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What is the best strategy when entering the final table in a free satellite and micro since I always make mistakes when entering the table, he is very passive

freerolls and micros play very differently since the buyin isn't meaningful to the players. This means they won't fold much, so the adjustments you should make are to tighten all your ranges and in particular shove tighter preflop (you'll still get called) and lighter postflop (since people will call any pair draw or gutshot you can value shove anything ahead of that range).
 
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Freerolls and micros play very differently since the buyin isn't meaningful to the players. This means they won't fold much, so the adjustments you should make are to tighten all your ranges and in particular shove tighter preflop (you'll still get called) and lighter postflop (since people will call any pair draw or gutshot you can value shove anything ahead of that range).
Thank you very much for the answer, that is my usual strategy to play this type of tournaments, but my mistake is when I get to the final table where I tend to be very passive and I do not push too much the bets trying to reach the best prizes and I almost always finish between place 7 to 4 where the prizes are good but I point to the first two places that are always the best prizes to enter the big tournaments
 
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Me and my son just completed Dara's new PKO book and I am floored how little I knew about the format.

The limps with the big pairs, the strange hands people play, it all makes sense now.
This book is probably the fastest and most effective way to get up to speed and is well worth the money.

If you havent studied this format or at least read this book you are likely leaving money on the table somewhere in your PKO play.

I would like clarification on one thing my son may have misinterpreted as he turned an open ended straight flush draw multi way out of position. He was going to take the lead in the betting quoting the book to bet your draws.

I explained to him that it was implied that you do this as the aggressor but as the defender out of position in a multi way hand you would want to get there as cheaply as possible and then if you hit your draw to make sure you then got all your chips in the middle.

Can you confirm that this is in fact the case?

Also there were a couple minor typos early on in the book that I took note of and would like to relay them to you in return for your kindness in awarding me a copy if you like. Where would I send this to?

Thank you for your kind comments: delighted you and your son like the book.

You are thinking correctly about how to play draws. The advice we give is to bet your draws more, but this doesn't mean you should always bet them. It depends on a number of factors, like how many players are in the pot (the less there are the more aggressively you should bet), position, size of pot, how much fold equity you have, and how likely it is you can get a bounty if you hit your draw before you're all in.

A concrete example might help:
Imagine we are on the turn with a draw that has 25% equity
Opponent checks and we can either check or shove for pot. What's the better play?
Let's go further and assume that if we miss the river our opponent will never fold, and if we hit he will fold all the time. If we shove the turn we expect him to fold half the time.
With these assumptions, we can now work out the EV of checking versus shoving the turn.
If we check, our EV is 0.25pot (we will win 25% of the time so our EV is 25% current pot from the times we hit)). This EV costs us nothing (since we don't put more chips into the pot unless we hit) so it's +0.25pot in EV
If we shove, we win that immediate pot 50% of the time (so EV is 0.5pot), and we have the other player all in the other 50% of the time. 25% of the time this happens we win 3pot so the EV of this = 0.5*0.25*3pot which is 0.375pot. The EV of this play is therefore 0.875pot (0.5 plus 0.375) but it costs us a 1pot bet to make so it's -0.125pot overall

Therefore in this case we are better off checking by a margin of 0.375pot.

That's the case for a normal tournament. However, if this is a PKO things change. Leaving our assumptions the same, our EV of checking remains +0.25pot. But the EV of the shove changes, since we will now win a bounty when we shove, get called, and win. How big this is will depend on the size of the bounty relative to the amount of chips we are shoving. It could be minor (0.1pot), significant (0.5pot) or massive (1pot or more). If it's value is more than 0.375pot then now shoving becomes better.

Usually (but not always) the shove needs some fold equity to be better than the non shove, but if the bounty is a massive factor it could potentially be better to shove even if we know we are always getting called.

That's just one example: every situation is different so has to be assessed in game, but the general principle is that shoving when you cover other players is always more profitable in a PKO than in a normal tournament. This doesn't mean it's always the most profitable play though.

On the typs, if you could send them to my co-author Barry, that would be awesome.

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"1. What is our calling range here?Do we have a calling range here??
2. Do we have a call fold to rejam range?
3. What's our iso jam range?
4. What adjustments, changes I should make in these kind of satty spots from regular/bounty tournies?"


1. You can construct a calling range, or you cab just jam your entire range., the difference is relatively marginal. If you have a calling range it should be split between top of range (traps) and bottom with blockers (your worst Ax)
2. Yes. The worst Ax which is dominated by the rejam range a lot but has removal (so less likely to rin into it)
3. Hands too strong to call fold but we don't want to induce action with. Essentially the part of the range between top of range (traps) and bottom with blockers (your worst Ax)
4. t this point not much, just tighten ranges slightly
 
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Hi Dara,

I use Kobo so will your new PKO book be available in epub format please? If not, then any other electronic format that I can purchase directly (not kindle)? Thanks.


