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We should lead cuz villains floating with broadways with heart...Ax and medium pp will call chasing for flush or think they are still good being 3bet pot.



and lets say heart comes on the river u just gave ur opponent the hand for free...
 
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i think in the 88 hand you played it fine. Although it is very likely that its a set versus set situation since he limps pre. I like your line cause if it's set versus set, the money is going to get in anyways on turn or river. But It's the turn card that killed the action.

What are the chances of him calling a jam on the flop if you reraise again with his holdings?
 
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Felt like I deffo lost some value here, what is the best way to play this top set oop?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

SB: $55.49 (111 bb)
BB: $38.33 (76.7 bb)
UTG+1: $8.91 (17.8 bb)
UTG+2: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP1): $50 (100 bb)
MP2: $194.44 (388.9 bb) VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 94
MP3: $52.89 (105.8 bb)
CO: $137.43 (274.9 bb)
BTN: $48.97 (97.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8 8
UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP2 calls $2, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.75) 6 8 2 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.37, MP2 raises to $6.74, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $3.37
I was tempted to reraise here but it would have looked very strong. His bet felt like a feeler with 99,TT, JJ and he wants to see where he's at.

Turn: ($20.23) 4 (2 players)
Obviously not happy to see the heart, do we still lead here?
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($20.23) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $10.11, MP2 calls $10.11

Results:
$40.45 pot ($2.02 rake)
Final Board: 6 8 2 4 9
Hero showed 8 8 and won $38.43 ($19.58 net)
MP2 showed Q Q and lost (-$18.85 net)

Yeah, but remember, a larger part of his range is draws, and you're not going to max out your value vs the weaker part of his range any ways. So you need to focus on the range that you will stack him with which is lower sets / straight and flush draws and 2 pair. I'd almost always 3-bet this flop small. Give him a chance to shove his draws and get it in w/ lower sets 2 pair.

As played, I'd probably check the turn, but after he checks, you need to bet the river larger. You could have hit his 9, or he has TT/JJ type hand. But at least 12.50-13 on the river.
 
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are we just checking turn because our hand is weaker now?
 
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I'll be on tomorrow for group sweat. So anyone who can make it let me know. Hopefully we can go over some strategy and maybe even database stuff.

was the strategy and database stuff just for the sweat
 
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are we just checking turn because our hand is weaker now?

Mostly because hero was CR, opponent is passive, and there's no amount we can really bet/fold. Looking at the CR sizing again though, it's probably much better to just bet/call. That sizing likely isn't a draw. We shouldn't be in this spot to begin with though. I've had preferred a flop 3-bet specially for this reason. We want to get it in now. The turn isn't going to change too much for us.
 
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Hi John - I'm wondering if I can join your study group at this late date? I've started reading Polished Poker (Vol 1, Rev 2), and have read a number of the posts in this thread (but definitely not all). If it's OK to join in, is there anything else that I need to do to prepare other than continuing to read the book and following this thread? Thanks in advance.
 
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Hand of the day, AK.


I didn't really think this one through..


iPoker - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 134.75 BB (VPIP: 68.75, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, hands: 16)
MP+1: 109.06 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
CO: 128.25 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 66)
Hero (BTN): 144.24 BB
SB: 158.26 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 125.01 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 40)
UTG: 21.92 BB (VPIP: 76.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 25)
UTG+1: 138.75 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 39)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.14 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 3.14 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13.28 BB, SB calls 12.78 BB, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 23.42 BB, Hero raises to 144.24 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 76.58 BB

Flop: (217.42 BB, 2 players) T 2 Q

Turn: (217.42 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (217.42 BB, 2 players) 3

MP+2 shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 93%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 7%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
MP+2 wins 214.42 BB
Hero wins 44.24 BB


Here I was thinking about folding the flop because I was pretty sure the turn bet was coming and that I'd be folding.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 120.86 BB (VPIP: 24.28, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 282)
UTG: 122.22 BB (VPIP: 13.62, PFR: 9.56, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 374)
MP: 147.48 BB (VPIP: 14.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
CO: 113.6 BB (VPIP: 26.06, PFR: 16.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 143)
BTN: 102.16 BB (VPIP: 15.92, PFR: 13.78, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 652)
Hero (SB): 112.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 2 players) K 5 Q
Hero bets 6 BB, UTG raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 26 BB, fold

UTG wins 33.26 BB

0.48 BB was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.
 
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Hi John - I'm wondering if I can join your study group at this late date? I've started reading Polished Poker (Vol 1, Rev 2), and have read a number of the posts in this thread (but definitely not all). If it's OK to join in, is there anything else that I need to do to prepare other than continuing to read the book and following this thread? Thanks in advance.

