John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Deep stacks
So you were hoping for flush over flush or set vs flush that doesn't complete basically?
Deep stacks
So you were hoping for flush over flush or set vs flush that doesn't complete basically?
Yeah this is a bit of a cooler, its difficult folding full houses to a guy with his stats, the only problem is we have bottom set which does make us more vulnerable than usual to a suck out.
I think we could bet bigger on the turn but makes no difference on the end, I can't see I'm ever folding,
If he had QQ KQ we would probably hear about it on the flop or turn but he could easily be playing both a bit slow.
Really difficult to put him on KJ but I don't think he is really shoving AK like this.... so it is difficult to see what we beat.
When you post it, don't show his hand, just ask do we call the shove?
I get were you are going with this, 3bet or fold right.
This deep and at this particular table almost every hand was multi-handed unless you put in a very big raise pre. There was very little folding to 3bets and a ton of limp calling up to x6-x7, you had to make it like x10 to get a fold pre.
The btn was a fish which is why I got in the hand.
With it still being 3handed ideally want flush over flush which is a possibility. That is what I was looking for with the check raise as if there was a small flush out there they would likely get in in at that point, you risk another diamond on the river and the small flush doesn't pay off.
A set in the hands of the fish might even decide to gamble.
Clearly the CR loses value as straight draws might arrive on the river and get into trouble
As it was I still picked up a reasonable pot 64bb.
I posted this hand in my thread but I wanted to see what you guys thought of it. Kind of coolerish but with the 4 card straight on the end I figured all of his Ax could be doing this. Thoughts?
iPoker - $1 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
UTG: 50.95 BB (VPIP: 10.26, PFR: 2.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
UTG+1: 54.15 BB (VPIP: 17.07, PFR: 4.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
MP: 99 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 143.9 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 17.95 BB (VPIP: 49.02, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 51)
BTN: 27.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 43.73 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
Hero (BB): 184.92 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♦ T♣
fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.38 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.38 BB
Flop: (5.26 BB, 2 players) T♠ Q♦ K♦
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, MP+1 calls 7 BB
Turn: (25.26 BB, 2 players) K♣
Hero bets 15 BB, MP+1 calls 15 BB
River: (55.26 BB, 2 players) J♣
Hero bets 38 BB, MP+1 raises to 116.52 BB, Hero calls 78.52 BB
MP+1 shows J♠ K♥ (Full House, Kings full of Jacks)
(Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks T♦ T♣ (Full House, Tens full of Kings)
(Pre 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 84%)
MP+1 wins 285.3 BB
Couple of hands played yesterday not sure If I pay off or not???
Hand 1 happens alot and really struggle with it. I raise Preflop, CBET Flop and Turn then when I check River they bet. NOt sure what I should be looking for to call or Not.
Is it just villain dependant as alot of players float with weak draws and better draws, then fire River when they dont hit.
Hand 1 Villain 30/21 A%48 3B 15.5 55 Hands
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $21.66 (216.6 bb)
MP: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $10.29 (102.9 bb)
BTN: $10.09 (100.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 3A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 84Q(2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40
Turn: ($1.40) 3(2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BB calls $1.10
River: ($3.60) 4(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2, Hero ??
Just fold pre. It sucks, he's going to be squeezing a wide range a lot there, but oh well. Really strange bet amounts. I think at this level you can get away w/ betting the turn here. As played, river is probably pretty close to neutral EV call/fold. He looks like he may just be a monkey based on his stats. So I probably just look him up, but I don't think a fold is that far off.Hand 2 Villain - Same Villain as Hand 1
Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
Hero (SB): $10 (100 bb)
BB: $16.11 (161.1 bb)
MP: $14.95 (149.5 bb)
CO: $13.87 (138.7 bb)
BTN: $22.50 (225 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 66
MP folds, CO raises to $0.22, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.17, BB raises to $0.88, CO folds, Hero calls $0.66
Flop: ($1.98) 2K2(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60
Turn: ($3.18) 2(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20
River: ($5.58) 5(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.30, Hero ????
agg numbers? Any ways, CR bigger on the flop. Bet larger on the turn. I think you can bet/fold on the river. I mean, only a small % of people are jamming straights there w/ how that hand played out. I don't think someone like this is every turning his hand into a bluff either. So either you were already far behind by the turn, or the river did you in.
