Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[Sneaky Feet]

Why aren't you betting? All of that aside, even just a the river, what was your plan there? How much would you call if your opponent bet?

Good question.... Maybe a 30% bet on the river? It would have been a stretch to call a 1/2 pot bet here I think.

The only reason I didn't lead was I was looking to check raise. As played I didn't get that chance but that does lend to another question. Would this have been a good spot to check raise?

 

[John A]

Good question.... Maybe a 30% bet on the river? It would have been a stretch to call a 1/2 pot bet here I think.

The only reason I didn't lead was I was looking to check raise. As played I didn't get that chance but that does lend to another question. Would this have been a good spot to check raise?

Yeah, 1/3 pot would be good.

Only CR there in a re-raised pot if you think your opponent is aggressive. If they aren't or you aren't sure, just bet/bet.

 

[Sneaky Feet]

Yeah, 1/3 pot would be good.

Only CR there in a re-raised pot if you think your opponent is aggressive. If they aren't or you aren't sure, just bet/bet.

Awesome thanks man! I've got s bit of an issue leading the flop (do it way too much) that I'm trying to minimize so that's great advice for me. Still working on finding spots where leading is okay.

 

[rhombus]

Why aren't you betting? All of that aside, even just a the river, what was your plan there? How much would you call if your opponent bet?

Do you bet irrespective of villain, even the 5c/10c players are check raising with Air or Raising CBETS here.

so Bet Call Flop vs Aggros as both of you are full of %^&* and call down unless they bet big

and Bet call Flop vs passives but fold to a Turn Bet.

What if you bet 2/3 Flop, they call, 2/3 Turn they call, what do you do on river??.

I seem to get in similar situations where I have good hand on flop and turn but then the Ace or flush card or straight card hits river and I struggle

 

[John A]

I thought this was an interesting hand, and something to use as a base for understanding range and combinations.

http://www.acepokersolutions.com/poker-blog/making-tough-but-good-folds/

It was a hand from CC. Let me know your thoughts.

 

[rhombus]

I thought this was an interesting hand, and something to use as a base for understanding range and combinations.

http://www.acepokersolutions.com/poker-blog/making-tough-but-good-folds/

It was a hand from CC. Let me know your thoughts.

interesting stuff but I still couldnt fold

Also in the image of combinations when it shows
(4)
(2)
Is that a mathematical term for 2 from 4

PS WTF - was googling for card combinations and came across this

 

[duggs]

those are card combinations from the game cards against humanity

 

[or3o1990]

PS WTF - was googling for card combinations and came across this

Somehow the big black dick card got left out? -EV

I thought this was an interesting hand, and something to use as a base for understanding range and combinations.

http://www.acepokersolutions.com/pok...ut-good-folds/

It was a hand from CC. Let me know your thoughts.

I think that the line was strange but it saved him money. I'd more likely call flop and c/r the turn and end up losing more. The logic is sound though. Best case scenario on the end is a chop.

 

[Sneaky Feet]

those are card combinations from the game cards against humanity

Played that at Christmas time with my girlfriend's family. Learned a few things about her mom....

 

[fletchdad]

John, I got a Kindle Paperwhite for christmas and want to read your Vol. 1 on it. Can I just put it on or do I need to do any converting? I have the PDF.

Sorry, I know I can look this up, but in case there is something I should do first which you know about makes it easier to read on a Kindle PW.

 

[Figaroo2]

I thought this was an interesting hand, and something to use as a base for understanding range and combinations.

http://www.acepokersolutions.com/poker-blog/making-tough-but-good-folds/
It was a hand from CC. Let me know your thoughts.

Small point but you show 2 combos of JJ why isn't it 3?
I agree this is a fold against this player type and the key point for me is its never a bluff because of the odds given on the end. Also I know from previous hands that our hero is squeaky tight (about 16/14 at 6max) the villain will be putting him on a strong range
like Rhom though I still struggle to fold this myself if it was against me playing wider. The problem is at this level villains turn up with all sorts of unexpected hands in these spots and they are often shoving AK & AJ here thinking it's for value.
His vpip pfr ratio is quite wide over a good sample so he probably likes to take a lot of flops presumably the button. I'd like to see his btn 3bet stats. Some guys at this level 3bet a lot from the blinds and rarely from the button. Others are 3 betting just in position and never from the blinds it's a right old mixture.

 

[John A]

interesting stuff but I still couldnt fold

Also in the image of combinations when it shows
(4)
(2)
Is that a mathematical term for 2 from 4

PS WTF - was googling for card combinations and came across this

I'm not sure about the image. It's actually not mine, I just googled to put a graphic on the page. Doesn't really have to do w/ what's below necessarily.

