Do you trust online poker?

[Smokewood]

I trust the software, i do not trust the people.
What keeps me and 4 of my friends from getting on the same table and telling each other our cards?

I only play live poker now.

Since posting this I went back and played a tournament and a few hours of cash games on-line.

I still do not really trust the people involved because it is unregulated in my state.

I'm just happy that WinStar is only a 50 minute drive from home.

 

[SuperPwn]

It does seem rigged at times, but realistically it doesn't make sense for a site to rig the runouts or cooler particular people because of all the negative press that would come out if they get exposed doing it.

 

[BigGrayWolf]

Absolutely do not have to believe in this shit, this is primarily a business for the owners and not for what would be what some fish from Kansas could earn money on it.

 

[MrGrace]

I don't trust online poker i want to believe its all honest and fair but it seems to be against people i know at times. But then again who knows maybe it is i can't prove anything just wish i knew it was regulated 100%.

 

[vitalii029]

I do not trust online poker in any way I online poker only hope for luck almost always

 

[Nano5722]

Well, anyway, you need to trust it, because not all the people can play live poker.
For sure, if you will play poker live - this will be just 2 different games.
But if you play online poker it means, that you trust it.

 

[Ranish625]

There is absolutely no trust, but nothing can be done, you have to play at least this, because there is no other alternative

 

[JTerrence]

I guess you just have to treat it with the same level of trust you'd give any kind of gambling scenario. It really depends on your reason for playing.

 

[SageSight]

The algorithms many poker sites seem to use are not completely random. There are some times I fold to a player becuase I think the sites algorithm is favoring them at that time (even when I have a decent hand). This is just speculation so I give this little overall weight in calculating my decisions, but I still give this some consideration when making a decision to fold, bet, etc -- if I see a player defy odds time and time again against other players then there appears to be some basis to suggest they will defy the odds against me as well.

 

[L3vin3Th3Dr3am77]

Yeah sometimes things like that happen... But also happens in live poker as well

I've been playing online a long time though and I still enjoy it.

 

[L3vin3Th3Dr3am77]

I do love playing live poker games/tournaments as well, but other than going to A.C. or Las Vegas, find a game in NYC is a feeble task

 

[martina pinto]

I do not know what to think I have many hands in bat beat and the truth is already making me doubt there are times I play my hands in different ways and I always end up losing not if it is plot lol or that .. I have also lived in live hands that you only see online .. and there is a decision .. here also these things happen .. but as a scant game live .. poker online for me is getting harder and harder as I see players playing the same hands as me they touch in the same way and to them the result favors them.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I honestly believe that if you allow an online site to not only take your rake, but give your money to other players, they will do it. Think about it. If you own a poker site, you want as much money floating around as possible with the largest amount of players. That's how you make money. So it would make since to allow the good players along with the new depositors to win more. While causing the bad players, and addicts that will continue to deposit money to lose....

With that said, is the game random. Yea for the most part I believe it is, on the other hand. I do believe coin flip situations go more often to the good players that will stop playing when they are down. Along with giving the long shot wins to the bad players, and new depositors cause they want to give them a false scene of security. So when they run into a good player, and lose they will tilt, then redeposit. You cant tilt a good player very often, so why would you want them to lose to long shots, and lose their business? Knowing that if they are losing/not playing, you are losing rake. Then if they lose too much you lose, their entire bankroll.

something to think about.

So what happens when a site is busted for doing what you suggested, that selected players are winning. How much money do they make once exposed?

This ^


And.. who gets 'chosen'? Who does the classifying? (I'd like to be the 'chosen one' if you could pass that along please... but I suppose I could get pushed into another group once I'm content with the money I've been making where I wouldn't mind donating it back to the new depositor group).

 

[mange1234]

No

No. Definitely not.

mange1234

 

[SaintNick1968]

Yes I trust online poker. All the large non US sites are certified as random. They are not rigged, and people who think they lose because they run bad are most likely just awful players who don't understand that bad luck is a natural occurrence in any game which involves chance.


I really wish this debate would stop.