Hi Matt - you're welcome of course!

Yeah, just get through the material, ask question, post hands. You're welcome to join the skype sweats as well. Bruce (Figaroo2) usually coordinates and sets them up. So just PM him w/ your skype details and he can add you.
 
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Hand of the day, AK.


I didn't really think this one through..


iPoker - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 134.75 BB (VPIP: 68.75, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 16)
MP+1: 109.06 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
CO: 128.25 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 66)
Hero (BTN): 144.24 BB
SB: 158.26 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
BB: 125.01 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 40)
UTG: 21.92 BB (VPIP: 76.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 25)
UTG+1: 138.75 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 39)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.14 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 3.14 BB, fold, Hero raises to 13.28 BB, SB calls 12.78 BB, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 23.42 BB, Hero raises to 144.24 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 76.58 BB

Flop: (217.42 BB, 2 players) T 2 Q

Turn: (217.42 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (217.42 BB, 2 players) 3

MP+2 shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 93%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
Hero shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 7%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
MP+2 wins 214.42 BB
Hero wins 44.24 BB


Here I was thinking about folding the flop because I was pretty sure the turn bet was coming and that I'd be folding.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.50 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 120.86 BB (VPIP: 24.28, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 282)
UTG: 122.22 BB (VPIP: 13.62, PFR: 9.56, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 374)
MP: 147.48 BB (VPIP: 14.63, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
CO: 113.6 BB (VPIP: 26.06, PFR: 16.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 143)
BTN: 102.16 BB (VPIP: 15.92, PFR: 13.78, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 652)
Hero (SB): 112.38 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 2 players) K 5 Q
Hero bets 6 BB, UTG raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 26 BB, fold

UTG wins 33.26 BB

0.48 BB was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.

Raise more pre-flop, bet more on the flop, and call the turn. The sizing is so small it's really widened his range. Any aggression numbers?
 
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Thanks John those were the two hands I wanted to talk about from the sweat. I was imploring Oreo to just call on the trap hand getting 4-1 in position but in hindsight even calling is pretty dense. But at least not nearly as bad as getting it in.
And AKs in the blinds against a tight opener I agree our line is too weak. Oreo wanted to fold on the flop which I don't understand bearing in mind the flat of the 3bet which doesn't seem very strong. So if we call the turn are we calling on river bricks or is another bet the evidence we need that he was slow playing?
 
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Thanks John those were the two hands I wanted to talk about from the sweat. I was imploring Oreo to just call on the trap hand getting 4-1 in position but in hindsight even calling is pretty dense. But at least not nearly as bad as getting it in.
And AKs in the blinds against a tight opener I agree our line is too weak. Oreo wanted to fold on the flop which I don't understand bearing in mind the flat of the 3bet which doesn't seem very strong. So if we call the turn are we calling on river bricks or is another bet the evidence we need that he was slow playing?

Yeah, hand 1 is a rare time I'd just fold. This is such a typical FR trap from a nitty player. If they made a move here, good for them. I'd probably be insta mucking. Now if they were a donkey or whale, it makes it more interesting, and I'd probably call and use position. But ya, lots of signs on that one.

Second hand as played I'd call the turn and most rivers, but the hand is complicated by the weak beating. I don't mind weak betting if there's a purpose to induce, but w/o reads it just widens someone's range to a point where they think they might be value raising or can bluff, when in fact they are behind. Which complicates it more when you're against a somewhat tighter FR player who probably isn't that good. So Hero ends up getting to confused about his range vs. theirs and makes mistakes. Small flop bet, they could be raising with KJ, draws and even air in that spot because their pre-flop range can still be wide. The 3-bet size is pretty much really just an open raise. The turn bet sizing could be anything at this point. It could be as a pure bluff or a strong hand looking for value against another second best strong hand (set, two pair). You're lost and confused now w/ no plan, which is losing poker.
 
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Hi Matt - you're welcome of course!

Yeah, just get through the material, ask question, post hands. You're welcome to join the skype sweats as well. Bruce (Figaroo2) usually coordinates and sets them up. So just PM him w/ your skype details and he can add you.
Thanks. One question to get started. I've started using the PT4 HUD and play almost exclusively at pokerstars. I've had PT4 for a while, but don't usually use it because I find it distracting. That said, it's becoming pretty clear that I need to get used to it because the info can be invaluable. What are the minimum stats that you would recommend? I'm using VPIP, PFR, & 3-Bet Pre-Flop. If I wanted to add one, maybe two more stats, which ones would you recommend?
 
