*Don't Touch* Oreo's Cash Game Grind

[Figaroo2]

AJ, he's a fish and is going to be calling this wet flop with all sorts of draws. The 5 is a brick so I fancy he is going to call with worse plenty here so betting the turn is ok for me.

TJ , again looking fishy and I don't like to try and bluff these guys with nada. I'm not sure about this hand preflop tbh, against this type of player who never fold to 3bets I might just call here in the BB with this speculative hand.
As played if I was going to cbet I'd make it bigger for extra FE. 16-17 rather than your 12
If he calls and we pair here I'm pot controlling the turn with a likely check call and evaluating again on the river.
As played I fold as well.

KT again oop I'm cbetting bigger, 14-15, half pot is only scaring away a total whiff. If he calls a bigger flop bet and then we pair but the flush arrives I'm pot controlling oop with a check call, its just my way, especially knowing these loose players love any two suited cards.

 

[xdeucesx]

Yo Oreo,

A former CC guy (taaron, sexy tom aaron) plays at that dog track card room lol. Also, if you ever go to Tampa, I have a very good friend who grinds there professionally now. He can probably help you out w/a hotel rec.


I'll come back to comment on hands tonight

 

[or3o1990]

Thanks for the feedback Bruce. I'll have to give it some thought later. I'm so tilted right now I can barely think straight!! People are such ****s it's goddamned frustrating! I feel like I'm running bad at life right now

Nearly got killed by careless driver's twice while riding my bike in the past 24 hours! I was literally waving at the first person as I approached the crosswalk a good 20 yards out because I'm well aware that people are dumb as shit. Goofy bitch still rolls the stop and would have hit me if it weren't for her passenger yelling at her.. My mouse took a shit on me mid session last night so first thing this morning it's off to the electronics store and on the way back same thing. Some douche only looking one way nearly nailed me coming out of a parking lot and then wanted to yell at me about it. I flip him the bird and yell GFY to whatever it was he was saying to me that I couldn't hear. I was ready to kill that ****er if he would have gotten out of the car.

I was probably already tilted this morning because I didn't get any rest last night because my mom's worthless unemployable boyfriend was loud as shit till 3 am. Finally I get to bed around 5 (I managed to reread "Strategies for Beating Small Stakes Poker Cash Games" by Jonathan Little in that time. Sadly, the Florida humidity damaged my kindle fire ..) and by 830 he's up slamming doors like a *****. So I'm awake, pissed and running on fumes! It's like people don't respect me or what I do. New friends are giving me shit because I won't skip poker on a Thursday night to stand around at the bar. Mfer if I don't play I don't eat! I been on vacation for three months and need to get back on my grind, let me do me! I can't get 4 FR 100nl tables up after an hour of sitting around and to top it off my BOL card catcher was supposed to working a week ago according to support but noooope.

I'm a lot of things and a perfect person isn't one of them. I am however a considerate human being. I give motorcycles and pedestrians extra cushion on the road because I realize they're extremely vulnerable when they're 4000lb vehicles all around them. I'm respectful of my roommates privacy and schedules. I'm not giving my friends a hard time about missing brunch on a Tuesday because they won't play hooky at their "real jobs" in warehouses and restaurants. FWIW if I was your mouse I'd never tap out on you mid sesh, I'd hang in there and give you a heads up at least


Well what tf ever, that's my rant. I need to go to the gym or get laid or something. I've got too much frustration in me right now.. The way I've been running though I could find a virgin, use two rubbers and still catch AIDS somehow lol. Alas, run bad in life isn't much different than run bad in poker. It happens, it's mostly out of our control and we can't let it ruin our ability to make solid decisions. I am however, off to make some marginally less than optimal decisions. Starting with alcohol and BBQ chicken.


All we can do is try to GII good and hold tf on! I'll be back at tomorrow!

iPoker - $1 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 21 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BTN: 99.65 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 25 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BB: 132.02 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 115.85 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
Hero (UTG+1): 100 BB
MP: 88.05 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 95.7 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♥

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 12 BB, fold, BB calls 11 BB, Hero raises to 28 BB, fold, BTN calls 16 BB, BB calls 16 BB

Flop: (87.5 BB, 3 players) A♣ Q♣ 9♦
BB bets 104.02 BB, Hero calls 72 BB, fold

Turn: (231.5 BB, 2 players) 4♥

River: (231.5 BB, 2 players) K♣

BB shows T♣ 7♣ (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 27%, Turn 16%)
Hero mucks Q♠ Q♥ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 80%, Flop 73%, Turn 84%)
BB wins 260.52 BB

 

[or3o1990]

Yo Oreo,

A former CC guy (taaron, sexy tom aaron) plays at that dog track card room lol. Also, if you ever go to Tampa, I have a very good friend who grinds there professionally now. He can probably help you out w/a hotel rec.


