 players) 4:spade: 2:club: 2:spade:

Turn: (174.5 BB, 2 players) K:club:

River: (174.5 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:

Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
MP shows J:heart: J:club: (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 166.5 BB



Hand 6. How do we want to size river?

CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 57.50, PFR: 11.67, 3Bet Preflop: 1.59, Hands: 122)
BTN: 212 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 249.5 BB (VPIP: 28.52, PFR: 15.44, 3Bet Preflop: 6.50, Hands: 298)
BB: 68 BB (VPIP: 42.53, PFR: 10.39, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 314)
Hero (UTG): 81 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:heart: K:club:

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) A:spade: 3:diamond: 4:heart:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 5.5 BB, SB calls 5.5 BB, fold

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) K:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (20 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Hero shows J:heart: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks) (Pre 42%, Flop 4%, Turn 11%)
SB mucks 8:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 58%, Flop 96%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 42 BB



Hand 7. Is this always AJ or better? Can I just fold flop? Feels so ****ing gross. The only reason I called was cause it was two suited board and he tanked OTT. Felt like a crying call though.

BTN: 114 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 236.5 BB (VPIP: 28.67, PFR: 15.70, 3Bet Preflop: 6.56, Hands: 293)
BB: 84 BB (VPIP: 42.57, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 1.50, Hands: 309)
Hero (CO): 107 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:club: K:heart:

Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, fold

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 2:diamond: 2:spade: J:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BTN raises to 30.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 23.5 BB

Turn: (71 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets 80.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 73.5 BB and is all-in

River: (218 BB, 2 players) 5:spade:

Hero shows J:club: K:heart: (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (Pre 28%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
BTN shows Q:club: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 72%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
BTN wins 208 BB



Hand 8. I wanted to bet turn but something didn't feel right.

SB: 156.5 BB (VPIP: 47.51, PFR: 9.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.39, Hands: 226)
BB: 109.5 BB (VPIP: 43.84, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)
UTG: 237 BB (VPIP: 34.91, PFR: 6.60, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 106)
UTG+1: 131.5 BB (VPIP: 27.07, PFR: 12.66, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 229)
MP: 362 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 17.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 402)
MP+1: 75 BB (VPIP: 30.74, PFR: 17.61, 3Bet Preflop: 6.79, Hands: 4,429)
MP+2: 88 BB (VPIP: 41.95, PFR: 13.41, 3Bet Preflop: 3.93, Hands: 417)
Hero (CO): 125.5 BB
BTN: 74 BB (VPIP: 56.35, PFR: 19.04, 3Bet Preflop: 5.24, Hands: 400)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: J:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, BB calls 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (16 BB, 4 players) Q:spade: 2:spade: T:club:
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 15.5 BB, Hero calls 15.5 BB, SB calls 15.5 BB, fold

Turn: (62.5 BB, 3 players) T:spade:
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (62.5 BB, 3 players) 6:heart:
SB bets 14.5 BB, UTG raises to 41 BB, fold, SB calls 26.5 BB

UTG shows T:diamond: Q:heart: (Full House, Tens full of Queens) (Pre 63%, Flop 70%, Turn 100%)
SB mucks 3:spade: 7:spade: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 37%, Flop 30%, Turn 0%)
UTG wins 138 BB
 
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1// looks good, valid assumption with no prior info, just note and move on.

2/// pretty meh on betting flop, hate turn barrel.

3/// yea i mean i think we can consider floating more just because stacks are shallower, as played fold flop.

4//// triple!!!! as played raise river

5//// nh

6/// i make it 14 on river but looks good.

7//// hard to tell based on the flop being 3way, but HU pot I'm never ever ever folding. dunno how much 3rd player on flop changes things or how your games run.

8/// haha sick brags, i want to fold flop tho. don't think its close
 
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Thanks for input. On like a 8ish BI cash downswing atm with like no volume, so I'm going a little crazy. Plus expenses for trips and stuff so my BR is relatively decimated.

2. Yeh I realized in retrospect he can play Kx like that. At the time I was putting him on mostly QQ/TT-.

4. Why triple? Not even sure we get him to fold weaker Ax 100%. And why are we raising river? Blocking 99 is good I guess, but otherwise I don't get it. We prob have to size pretty massive to get him to fold anything too, since we checked back the turn.

7. I mean, people definitely have air but this guy was unknown to me, which ****ing sucked tbh. Like within 3 more orbits I would have known that flop was a snap-fold ainec. But at the time it felt close. Turn is still a fold vs. an unknown though I think.

8. Agreed on fold flop to that sizing, just figured I had implied odds to his stack most of the time.


Going to play live tonight for the first time here, so hopefully that doesn't go too shitty. Will undoubtedly have some butchered hands to post :)
 
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4// misread hand as 99, ignore comments, fold river imo.

7/// yea but people spazz on paired boards, Jx/flush draws a bunch from a random at my stakes. never folding turn tbh
 
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Fair enough lol. Thanks again for inputs. Btw, I was on skype today and you were nowhere to be found. :p
 
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literally first time i haven't been on at that time in a ****ing week, got on like an hour after you were off. dm me on twitter if you are logging on in future imo.
 