What about this one vs a decent reg.
iPoker - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 106.25 BB
SB: 199.5 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 18)
UTG: 189.15 BB (VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
CO: 139.68 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K<font color='black'>♣</font> 8<font color='black'>♣</font>
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='red'>♦</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>
BB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 5<font color='black'>♣</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, BB raises to 15.5 BB, Hero calls 10.5 BB
River: (37.5 BB, 2 players) 2<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB bets 19.75 BB, Hero calls 19.75 BB
lol I got both right and saw both gorillas, although in 2nd video didnt notice the person leaving and curtains changing colour although red and gold looked pretty similar to me
PS i guess you missed the 2nd video as well
Not sure what to make of this hand his small check raise and smallish river value looking bet reeks of nuts or air so we call for the information as to what he has when he check raises like this and in the hope that we are good here sometimes I suppose.
I can't see what worse that we beat check raises though QJ at a stretch unless he's just trying his luck with his garbage.
I'd expect to see QT J9 KT KJ most of the time. He has 3bet a few times already so we know he has aggressive tendencies enough to do this with air on occasion.
A3
Well you either fire the 3rd barrel or you give up, we aint calling with a pair of 3's!! This is the problem with playing oop especially blind v blind when you have no idea what he has. The key to the 3rd barrel is his wtsd% if its under say 22% then fireaway anything more than 26% definite fold. In between its meh and i'd be looking at how aggressive is he generally and what's his river bet%.
66 I'm folding preflop everytime without batting an eyelid unless its mega deep. Even if we hit a set getting paid oop is really difficult. Tbh mate that is a bad call.
Just get off this table, where is your fish? Where is your edge on this table, who are you targeting?
A3: he called two large barrels. He's not folding, you didn't improve to beat a bluff. Get out. And this is coming from someone who calls down sick light.
66: I agree with Figaroo2: fold preflop. Not the first call, though, that one is fine, imo. But once the BB 3-bets, you're in trouble.
Looks good, fold river.
Just fold pre. It sucks, he's going to be squeezing a wide range a lot there, but oh well. Really strange bet amounts. I think at this level you can get away w/ betting the turn here. As played, river is probably pretty close to neutral EV call/fold. He looks like he may just be a monkey based on his stats. So I probably just look him up, but I don't think a fold is that far off.
I tend to be very cautious on boards with 3 broadways on them as it hits a lot of ranges very hard. Given that he called a BTN raise from the BB his range in this situation would be wider than just broadways. Do you think that when you check behind on the flop he would bet almost all of his one pair hands into you on the turn, meaning that by check raising his range becomes very polarized to either Jx (could even be pair and a straight draw type hands, most of which we beat) or a made straight?
QT that was my first choice in my reply postCR on the turn is more like nuts or air, not Jx though. He likely bets Jx on the turn or CR flop a large %. Yeah, I didn't like how I played this hand. I don't mind the turn call, because like I said, I open up his bluffing range. I should have folded the river, and I wanted to. Some demon took over and made me call. He had QT.
QT that was my first choice in my reply post
I should be around for a sweat later.
9hTh cos u was playing him, if it was my villain they would have 44 lolAnother interesting hand from last night.
iPoker - $2 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 117.63 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 3.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
UTG: 170.29 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
Hero (UTG+1): 103.3 BB
MP: 6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP+2: 61.2 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 54.06 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
BTN: 97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 24.83 BB (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♥
UTG raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 8 BB, fold, UTG calls 6.5 BB
Flop: (26.5 BB, 3 players) 8♥ J♠ 4♣
SB checks, UTG bets 13.25 BB, Hero raises to 26.5 BB, fold, UTG calls 13.25 BB
Turn: (79.5 BB, 2 players) J♦
UTG bets 135.29 BB, Hero calls 68.3 BB
River: (216.1 BB, 2 players) 6♣
Any guesses on what he had?