I'll come back to comment on hands tonight

Aye, good to know dude! And I'm looking forward to the flames haha

 

[BenjiHustle]

QQ: Raise bigger PF. Nothing much to be done after that. I most likely 4-bet PF, but if you're trying to keep the BB around, I can see why you just called and it should've paid off.

 

[or3o1990]

The button went into the tank on it. I imagine he had some Ace. I wasn't so sure what I wanted to do here tbh. I was pretty sure the BB was this whale I've been doing battle with the past few days but I didn't know quite what to make of the btn.

 

[or3o1990]

Soo I went for a bike ride. Then I grilled some chicken and corn on the cob. My mom made potatoes. After I maxed out a little I felt better, no alcohol necessary. Then I got back in there for a few hours and booked my first winning session of the week

 

[Figaroo2]

Man it's good to vent your frustration rather than bottling it so don't hold back. I used to vent onto golf balls on the driving range!
Part of my journey to work since 2001 has been 5 miles a day to and from the train station. I have been knocked down twice, once from behind at 4.30 on a sunny June afternoon on a straight road. I have also had a couple of heavy falls on ice and diesel. I've lost count of cars emerging from side turnings that don't look properly you have to anticipate and look at the driver for eye contact. Things got better after I started wearing a full high visibility top and hi vis rucksack. They definitely help I'd rather be safer and look like a lemon than dead in the gutter.

I'd also be giving you a hard time if you weren't taking off one evening a week to socialise. Poker can get so all consuming if you play all the time and don't get away from it doing something where it's far from your thoughts and how are you going to get laid if you don't get out into social situations. At your age I had a lot of girlfriends mostly met in bars and you are a good looking lad so get out there and have some fun. In a bar eye contact is the thing once a girl you like the look of has looked you over twice just leave your buddies and head right over. Work hard play hard was good for me. Don't have regrets about seeing a girl you like the look of but chickening out on talking to her.
I'm starting to feel like an agony uncle here so I'd better stop teaching you to suck eggs.

 

[duggs]

AK on QQ6 I guess im ok with cbetting, im not cbetting a JJx or a TTx board i dont think tho, somewhat torn but i guess we have more Qx in our range than he does?

AK fold looks fine we are toast against that sizing.

AKcc on Txx im cbetting as the 3bettor v UTG flatter, we have bdfd so have some good barrel cards and he is reasonably capped. this is basically our best bluff candidate and we block alot of his slowplays.

AJ looks pretty thin, im fine not betting it.

JTss, god we ****ing whiffed that board, really boils down to how exploitably you think we can bluff, if we cant go wild this looks like a hand to give up with, we also block the types of hands we want to be putting the hurt on. Turn looks like a check, zero value from his bluff catchers and putting money in dead quite often, occasionally we fold out his weak single diamonds but dont think its worth it.

KT yuck, def dont need to bet bigger on flop, like the sizing, why would we be potting with a SPR of 3? shitty spot, think we are dead quite often but we might do just about ok to make it a call, would need to crunch numbers.

QQ I want to 4bet a little bit bigger with the overcaller, im just nitpicking tho nice hand!

 

[xdeucesx]

You still hitting the gym Oreo?

 

[or3o1990]

Man it's good to vent your frustration rather than bottling it so don't hold back. I used to vent onto golf balls on the driving range!
Part of my journey to work since 2001 has been 5 miles a day to and from the train station. I have been knocked down twice, once from behind at 4.30 on a sunny June afternoon on a straight road. I have also had a couple of heavy falls on ice and diesel. I've lost count of cars emerging from side turnings that don't look properly you have to anticipate and look at the driver for eye contact. Things got better after I started wearing a full high visibility top and hi vis rucksack. They definitely help I'd rather be safer and look like a lemon than dead in the gutter.

I'd also be giving you a hard time if you weren't taking off one evening a week to socialise. Poker can get so all consuming if you play all the time and don't get away from it doing something where it's far from your thoughts and how are you going to get laid if you don't get out into social situations. At your age I had a lot of girlfriends mostly met in bars and you are a good looking lad so get out there and have some fun. In a bar eye contact is the thing once a girl you like the look of has looked you over twice just leave your buddies and head right over. Work hard play hard was good for me. Don't have regrets about seeing a girl you like the look of but chickening out on talking to her.
I'm starting to feel like an agony uncle here so I'd better stop teaching you to suck eggs.