 

[Dani_California]

To be honest i don't trust online poker for shit. It's not regulated. I would recommend watching this video of a guy called Magic612 he has hes own channel where he has a ton of videos where the most unlikely things happens. i watch them just because he rages a shit ton The Best of Magic612 Bad Beat Video - YouTube

So are you saying that this can't happen anywhere else but online? I just played live poker last weekend and lost first with pocket Kings and then with pocket Aces because my opponent flopped a better hand. Later in that same session I lost with a nut flush against someone who had flopped a full house with a hand so bad he shouldn't have even played in the first place. So this definitely happens live as well.

The dude in that video plays some of his hands very poorly and doesn't even think that his opponent might have something better. Like in some of his videos he has Kings and the flop comes 9-J-9. He raises, opponent flat calls. On turn he still decides to go all-in and of course his opponent calls with 9. It's only his own fault that he lost. Why go all-in in that situation if it's quite clear that your hand is beat? His opponent could easily be holding pocket Jacks for example. This time it happened to be 9 but it's not his opponent's fault that he flopped something better.

Plus, we don't even see what kind of plays happen outside those bad beats. Maybe this dude is some seriously aggressive player and his opponents keep calling because they know how loose he plays. Then he only posts these bad beats. I don't know. However, if he keeps getting these bad beats so often that he can't win in that poker room - why does he keep playing in there then? That is something I can't understand. pokerstars isn't the only poker room but he still keeps playing in there even when he gives us an impression that bad beats are the only thing that happens to him in there. So there's something to think about.

PokerStars is the most popular poker room and it is filled with players, good and most definitely bad. Of course you want to play against bad players but when table is filled with them, the game changes. They call you down with anything and get lucky along the way. That's why it may seem like bad beats happen too often when you get called by worse hands too much.

 

[renandm14]

I almost lost with AA. Its a half time

 

[nitulbhatia]

To be honest i don't trust online poker for shit. It's not regulated. I would recommend watching this video of a guy called Magic612 he has hes own channel where he has a ton of videos where the most unlikely things happens. i watch them just because he rages a shit ton The Best of Magic612 Bad Beat Video - YouTube

This video has a lot of evidence of somebody who criticises poker stars consistently running bad. Watch the video.

 

[BobbyMorton]

If I did not trust online poker I would not play on it.

 

[cessam]

No i don't trust poker online because it's not as real poker.
I think that some people are luckiest than other.

 

[vadave311]

Either I trust online poker or I'm a huge sucker and need help.

 

[509fio]

Sure do....as do most people on this site. It's so easy to create fantasies with our mental gymnastics when things don't go our way. Human nature to protect our egos/pride.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I love reading these conspiracy threads. Yep, the poker sites are out to get YOU and only YOU. All the other players at your table are being given great suck-outs on the river. You will lose because the sites want your money, not the money from the other players.


Here is what happens when PokerStars shuffles the cards. You will notice that this explanation focuses on setting up the cards to beat your pocket rockets, big pocket pair, or great flops. That donk who plays 3, 2 offsuit is selected to suck out his trips, set, or even his awesome boat. Here comes the Flop - K, 7, 3. And the Turn is - 2. Wow, your pocket rockets are looking good.But wait, the poker site wants you to buy-in again, so it decides YOU must lose on the River, and voila - here comes another deuce.
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Imagine that - the RNG at PokerStars uses quantum theory to beat your pocket rockets. And then Gaming Labs International certifies that their RNG is all set up to fire those protons just so you will lose.
And that in a nutshell is why YOU lose, but nobody else suffers the same fate.
Best of luck on the felt. Here's hoping I am the other player at your table who is being favoured by the RNG. I always win with my 3-2 offsuit cards!

Excellent post! ... will they read it? Surely they won't want to believe it. I mean they're good players... right? (they couldn't be losing because they suck at the game... could they?).

If it were up to me.... if I were the admin. on this site I'd be giving you some CC swag (a t-shirt at the very least).

 

[invisible10]

those beats happen anywhere online and live , the thing is online you play more hands so when you catch a bad run of cards can be brutal , my only concern with online is the people who cheat using bots :driver:

 

[Shrops]

Yes

I trust online poker. I don't play big just in case I am wrong.