And yeah, standard combination graphic you found there.

 

[John A]

Somehow the big black dick card got left out? -EV




I think that the line was strange but it saved him money. I'd more likely call flop and c/r the turn and end up losing more. The logic is sound though. Best case scenario on the end is a chop.

Well, he bet the river and called. So he lost just the same no matter what, although it's a hand you should be able to get away from. That aside, should he have bet the river?

 

[John A]

Small point but you show 2 combos of JJ why isn't it 3?
I agree this is a fold against this player type and the key point for me is its never a bluff because of the odds given on the end. Also I know from previous hands that our hero is squeaky tight (about 16/14 at 6max) the villain will be putting him on a strong range
like Rhom though I still struggle to fold this myself if it was against me playing wider. The problem is at this level villains turn up with all sorts of unexpected hands in these spots and they are often shoving AK & AJ here thinking it's for value.
His vpip pfr ratio is quite wide over a good sample so he probably likes to take a lot of flops presumably the button. I'd like to see his btn 3bet stats. Some guys at this level 3bet a lot from the blinds and rarely from the button. Others are 3 betting just in position and never from the blinds it's a right old mixture.

Yes, fixed to 3, thanks. Not sure how that happened.

Well, someone shoving AK 100% for value, even though it wouldn't be correct I can understand at that level. A tight opponent shoving AJ 100% at this level, probably not, but you tell me? A better question is, how often does he need to be shoving AJ to make this a call? I mean he's 150 bbs deep. Maybe a 100 bbs deep, but that's kind of also the point. Being 1/5 buyins deep, this kind of hand should be able to find a fold since there's just nothing except for AJ that he's beating.

 

[mrbond8844]

You're gonna lose a lot before you start making any noticeable profits. It's not scrooge mcduck bucks with a first deposit. Be prepared to lose til you have the experience AND luck to win. I recommend full tilt jackpots, 3 people tops and minimum double your profit. Cheers and best of luck bro

 

[John A]

huh?

 

[or3o1990]

I kind of assumed hero lays it down in the end? No but I don't think I get away from at least a check and call on the end.

 

[or3o1990]

Thanks again for the sweat yesterday. I'm the first to admit that my thought process has become stagnant. Too much grinding and not enough skype sessions I think

 

[rhombus]

huh?

makes better sense in french

vous allez perdre beaucoup avant de commencer à faire des profits notables .
Il est pas Scrooge dollars Picsou avec un premier dépôt .
Soyez prêt à perdre jusqu'à ce que vous avez l'expérience et la chance de gagner .
Je recommande jackpots Full Tilt , 3 personnes tops et minimum doubler votre profit.
Des cris de joie et bonne chance bro

 

[rhombus]

Played that at Christmas time with my girlfriend's family. Learned a few things about her mom....

Never heard of it before, assuming these are all the cards for it

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cah/CAH_MainGame.pdf

 

[Sneaky Feet]

Never heard of it before, assuming these are all the cards for it

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cah/CAH_MainGame.pdf

Yep! That's the one! And what ever answer makes the person laugh the most wins.

 

[John A]

John, I got a Kindle Paperwhite for christmas and want to read your Vol. 1 on it. Can I just put it on or do I need to do any converting? I have the PDF.

Sorry, I know I can look this up, but in case there is something I should do first which you know about makes it easier to read on a Kindle PW.

Sorry, missed this. When you download there's a kindle version that will work with it. Sp there's a PDF and kindle version.

 

[Sneaky Feet]

Hero?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (SB) ($5.73)
BB ($6.06)
UTG ($20.82)
MP ($5.64)
CO ($5)
Button ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, Q

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 8

, 10

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.55) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, CO raises to $3.75 (All-In)

Total pot: $5.45

 

[John A]

Thanks again for the sweat yesterday. I'm the first to admit that my thought process has become stagnant. Too much grinding and not enough skype sessions I think

You're completely welcome. That's why I go on this group calls w/ you guys... to berate you and get you to think outside of your normal box.

In all seriousness, I just want you guys to start considering what's happening beyond that hit or fold part of poker. There's a lot of profitable spots to find small / medium bluffs that will be profitable. I like to focus on those because they are much easier and less risky to do.

 

[John A]

Hero?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (SB) ($5.73)
BB ($6.06)
UTG ($20.82)
MP ($5.64)
CO ($5)
Button ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, Q

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05) 8

, 10

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, CO calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.55) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.45, CO raises to $3.75 (All-In)

Total pot: $5.45

Not entirely sure what you're asking... but I'll start w/ saying, don't c-bet that flop. And if you're not sure what you're doing to a shove on the turn, then you def should not be betting. But as played you have to call of course. Maybe you meant something else.