Man it's ridiculous that people can be so careless on the roads.. That's the bulk of what was ruining my day. That and the lack of sleep, I'm a real POS when I don't get adequate sleep lol.

No worries and thanks for the kind words Unlce B lol! I know I can have a bit of an obsessive streak at times. It's nice because I enjoy really tearing something to pieces until I fully understand it. Proper preparation is key to my confidence. But I know I need to keep at least some "socializing range" if I want to keep my sanity. So I'm making sure not to spend all of my time gambling in the dark lol..

AK on QQ6 I guess im ok with cbetting, im not cbetting a JJx or a TTx board i dont think tho, somewhat torn but i guess we have more Qx in our range than he does?

AK fold looks fine we are toast against that sizing.

AKcc on Txx im cbetting as the 3bettor v UTG flatter, we have bdfd so have some good barrel cards and he is reasonably capped. this is basically our best bluff candidate and we block alot of his slowplays.

AJ looks pretty thin, im fine not betting it.

JTss, god we ****ing whiffed that board, really boils down to how exploitably you think we can bluff, if we cant go wild this looks like a hand to give up with, we also block the types of hands we want to be putting the hurt on. Turn looks like a check, zero value from his bluff catchers and putting money in dead quite often, occasionally we fold out his weak single diamonds but dont think its worth it.

KT yuck, def dont need to bet bigger on flop, like the sizing, why would we be potting with a SPR of 3? shitty spot, think we are dead quite often but we might do just about ok to make it a call, would need to crunch numbers.

QQ I want to 4bet a little bit bigger with the overcaller, im just nitpicking tho nice hand!

I'm not sure if I actually have more q's on the QQ6 vs this villain. I have showdown value with my A high but I kind of defaulted to cbetting. I think I could have made it smaller to try to encourage worse A high's and BD draws to float, like 1/2p..


I did make the call with k10. Villain had j10 with a diamond..



With the QQ I was trying to leave myself room to gtfo if they both GII lol. But with that whale in the blinds, bigger is better for sure.

You still hitting the gym Oreo?

Admittedly, I've been pretty lazy with it the past couple of months. I'm getting back into the swing of things though.

 

[or3o1990]

A (barely) revised list of my poker goals.



1)hours/week
A: 35play/5study
B: 30play/7study


2)Mentor others
A: sweat sessions
B: posting in forums


3)BR by 2017
A: 500nl


I'm using August to get up to speed. So I won't be holding my feet to the fire over not making my goals this month but hopefully by September I'll be back in full swing! It looks like I'm going to have to start playing at least some 6max too now because that's all anyone seems to want to play online.. It had to happen eventually, why not now?

 

[or3o1990]

How nitty am I?



iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 87 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
CO: 111 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 13)
Hero (BTN): 98.5 BB
SB: 70.95 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♥

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero raises to 20 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (41 BB, 2 players) 7♥ K♣ 4♣
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) T♠
SB bets 20 BB, fold

SB wins 59 BB

 

[Figaroo2]

Unless you are happy to call a 5 bet shove I'd just flat the 3bet in position and keep in all his crappy Ax where we are 70% fav.
As played I am calling once. If he bets twice that is the evidence I need that he likely had AK and wasn't just taking a shot with JJ.

 

[TimovieMan]

The thing is that we still beat hands like JJ/99/AQ (it's BTN vs SB so he's wider than just QQ+/AK), but he's probably stabbing those on the turn if you check the flop through, because checking through makes your hand look like exactly QQ.
That's why I stab the flop and check the turn through instead. Looks more like pot control that way, so he may not even bet the river then.


Edit: Fig, you're not seriously only 4-betting KK+ vs suspected nits, are you???

 

[or3o1990]

I agree that villain should be wider but I'm not certain that is the case here. Especially when he flats the 4bet. Smelled like KK or AA not wanting to scare me off preflop. Even if he has AJ and 99,JJ in his range I don't think this is the type of guy to thin value bet or turn those hands into a bluff but I could be wrong.

I would have gladly gotten it in preflop but peeling the turn for 20bb would have put me in the most annoying spot on the river when I'd be folding getting 4-1.

 

[duggs]

Unless you are happy to call a 5 bet shove I'd just flat the 3bet in position and keep in all his crappy Ax where we are 70% fav.
As played I am calling once. If he bets twice that is the evidence I need that he likely had AK and wasn't just taking a shot with JJ.

are we really not comfortable stacking QQ 4 handed 100bb deep?

 

[or3o1990]

Btw my internet crapped out on me mid sesh yesterday 😑. Cable company won't be out until Friday to diagnose the issue. Life is tilting lately. I got a book in the mail today, Ed millers "The Course". Should be good! For the next couple of days I'll probably just read and kick pigeons... Since I can't gamble on the inter webs.