You're in luck, we just released on Kobo.
 
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Wooo, and how did you become a specialist, friend? Some tips for us newbies, obviously studying by dedicating time, but how, where did you start, studying game styles or types of hands or strategies or where to get an idea









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I put a lot of work in on ICM with solvers which is the biggest thing in satellites. The good news for you is you don't need to do that. You just have to buy read and absorb "Poker Satellite Strategy" :)
 
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Hello!) Tell us what goals inspire you to move forward?

I try not to set outcome goals like "win a bracelet" as that's mostly outside my control, but I just want to keep working as hard as I can, keep improving and hopefully keep making a living from this wonderful game.
 
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This hand happened a few months ago when I first fired the lappy back up and started playing consistently again since Black Friday.

This was also one of my first go-rounds in a PKO. It played out on pokerstars Pennsylvania. I had played regular KO tournaments in the past but this PKO was new to me at the time.
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This is in the $15 PROGRESSIVE KO PA SCOOP EVENT w/$25K gtd I wanna say. We're down to 80 or so ppl and I'm in ~20th.


I was just moved to this table, very first hand dealt so, 1) if I did have many hands on this guy the HUD wouldn't have been updated to this table yet, and 2) neither guy is noted so must not have noticed anything prior to this if I did have any hands on either of em.

The first thing I notice about opener is the pot-sized bet at these levels, which in my opinion is a BIG tell and MAJOR leak so I'm thinking he isn't all that good of a player, possibly ABI of ~$5 and hasn't had that much experience at $10s n above since he is still pot betting and hasn't learned about min raising for same info. I can see the BB shoving somewhat light since he is looking at trebling up plus some. For some reason I want to say UTG insta-ships but he can be doing that w/a lot of hands if my read on the pot bet open is correct.



PokerStars Hand #212106772896: Tournament #2648455515, $6.85+$6.80+$1.35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (5000/10000) - 2020/04/18 23:41:30 ET
Table '2648455515 3' 8-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: BCPuffer (336204 in chips, $18.70 bounty)
Seat 2: shawnbr198522 (413550 in chips, $46.75 bounty)
Seat 3: ruppea2 (191100 in chips, $6.80 bounty)
Seat 4: jimbob1101 (228390 in chips, $50.15 bounty)
Seat 5: MrChillibin (104940 in chips, $17 bounty)
Seat 6: willgp299 (152050 in chips, $52.27 bounty)
Seat 7: shotgun stan (472699 in chips, $37.40 bounty)
Seat 8: Cuse919 (133580 in chips, $65.02 bounty)
BCPuffer: posts the ante 1000
shawnbr198522: posts the ante 1000
ruppea2: posts the ante 1000
jimbob1101: posts the ante 1000
MrChillibin: posts the ante 1000
willgp299: posts the ante 1000
shotgun stan: posts the ante 1000
Cuse919: posts the ante 1000
MrChillibin: posts small blind 5000
willgp299: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BCPuffer [Kc Kd]
shotgun stan: raises 33000 to 43000
Cuse919: folds
BCPuffer: raises 56999 to 99999
shawnbr198522: folds
ruppea2: folds
jimbob1101: folds
MrChillibin: folds
willgp299: raises 51051 to 151050 and is all-in
shotgun stan: raises 320649 to 471699 and is all-in



Do we call here or can we find a fold to protect out stack. I know we play these tournaments to win them n not just make small amounts per tourney but can I ever muck here?
 
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Need Clarification on 3betting

The book points out how we want to keep our opponent in especially when we have a chance to win a bounty from the people left to act.
Yet there are at least 2 hands that I can think of that would benefit immensely to isolate AKo and AA.
I can understand min raising or limp raising these hands but when and where do we absolutely want to 3 bet these hands? Are there other hands we should include in our 3 betting range?
 
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Hello, Dara!

Just now play PS Bounty Builder $2.2 Sunday special.
Blinds 300/600, in play 1k+ players, money zone 500+

My stack 10k+ , SB, I had TT, open raise 3BB.

BB had 30k+, push, I call.

Villain had A2s, I double up.

Next hand I had KK on button, open raise 3BB again, SB (same villain as in previous hand) push again, I call again.

Villain had A4s and eliminated me by A on board.

Was the villain's play correct?
 
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This hand happened a few months ago when I first fired the lappy back up and started playing consistently again since Black Friday.

This was also one of my first go-rounds in a PKO. It played out on PokerStars Pennsylvania. I had played regular KO tournaments in the past but this PKO was new to me at the time.
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This is in the $15 PROGRESSIVE KO PA SCOOP EVENT w/$25K gtd I wanna say. We're down to 80 or so ppl and I'm in ~20th.