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Raise more pre-flop, bet more on the flop, and call the turn. The sizing is so small it's really widened his range. Any aggression numbers?
Ahh, that was a misclick pre. I mistook him for a limper. His aggresion is like 32%
 
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If this river card is different I have a winning session.
Whale who is sticky and aggro post flop

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.10 (201 bb)
UTG+2: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
MP1: $5 (50 bb)
MP2: $10.40 (104 bb)
MP3: $20.58 (205.8 bb) VPIP: 55, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 146
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $3.52 (35.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:heart: Q:club:
3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP3 calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.65) Q:diamond: 4:diamond: 3:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, MP3 calls $1.32

Turn: ($5.29) A:club: (2 players)
Hero bets $3.96, MP3 calls $3.96

River: ($13.21) 2:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, MP3 raises to $14 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.02 and is all-in
sorry cant lay down a set of queens to these stats although I knew i was almost certainly beat.

Results: $40.25 pot ($2.01 rake)
Final Board: Q:diamond: 4:diamond: 3:spade: A:club: 2:diamond:
Hero showed Q:heart: Q:club: and lost (-$20.10 net)
MP3 showed T:diamond: A:diamond: and won $38.24 ($18.14 net)

Bigger on the turn looks better, full pot, if he has an ace he's hanging around. 56s is there as well on the end.
 
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If this river card is different I have a winning session.
Whale who is sticky and aggro post flop

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.10 (201 bb)
UTG+2: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
MP1: $5 (50 bb)
MP2: $10.40 (104 bb)
MP3: $20.58 (205.8 bb) VPIP: 55, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 146
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $3.52 (35.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='black'>♣</font>
3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP3 calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.65) Q<font color='red'>♦</font> 4<font color='red'>♦</font> 3<font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, MP3 calls $1.32

Turn: ($5.29) A<font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $3.96, MP3 calls $3.96

River: ($13.21) 2<font color='red'>♦</font> (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, MP3 raises to $14 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.02 and is all-in
sorry cant lay down a set of queens to these stats although I knew i was almost certainly beat.

Results: $40.25 pot ($2.01 rake)
Final Board: Q<font color='red'>♦</font> 4<font color='red'>♦</font> 3<font color='black'>♠</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font> 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero showed Q<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='black'>♣</font> and lost (-$20.10 net)
MP3 showed T<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='red'>♦</font> and won $38.24 ($18.14 net)

Bigger on the turn looks better, full pot, if he has an ace he's hanging around. 56s is there as well on the end.

the problem with these guys is the flush but they could easily have the 5 as well.

but often hear if hes bad enough to have a 5 or chase down a flush hes going to have a lot of junk in his range as well and we cant always be good... but are we good enough?? i agree we can be but will villain spaz out enough after we bet? or perhaps should we just shove river
 
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ak facing a shove...

i always got a golden rule these days i want to be the guy shoving cuz u win the money when they fold or when we hit a or k against qq and jj usually. when we call the shove we lose so much unless ofc villains range is wider than usjal or a reg on bad tilt.

anyway that said with people being so scared with ak now rightfully so... almost worth shoving aq or aj hands as a bluff these days?
 
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ak facing a shove...

i always got a golden rule these days i want to be the guy shoving cuz u win the money when they fold or when we hit a or k against qq and jj usually. when we call the shove we lose so much unless ofc villains range is wider than usjal or a reg on bad tilt.

anyway that said with people being so scared with ak now rightfully so... almost worth shoving aq or aj hands as a bluff these days?

I think if AK 4 bet, they typically are crying calling the shove. What's shit at Pokerstars is the all-in from a reg is almost always KK+. It's so nitty.

A little off the topic. It means you can 2.2x a 4bet on the BTN against the SB/BB 3bet and print money if their 3 bet is 8%+. They don't know how to adjust. They ship AK/KK+ and flat TT-QQ. Regs at the high micros don't have a 5 bet bluff range and aren't comfortable shoving a more merged range.

I can't speak for other poker sites.
 