 

[Figaroo2]

are we really not comfortable stacking QQ 4 handed 100bb deep?

That particular villian was pretty snug tight so far considering it was 4 handed, but usually yeah 4 handed QQ all in is fine, depends entirely on the villain for me.

 

[or3o1990]

I'm pretty happy with how I played tonight.

Good triple barrel? I figured 6x folds the turn, two pairs raise the turn and not many limped Jx hands are making it to showdown here. Was a bit wary of firing the turn into two callers after the flop but the turn gave me equity and I never get to realize it if I check. So I just bet.


iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 132.85 BB (VPIP: 44.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 25)
MP: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
CO: 48.73 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
BTN: 86.25 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: 103.85 BB (VPIP: 30.65, PFR: 20.97, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 62)
Hero (BB): 155.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ K♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 5 BB, UTG calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 3 players) 6♠ T♥ 4♠
SB checks, Hero bets 8 BB, UTG calls 8 BB, SB calls 8 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 3 players) J♣
SB checks, Hero bets 19.5 BB, fold, SB calls 19.5 BB

River: (78 BB, 2 players) 6♥
SB checks, Hero bets 40 BB, fold

Hero mucks A♦ K♥ (One Pair, Sixes)

Hero wins 115 BB



Could have should have 3bet pre but the guy on my left was a maniac so I wasn't able to do much up until this point. I bet the turn with the intention of folding if he raised as I did on the river. His range is just too strong to call on the end right?

iPoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 131.6 BB (VPIP: 16.22, PFR: 5.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
BTN: 108.15 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (SB): 101.25 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 280.37 BB (VPIP: 58.82, PFR: 26.47, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 37)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ A♦

fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 5♣ J♥ Q♣
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, fold

Turn: (17 BB, 2 players) 4♣
Hero bets 11.5 BB, CO calls 11.5 BB

River: (40 BB, 2 players) 7♥
Hero bets 22 BB, CO raises to 55 BB, fold

CO wins 115 BB



The villain in this hand was a serial floater but folded the turn A LOT. Hence the turn check. He was aggro though so I expected him to bet his flushes on the river after I'd checked the turn but I knew I couldn't get much value from his hands I beat here so I bet smallish. I figured this could open his bluffing range with him being as aggressive as he was. So the plan was not to fold if that happened. Is this OK or nah?

iPoker - $1 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 109.02 BB (VPIP: 11.22, PFR: 2.31, 3Bet Preflop: 0.72, Hands: 304)
MP+2: 44.44 BB (VPIP: 15.22, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 93)
CO: 81.14 BB (VPIP: 13.75, PFR: 8.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 80)
BTN: 117.57 BB (VPIP: 18.34, PFR: 16.27, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 340)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 15.77, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.80, Hands: 225)
BB: 31.28 BB (VPIP: 10.63, PFR: 9.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.04, Hands: 304)
UTG: 158.14 BB (VPIP: 41.10, PFR: 5.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 73)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.56, PFR: 11.86, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 59)
UTG+2: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 17.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 28)
MP: 414.38 BB (VPIP: 54.92, PFR: 37.70, 3Bet Preflop: 25.53, Hands: 123)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, BTN raises to 14 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 11 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (35.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥ T♦ 7♥
MP checks, BTN bets 20.35 BB, MP calls 20.35 BB

Turn: (76.2 BB, 2 players) 4♥
MP checks, BTN checks

River: (76.2 BB, 2 players) 4♠
MP checks, BTN bets 31.6 BB, MP raises to 65 BB, BTN calls 33.4 BB

BTN shows J♦ J♣ (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
(Pre 80%, Flop 52%, Turn 0%)
MP shows 9♥ 8♥ (Flush, Nine High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 48%, Turn 100%)
MP wins 203.2 BB

 

[MinhANguyen]

AK hand I think we should just be giving up OTF. This board smashes two limpers' calling range, and we have no backdoor equity other than runner runner that has no spades. Turn is a check back. We have almost zero fold equity against two players that called the flop. I think it's more likely you just folded a draw OTR.

AA hand is a mandatory 3-bet against nitty CO's opening range. He's calling pretty much his entire range, and you need to start piling money in. Turn is a check-call, and river check-fold. Or bet river if the turn is checked through. River is a check-fold as played though. Don't think he calls one pair hands or with worse after your turn lead and river lead when the flush completes.

