OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
I think you're massively overestimating the number of people willing to protest over this issue... in my country, yours, or any other.
I think you're massively overestimating the number of people willing to protest over this issue... in my country, yours, or any other.
quick
Legend
Silver Level
I agree, sadly not many people share the love of poker as you'd think. Or even understand it.
US player checking in, I agree and feel bad for them too. Meanwhile here in the US dare I say we're seeing a slow return to glory days of online poker maybe?
Pharaoh39
Visionary
Silver Level
The U.S. has a LONG way to go before it gets back to the glory days. And even then, how long will it take before the states can play with other people outside of the U.S.?
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Not really - at least, not on any site that cares about enforcing the law. Stars already doesn't allow you to play using a VPN and they've got detection measures in place for it. Plus you'd have to prove that you'd relocated to another country to have your account reactivated in the first place.
Our politicians DGAF about whether it's a skill game or not - I don't think that's ever come up as a factor in the debate. And poker in general, let alone online poker, is a tiny market here.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
Why do you think I left to live in Brazil? Just kidding, I left for my wife, but it was right around the same time they shut it down in USA. I just remember that I had won my way into a big tourney and being told it was canceled and all my tickets just disappeared, play money wasn't going to cut it.
Truth be told though, I understand why they have this problem, it is very hard to regulate and there is a greater risk of corruption internationally. So, what does this do to all the Aussie members here?:girlshit::vollkomme
I still have all of the approximately 30 tickets I had when the ban took place.
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He overstated everything and his opinions were stated as facts when he was a member here.
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No, against the TOS at most sites.
Oz explained the other important thing, Account verification, where are they going to send any money that you may want to withdraw, new documents will have to be submitted, then when they find out that you are still in Australia they will confiscate all of your funds for breaking the TOS.
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
LOL believe me, I noticed
FWIW I'm just now getting around to cashing out my Stars balance. Converting all my FPPs to money was super-easy, now I'm just having to deal with neteller... and the experience hasn't been pleasant so far. At the moment my money is stuck in limbo with them.
I always used straight bank transfer in the past, but Stars got rid of all the withdrawl options other than Neteller or skrill, which sucks.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
I haven't looked into Stars yet, I converted all my points when they were getting rid of them for the new system and I converted most to $11 tickets that expire sometime in the late 30's.
I am having a little trouble with Party, they made me open a skrill account a while back when I wanted to withdraw so I had to deposit with skrill to use it to withdraw funds,I haven't needed to deposit since and now that I want to take my money off I'm in a catch 22 situation, since it has been over a certain amount of time since my last withdrawal and I haven't used skrill since then, I now can't withdraw until I deposit with skrill again and now that we are banned Party will not accept a deposit from me.
I will eventually put a bit of effort in and get what they owe me.
Poli was my main way of depositing or straight with my visa debit card when poli was down.
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I am having a little trouble with Party, they made me open a skrill account a while back when I wanted to withdraw so I had to deposit with skrill to use it to withdraw funds,I haven't needed to deposit since and now that I want to take my money off I'm in a catch 22 situation, since it has been over a certain amount of time since my last withdrawal and I haven't used skrill since then, I now can't withdraw until I deposit with skrill again and now that we are banned Party will not accept a deposit from me.
I will eventually put a bit of effort in and get what they owe me.
Poli was my main way of depositing or straight with my visa debit card when poli was down.
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Yeah I always did POLi in (LOL "always" - only ever deposited the once) and direct bank transfer out. No idea why they ditched that as an option...
I hadn't ever used Neteller before so had to open a new account... which they want you to verify, which is all well and good, except they want you to do it using a webcam instead of just uploading scans/images like a normal human being. Then their site doesn't recognise the (perfectly functional, I checked with other programs) webcam on my computer. tells me if you don't have a working webcam you have to use the mobile App. So I download the mobile app... but by this time my withdrawl from Stars has arrived, and the account gets frozen for having too much money in an unverified account. The mobile app won't work with a frozen account, it directs you back to the website to verify the account before you can continue, the website still won't recognise a working webcam and I'm just about on bajungi tilt.
Fortunately found a link to the page with their contact phone numbers (which they make impossible to find, don't think you can actually navigate to it on the site, had to get a direct link from the comments section of someone complaining about them on Facebook - I'm starting to get very nervous by this stage), called them up (Australian support line is staffed 24/7 at least!) and they gave me the details to submit the verification documents manually so I've done that, hopefully they'll get around to approving it soon. Though I'm not holding my breath.
Cliff notes: Neteller can SMB.