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If this river card is different I have a winning session.
Whale who is sticky and aggro post flopPacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 PlayersSB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.10 (201 bb)
UTG+2: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
MP1: $5 (50 bb)
MP2: $10.40 (104 bb)
MP3: $20.58 (205.8 bb) VPIP: 55, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 146
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $3.52 (35.2 bb)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP3 calls $0.95Flop: ($2.65) Q 4 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, MP3 calls $1.32Turn: ($5.29) A (2 players)
Hero bets $3.96, MP3 calls $3.96River: ($13.21) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, MP3 raises to $14 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.02 and is all-in
sorry cant lay down a set of queens to these stats although I knew i was almost certainly beat.Results: $40.25 pot ($2.01 rake)
Final Board: Q 4 3 A 2
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$20.10 net)
MP3 showed T A and won $38.24 ($18.14 net)Bigger on the turn looks better, full pot, if he has an ace he's hanging around. 56s is there as well on the end.
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Thanks. One question to get started. I've started using the PT4 HUD and play almost exclusively at PokerStars. I've had PT4 for a while, but don't usually use it because I find it distracting. That said, it's becoming pretty clear that I need to get used to it because the info can be invaluable. What are the minimum stats that you would recommend? I'm using VPIP, PFR, & 3-Bet Pre-Flop. If I wanted to add one, maybe two more stats, which ones would you recommend?

Well, it depends what stats you're talking about in terms of how much validity they have before they normalize. You can try using the hitman HUD to begin with. It's free and it focuses on making quick reads at the table, and you can expand on it from there. Those are the stats I recommend people to begin with in terms of player typing and creating a plan for how you're going to play your hand.
 
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If this river card is different I have a winning session.
Whale who is sticky and aggro post flop

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $20.10 (201 bb)
UTG+2: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
MP1: $5 (50 bb)
MP2: $10.40 (104 bb)
MP3: $20.58 (205.8 bb) VPIP: 55, PFR: 26, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 146
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $3.52 (35.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, MP3 calls $0.95

Flop: ($2.65) Q 4 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.32, MP3 calls $1.32

So something I've mentioned to you on sweats many times, you have to get out of auto sizing mode, especially against fish with big hands, if you want to maximize EV. You're leaving a lot of money on the table otherwise.

These guys can't fold, so it's always best to explot that. $2+ on the flop. Against other opponents on a somewhat ragged board, you can go less when you crush it this hard, but I'd still got 1.60ish even then.

Turn: ($5.29) A (2 players)
Hero bets $3.96, MP3 calls $3.96

If he's really aggressive, it's not a bad spot to CRAI. You'll get some Ax floats on that flop, and if you bet, you'll fold out a lot of his non Ax hands any ways. You temp lose some value vs. under pairs and draws if he doesn't bet, but you can make that up on the river vs. under pairs, and if he is aggressive enough, he'll bet his draws a large % of the time on this turn and you can commit him. You don't have to worry about him thinking about why you didn't use the A as a scare card bluff if you check. He won't be thinking about that enough of the time.

River: ($13.21) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, MP3 raises to $14 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.02 and is all-in
sorry cant lay down a set of queens to these stats although I knew i was almost certainly beat.

Yeah, river is pretty much the worst card for you. Diamonds and 56 got there. Both are in these kind of opponents range. Other strong hands would have woken up by the turn if you bet there (sets, etc). If you really break down his river range, you have way more combos of draws + straights, than you do Ax that will call a river bet. So it's kind of odd having a set and check/calling against someone like this, but I think if you break down that range and plotted it on a sizing chart that you could get paid off on, it's slightly higher EV to check (and against a lot of opponents, fold), but against this guy, calling 70% of pot or less. You can possible also get him to turn some of his weak made hands into bluffs here, since he's aggressive enough to likely do so a % of the time.

Bet/call is not horrible though. So it's not like one line is a huge difference EV wise. But I think the check line is slightly more profitable in this spot long term.
 
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Well, it depends what stats you're talking about in terms of how much validity they have before they normalize. You can try using the hitman HUD to begin with. It's free and it focuses on making quick reads at the table, and you can expand on it from there. Those are the stats I recommend people to begin with in terms of player typing and creating a plan for how you're going to play your hand.
Thanks John. I've watched the videos, downloaded/installed the PT4 HUD files, and am now trying it all out.

PS - I like the names that you use for the player profile types - especially "Nit's Grandma".
 
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Thanks John. I've watched the videos, downloaded/installed the PT4 HUD files, and am now trying it all out.

PS - I like the names that you use for the player profile types - especially "Nit's Grandma".

Hehe... you can name them what you want, but just want to try and make them simple and memorable.
 
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John, I'm very new to cardschat. I came here cause I want to get my game up and thriving, mainly live MTT's. My question is, Does the book your offering cover Live poker and help with tourney play? Thanks
 
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