JJ I think we should just bet half-pot. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to do here, and we don't want to start leveling ourselves. As played, it should be a fold though. Hardly anyone would play a bluff like this. They'd just lead the river putting you on AK if they did. And bluffcatchers just call.

 

[TimovieMan]

Good triple barrel? I figured 6x folds the turn, two pairs raise the turn and not many limped Jx hands are making it to showdown here. Was a bit wary of firing the turn into two callers after the flop but the turn gave me equity and I never get to realize it if I check. So I just bet.

I actually quite like it. With the added equity on that turn card you can bet the turn again, and after having done that, and the board pairing up, you're folding all Jx and Tx hands. This will probably work enough to try, especially since you bet the flop and turn into two opponents, basically repping KK+.

Could have should have 3bet pre but the guy on my left was a maniac so I wasn't able to do much up until this point. I bet the turn with the intention of folding if he raised as I did on the river. His range is just too strong to call on the end right?

I'd prefer to induce on a river like this, but with the way preflop, flop and turn played out, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

The villain in this hand was a serial floater but folded the turn A LOT. Hence the turn check. He was aggro though so I expected him to bet his flushes on the river after I'd checked the turn but I knew I couldn't get much value from his hands I beat here so I bet smallish. I figured this could open his bluffing range with him being as aggressive as he was. So the plan was not to fold if that happened. Is this OK or nah?

I don't really mind the way this was played but if you're checking that flop through and you're still getting check-raised on that river, then that's not going to be a bluff nearly often enough to work. A bluff would lead, imo, which was the point of the turn check-through.

 

[Figaroo2]

AK, I'm not betting the river Ak has ample showdown value against his busted draws 35 75 78 79 89 9T are all about here.
On the river other than the weak T I can't really see what we beat that we make fold on the end here.

AA you totally butchered it, just raise if there is a true maniac in the BB he's usually still playing even in a 3 bet pot and then you have extra money in already.
As played you should still be charging all the draws on that wet board and a maniac will still gii with a good Q. I don't understand why you are giving the CO such a strong range here, its folded to him and you only have 37 hands which is too small a sample to know his tendencies. He could be using his low tension count to open any sort of speculative junk.

JJ much as it hurts, bet fold on the end

 

[or3o1990]

Feedback appreciated guys.

I could see c/f the flop sometimes with the AK because it does hit their limping ranges. But with the over's and backdoor equity added to the idea that the only limp calling hands that are calling three bets are sets and J10. We would have heard about those hands by the turn in most cases. So on the river the sb's range is incredibly weak. What else can he have that's calling? He did tank on it for a bit so I figure he let a 10 go on the end. One thing I didn't consider at the time is that it was very possible that not all of my outs were clean!

AA you totally butchered it

Is that only because I didn't reraise preflop or because I folded on the end?

The guy vipip 2/37, which definitely says A LOT, especially in a 6max game. But I had the same thinking as you. He could be just deciding to open up a bit but I'm pretty sure I know how he would respond to a 3bet, he'll just fold all of his non premium hands. So I'm pretty much hoping to cooler him if 3betting is the plan here. Also, the UTG player was the maniac but even he would have most likely gotten out of the way of my 3bet as I'd only vpip 5/35 hands. The guy in the bb was new to the table.

JJ I think we should just bet half-pot. It's pretty obvious what you're trying to do here, and we don't want to start leveling ourselves. As played, it should be a fold though. Hardly anyone would play a bluff like this. They'd just lead the river putting you on AK if they did. And bluffcatchers just call.

Sure, I should have just stuck in the extra 4bb's lol. But to be clear I was not trying to induce a bluff. Just trying to get a little value from villains very weak range. Up until he raises the river we're crushing his range.

I don't really mind the way this was played but if you're checking that flop through and you're still getting check-raised on that river, then that's not going to be a bluff nearly often enough to work. A bluff would lead, imo, which was the point of the turn check-through.

I think he could have bluffs as well as some 10x but I do think it makes more sense that he could lead these on the river. Fishier players tend not to bluff many rivers.

 

[or3o1990]

Finished Ed Miller's "The Course" yesterday. Cruised my bike down to the beach and wrapped that shit up like a burrito .Aside from the overuse of the phrase "x is beyond the scope of this book" I absolutely loved it! To be fair he was just being honest in saying it so many times. I'd definitely recommend it to all! Especially you Fig! You'd love it for the golf metaphors if nothing else lol.


I've got a slew of books coming my way. I shouldn't have to buy another for a long time! Plus I've got some to reread as well. Currently I'm reading Ryan Fee's "6max NL Strategy Guide". It's free online, I'll let you guys know what I think about it as I go through it. Looking forward to the sweat session today! Be there or be a nit bish