I was just moved to this table, very first hand dealt so, 1) if I did have many hands on this guy the HUD wouldn't have been updated to this table yet, and 2) neither guy is noted so must not have noticed anything prior to this if I did have any hands on either of em.

The first thing I notice about opener is the pot-sized bet at these levels, which in my opinion is a BIG tell and MAJOR leak so I'm thinking he isn't all that good of a player, possibly ABI of ~$5 and hasn't had that much experience at $10s n above since he is still pot betting and hasn't learned about min raising for same info. I can see the BB shoving somewhat light since he is looking at trebling up plus some. For some reason I want to say UTG insta-ships but he can be doing that w/a lot of hands if my read on the pot bet open is correct.



PokerStars Hand #212106772896: Tournament #2648455515, $6.85+$6.80+$1.35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIII (5000/10000) - 2020/04/18 23:41:30 ET
Table '2648455515 3' 8-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: BCPuffer (336204 in chips, $18.70 bounty)
Seat 2: shawnbr198522 (413550 in chips, $46.75 bounty)
Seat 3: ruppea2 (191100 in chips, $6.80 bounty)
Seat 4: jimbob1101 (228390 in chips, $50.15 bounty)
Seat 5: MrChillibin (104940 in chips, $17 bounty)
Seat 6: willgp299 (152050 in chips, $52.27 bounty)
Seat 7: shotgun stan (472699 in chips, $37.40 bounty)
Seat 8: Cuse919 (133580 in chips, $65.02 bounty)
BCPuffer: posts the ante 1000
shawnbr198522: posts the ante 1000
ruppea2: posts the ante 1000
jimbob1101: posts the ante 1000
MrChillibin: posts the ante 1000
willgp299: posts the ante 1000
shotgun stan: posts the ante 1000
Cuse919: posts the ante 1000
MrChillibin: posts small blind 5000
willgp299: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BCPuffer [Kc Kd]
shotgun stan: raises 33000 to 43000
Cuse919: folds
BCPuffer: raises 56999 to 99999
shawnbr198522: folds
ruppea2: folds
jimbob1101: folds
MrChillibin: folds
willgp299: raises 51051 to 151050 and is all-in
shotgun stan: raises 320649 to 471699 and is all-in



Do we call here or can we find a fold to protect out stack. I know we play these tournaments to win them n not just make small amounts per tourney but can I ever muck here?

I('m never folding kings in this spot in a regular MTT, let alone a PKO. If he's got aces, so be it: it can't be the only hand he can have
 
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The book points out how we want to keep our opponent in especially when we have a chance to win a bounty from the people left to act.
Yet there are at least 2 hands that I can think of that would benefit immensely to isolate AKo and AA.
I can understand min raising or limp raising these hands but when and where do we absolutely want to 3 bet these hands? Are there other hands we should include in our 3 betting range?

It's difficult to give general advice that holds in every situation because the best play is always situational and dependent on opponent tendencies. While AKo and AA benefit from isolation, there are a lot of situations where we might be better off threebetting them. Some of the factors to consider are:
(1) If we flat are we likely to induce a squeeze behind from worse hands? Or are we more likely to induce a chain of calls? (in the first case we should flat, while in the second we want to 3bet)
(2) How likely is the original opener to 4 bet?
(3) How wide is our flatting range in general in this spot? If we want to flat lots of small pairs, suited connectors and Axs then we also need to flat our very strong hands to protect this range

Thanks for the question!
 
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How much should we tighten down our CSI push ranges when we are the one shoving while playing PKOs? Should our calling ranges be loosened ot tightened in PKOs?
 
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Hi Cardschat,

I am Dara O’Kearney, known as Doke online. I am an Irish poker professional tournament player, with over $1 million in live earnings and more than $3 million in online MTTs, not to mention 8 PocketFives Triple Crowns.

I am perhaps best known for being a satellite specialist. I have won over $1 million in online satellites alone and have just written a new book on this subject called Poker Satellite Strategy:

Away from the tables I am the co-host of the Global Poker Award winning Chip Race Podcast and sponsored by Unibet Poker. Prior to poker I was an ultra marathon runner

Cardschat have kindly agreed to let me do an Ask Me Anything thread where you can ask me anything at all about satellites and tournament strategy. This will be on an ongoing basis, I’ll be checking in most weeks starting this one to answer your questions and to begin with I will be around tomorrow to answer the first batch.

Also this month I will give a free copy of my book on Apple iBooks to my favourite question, once a week for the next four weeks.

AMA


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Hi, my name is Adolfo, I'm Argentine and Pokerstars offers this frerooll the winner takes a ticket of 250 dollars, from the second to the 4th ticket of $ 109 and the rest of the prize places ticket of $ 11 all are for tournaments of that value. What strategy would you recommend for this mega satellite where the BB rise time is 5 minutes.]
 