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Lol so much fail. I should be on a while today, but might go shoe shopping too so no promises.
 
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I found you I found you!!!
 
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You go girl

JB, always dropping in for the important stuff.

Tbf, my sneakers are like 3 years old and have holes on the bottom. Walking through puddles is a no no, so I'm long overdue :) Didn't go tho :(
 
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Welp, I'm in Vegas. Haven't played any poker yet, AND I'm about to go to sleep, but tomorrow I grind the Little Drop. Noon start (local time), and I'm going to try to keep the updates coming at a decent rate on Twitter (@MeVPoker). Some of those will get reposted to the CC rail thread though, which you can find here: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/team-cardschat-little-one-one-drop-247310/ all thanks to juiceeQ.

Anyway, I'll be back ITT soon with a better update soon hopefully. I still haven't described my first live cash session in Wisconsin, and I've been meaning to do that. Cheers til then, hopefully you'll see me again in a few days on the other side with a bracelet!
 
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Out. Lasted about 7 hours, the last 3 of which I basically did nothing but fold, so I can't be too mad. Thought my bustout hand might have been a mistake, 3rd to act opens (I know he's folding a lot to 3bets), and I jam AJo with 22ish bb (there are antes) with 4 or 5 to act behind me. I get snap-rejammed by BB and opener folds. I turn my hand over, BB squints to see then turns over KK lol.
 
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Not sure if I like the jam with AJo, are you EVER getting called by anything you are ahead of? Its basically a bluff jam because you were hoping for folds. I would prefer to see a flop there with 22bbs and AJo but thats just me.
 
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Jam is probably fine, I mean I personally have a 3b range there aswell, but they can do much about us jjamming AJ+ and 77-TT
 
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Not sure if I like the jam with AJo, are you EVER getting called by anything you are ahead of? Its basically a bluff jam because you were hoping for folds. I would prefer to see a flop there with 22bbs and AJo but thats just me.

Jam is probably fine, I mean I personally have a 3b range there aswell, but they can do much about us jjamming AJ+ and 77-TT

Yeah the possibility of flatting was mentioned, but with 4ish to act I almost felt like jamming > flatting. But tbf on this table that probably wasn't true, because a lot of pots were multiway with overcalls, and no excessive 3betting.

But tbf, @IPlay, the idea isn't to "get called by worse." The idea is to increase my stack by ~20%, or get into a spot where I don't have totally dominated equity. Against a reasonable calling range of 99+/AQ+ I have 30% equity. And a lot of the time I figured I take down the pot. Whereas if I see a flop 3 or 4 ways, I likely have to hit it pretty hard. Second pair minimum, probably top pair+ required.
 
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Well, I hate to be a downer, but I couldn't really have imagined this trip going any worse. I frankly wonder whether it even COULD have gone worse.

I'll try to do a more in-depth trip report later on with a few pictures and some hands, but right now I'm pretty depressed with the whole thing, so that may not be for at least a few days. For now, here's the devastatingly disappointing numbers and minor thoughts.

Tournament
Profit: -$1,111 (+$222 from CC promo, for BR purposes)
Time: 7 hours
Review: Played very solid for the most part. Ran into a few spots I was unsure about, mostly wrt stack size and tourney standards. Ran very very card dead for too many hours in a row, then jammed a marginal spot and ran into a monster.

Cash Games
2/5, 1 session
Profit: -$675
Time: 3 hours

1/3, 3 sessions (1 win worth $30, 2 losses)
Total profit: -$402
Time: 15 hours

Cash Totals:
Profit: -$1,077
Time: 18 hours
Hourly rate: -$58.64/hr

The thing that makes this all so much worse is that it just continues my downswing. I'm now in a > 2k downswing in cash games, > 3k downswing in tourneys (11 straight no-cashes), and I'm out about 1.5k in Vegas and Foxwoods expenses.

I also recently made the decision to take 2k out of my BR to pay for the security deposit and first month's rent on my new apartment along with other RL expenses. That plus downswing takes my BR down to a pretty ****ing pathetic 3k. It's definitely possible I'd also use more for RL expenses this month (before my first paycheck) too. I've got about $700 on my card at the casino in Madison, so I may just "withdraw" the rest of my roll aside from that and see if I can turn that into anything while playing 1/2.

I'm not quitting poker, but I'm tired, frustrated, and so far from recent goals and expectations that I'm not even sure how to react. I know I'm running bad, in cards, situations, etc. But this game is too brutal for it to not feel disgusting even with the knowledge that variance is shitting on me a little.

Such is poker, such is life I guess.

Hopefully will have a trip report up next weekend at the latest if I haven't totally lost my mind and decided poker can go **** itself.

Oh, and for shits and giggles, here's my poker giraffe.
 

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Wow, so I guess I can' t cry about my $4 "downswing"...I saw you were playing online again, so maybe thats the way: take a break from live games and play online limits that you can easily crush with a "just for fun" attitude. Or take a break at all... Either way I wish you all the best and a quick recovery from that ugly downswing you have now. Oh and you know what they say: "Tough times dont last; tough people do" :)
 
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