I hadn't ever used Neteller before so had to open a new account... which they want you to verify, which is all well and good, except they want you to do it using a webcam instead of just uploading scans/images like a normal human being. Then their site doesn't recognise the (perfectly functional, I checked with other programs) webcam on my computer. tells me if you don't have a working webcam you have to use the mobile App. So I download the mobile app... but by this time my withdrawl from Stars has arrived, and the account gets frozen for having too much money in an unverified account. The mobile app won't work with a frozen account, it directs you back to the website to verify the account before you can continue, the website still won't recognise a working webcam and I'm just about on bajungi tilt.
Fortunately found a link to the page with their contact phone numbers (which they make impossible to find, don't think you can actually navigate to it on the site, had to get a direct link from the comments section of someone complaining about them on Facebook - I'm starting to get very nervous by this stage), called them up (Australian support line is staffed 24/7 at least!) and they gave me the details to submit the verification documents manually so I've done that, hopefully they'll get around to approving it soon. Though I'm not holding my breath.
Cliff notes: Neteller can SMB.
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Pharaoh39
Visionary
Silver Level
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the only way U.S. players can play on pokerstars is to visit another country. (A vacation) Then you can play for money.
darthdimsky
Legend
Silver Level
Doubt this is the case. You may have noticed that your country of residence cannot be changed, after account creation, until you submit documentation outlining your new country of residence. Only once this is changed to a legal country, per stars, are you allowed to play real money.
For e.g. I was a resident of the UAE and was able to play till SEP 2014. When I moved down to Sri Lanka I couldn't play until I had provided docs and updated my residence.
Basically, as long as your account reads US as residence, you can't play real money even when you visit the UK (for e.g.)
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Tim Hatfield
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I'm in Australia; have started playing on ignition. I sometimes wonder if many Aussies are doing the same; ignition doesn't have player info so can't tell where it's players are from. I also ask myself is ignition a reputable site with acceptable regulatory control? Also, is Cards Chat affiliated with particular sites such as PS and other sites it has freerolls on?
OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
That's not actually the case though - here, or anywhere else in the world when you think about it.
If the government were only concerned about the tax revenue they'd legalise the game, license it locally and make sure they get their cut of the tax revenue. Most sites would gladly hand it over because they're being handed a license to print money, so why not.
In the vast majority of cases, I think you'll find governments ban online poker on the basis of a broader moral stance against gambling, or under pressure from competing business interests (brick and mortar casinos, for example). In the USA it's definitely a combination of those two factors, nothing to do with tax revenue.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
What are you looking for in online poker, are you looking for freerolls or are you a grinder.
If you are a freeroll player then use the links here at CardsChat for ACR, BCP, BOL, SB, and intertops, they all have regular freerolls and when you become a member of the freeroll club you can play with the rest of us here in a good quality game that will help you to get better at poker and pays out real money.
You don't need to use a site that doesn't hide your location, these site don't give a rats if you are an Aussie, just like I don't give a rats about the dickheads in Canberra.
There are some requirements to join the Freeroll Club but it is not hard to do and you can learn some things about poker while you are progressing to the point that you can gain access to the freeroll club, there are a lot of members here that are willig to help you to improve your poker game, also CardsChat has regular special events often that are played at poker stars in the Home Games section that are play money games so anyone can play them and the prizes are paid out by CardsChat in Cash and some are in CardsChat merchandise, like the elusive CardsChat Hoodie.
Cardschat Freeroll Club Requirements
Download links to the sites.
Americas Cardroom
Black Chip Poker
BetOnline
SportsBetting Poker
Intertops
You can also grind the tables at these sites.
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Tim Hatfield
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Thanks zorba for the tips and links. When PS stopped accepting Aussies i was of the opinion that hardly any site accepted Aussies because of the new law, that's why i joined ignition. So the sites you gave links to all accept Aussie players?
I'm not particularly looking for freerolls; quite often i find they're not at a suitable time here in Australia. I want to become a grinder; at the moment I'm breaking even in ignition sng $3 triple ups. Learning in every game and adapting strategy for each game.
I'm not particularly looking for freerolls; quite often i find they're not at a suitable time here in Australia. I want to become a grinder; at the moment I'm breaking even in ignition sng $3 triple ups. Learning in every game and adapting strategy for each game.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
In case you missed it in the thread, we can still play online just not all sites, the big 3 pulled out (PS, 888 and Party) but we still can play on other sites.
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OzExorcist
Broomcorn's uncle
Bronze Level
Plus we're still pretty effing lucky to live in Australia, internet poker restrictions or no
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