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Hello, Dara!

Just now play PS Bounty Builder $2.2 Sunday special.
Blinds 300/600, in play 1k+ players, money zone 500+

My stack 10k+ , SB, I had TT, open raise 3BB.

BB had 30k+, push, I call.

Villain had A2s, I double up.

Next hand I had KK on button, open raise 3BB again, SB (same villain as in previous hand) push again, I call again.

Villain had A4s and eliminated me by A on board.

Was the villain's play correct?

His first shove for 17 bigs effective blind on blind, is fine.

His second for double that is definitely not. Ul
 
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How much should we tighten down our CSI push ranges when we are the one shoving while playing PKOs? Should our calling ranges be loosened ot tightened in PKOs?

We don't really tighten our ranges, we just change their shape to be more pair and high card heavy. If you are shoving in a normal tournaments with lots of fold equity, a hand like T9s may be a fine shove as it gets thru a lot and has equity when called, whereas a hand like K2 will be in worse shape when called. In a PKO however we should be called a lot wider because of the bounty. If you're getting called by lots of Qx Jx etc suddenly T9s isn't all that hot by K2o is much better.

Calling ranges should definitely be loosened. How much so depends on a concept called Bounty Factor we explain at length in the book.

Thanks for your questions!
 
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Hello Dara! Nice to see you here on CardsChat! Please tell me with which structure to play better turbo satellites or not? and how much does the tournament play differ from the satellite?
 
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Hi Cardschat,

I am Dara O’Kearney, known as Doke online. I am an Irish poker professional tournament player, with over $1 million in live earnings and more than $3 million in online MTTs, not to mention 8 PocketFives Triple Crowns.

I am perhaps best known for being a satellite specialist. I have won over $1 million in online satellites alone and have just written a new book on this subject called Poker Satellite Strategy:

Away from the tables I am the co-host of the Global Poker Award winning Chip Race Podcast and sponsored by Unibet Poker. Prior to poker I was an ultra marathon runner

Cardschat have kindly agreed to let me do an Ask Me Anything thread where you can ask me anything at all about satellites and tournament strategy. This will be on an ongoing basis, I’ll be checking in most weeks starting this one to answer your questions and to begin with I will be around tomorrow to answer the first batch.

Also this month I will give a free copy of my book on Apple iBooks to my favourite question, once a week for the next four weeks.

AMA


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Hi, my name is Adolfo, I'm Argentine and Pokerstars offers this frerooll the winner takes a ticket of 250 dollars, from the second to the 4th ticket of $ 109 and the rest of the prize places ticket of $ 11 all are for tournaments of that value. What strategy would you recommend for this mega satellite where the BB rise time is 5 minutes.]

Hi Adolfo,
This should play like a satellite specifically near the bubble and with 5-7 left so I'd play the strategy outlined in the book at those points. Otherwise it should play close enough to a normal tournament.

Thanks for your question and good luck!
 
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Dara,
As a very casual poker player who usually plays Cardschat freerolls, I found myself lucky enough to win a few satellite tickets, and wound up winning a ticket into the unibet Open in October. This will be by far the biggest tournament I have ever qualified for...(I did play in the wsop Colossus for Team Cardschat in 2019). I know that Max Silver won the last Unibet Open, so I assume there may be some poker professionals playing in this one. Any words of wisdom to navigate this new territory ?
 
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Hello Dara! Nice to see you here on CardsChat! Please tell me with which structure to play better turbo satellites or not? and how much does the tournament play differ from the satellite?


Assuming you know satellite strategy and have an edge, better structured satellites give you a better chance to realize that edge than turbos. Normal tournament play differs a lot from satellite strategy particularly in the end game: so much so I wrote a whole book about it :)

Thanks for the welcome and the question!
 
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Satellite bundle

While I'm here, I've just bundled all my existing satellite content (theory and hand history videos, and the book) into one package available on Gumroad

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Dara,
As a very casual poker player who usually plays Cardschat freerolls, I found myself lucky enough to win a few satellite tickets, and wound up winning a ticket into the Unibet Open in October. This will be by far the biggest tournament I have ever qualified for...(I did play in the WSOP Colossus for Team Cardschat in 2019). I know that Max Silver won the last Unibet Open, so I assume there may be some poker professionals playing in this one. Any words of wisdom to navigate this new territory ?

Congratulations! Yeah, the field will certainly have a few pros in it. My advice in these spots is always twofold: don't alter your game radically, and if you do make adjustments play tighter. I see a lot of players who start double guessing every spot and thinking the pros are always bluffing. Most importantly though, have fun no matter what happens :)
 
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Hi Dara. Do you think at some point, launch your book Poker Satellite Strategy, translated into Spanish? I have looked for it everywhere but I have not found it.
 
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