Would you play at FT if it reopened?

[fletchdad]

Yep. I would. I would want my $1000+ back, but would love to play there again for most of the reasons mentioned and as long as conditions already mentioned were met ( Oz and Dorkus come to mind here).

If it was FT as we knew it (minus the thieving incompetent management) I am SO THERE.....

BUT I will believe it when I see it..............

Yea, no cake no bastard....... What is the world coming to.................

 

[vanquish]

i'd prob play 25% of my volume there and 75% on stars

 

[pcgnome]

I would only play free rolls to start off , and I never make any deposits.

 

[tcummo]

I would deffo play at fulltilt, there software is far superior
to ANY other site that I can find.
Plus I loved the FT academy.
FT was my 'poker home'.
since the shutdown I have only had a
'half-hearted' approach to online poker,
mainly because other sites software that I have tried is crap.
Also I don't deposit on a site till I want to withdraw.
So far, I have withdrawn £310 ($483)
from 2 sites (betfred and cdpoker).
Not a lot I know, but I'm only a freeroll/micro/fun player.
I still have $237 + a step 3 ticket on FT and since
this has cost me nothing , I would play there in an instant.
I was hoping to keep building my BR there to move up thru' the limits.
If it re-opens I will be there 'like a shot'.

BTW, I voted 'YES'

 

[ludo90]

fulltilt till death <3

 

[SavagePenguin]

I'm a U.S. player.

If I was paid back, and they were run by a new company (who kept player account separate) I'd play.

Of course, this also assumes that they somehow got licensed to operate in the United States.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

i'd prob play 25% of my volume there and 75% on stars

hai vanq! <3

what were these percentages pre-black friday?

 

[dj11]

I'd play my existing BR there, but it would take a very long time to convince me to deposit there.

 

[fletchdad]

I'd play my existing BR there, but it would take a very long time to convince me to deposit there.

i would be SO FKN HAPPY to play may existing BR there.....

 

[MrPokerVerse]

Like others here, would play but would be very hesitant to deposit. They would have to come out of the gate with something different or at least some good public relations to mend the bridge. Not sure I would really trust the "brand name" like I had before.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

I don't understand the logic of "I'd play but I wouldn't deposit", unless you mean you'd just play freerolls/play money.

I mean if account balances are honoured, the money in your account would be your money just as much as any money you would deposit. I can understand people saying they would play, I can understand people saying they wouldn't play but the in-between people confuse me, which is why I didn't even consider putting an equivalent option in the poll.

 

[vanquish]

hai vanq! <3

what were these percentages pre-black friday?

sup chris!


pre-bf, 90% FT, 10% stars

 

[KoRnholio]

I would. If they gave me rakeback. And I am pretty sure if/when they reopen they will be doing all they can to retain old clients, namely through bonuses and rakeback accounts, so I voted yes.

 

[orangepeeleo]

I answered yes, but I'm assuming a fair few things in that answer, including:

- The stuff Dorkus mentioned above
- Guarantee that funds were being properly segregated / protected
- That there's actually decent traffic on the site
- That they maintain the Ironman / rakeback / loyalty programs, or transition us to an equivalent and equally rewarding system
- That the software will be essentially unchanged / equally good

I voted yes based on this.

Was a solid site on the surface, IM and RB was better for me than the stars rewards program, as long as the shady management was gone and funds were as safe as they were anywhere else then i'd go back np

 

[alaskabill]

I was always a stars player but if FT opened under COMPLETELY NEW management and I lived in a world where a US citizen could play where I wanted, than I wouldn't object to Tilt.

The management is what was wrong with the old company. Put in new owners and management and you have a new company. I don't see why you would punish an essentially new site for the sins of the previous owners.

Its kind of like, would you drive a car that had been owned by a bank robber. Sure, the bank robbers previous ownership doesn't change the quality of the car.

 

[Debi]

I don't understand the logic of "I'd play but I wouldn't deposit", unless you mean you'd just play freerolls/play money.

I mean if account balances are honoured, the money in your account would be your money just as much as any money you would deposit. I can understand people saying they would play, I can understand people saying they wouldn't play but the in-between people confuse me, which is why I didn't even consider putting an equivalent option in the poll.

Well you should have included an in between option cause that is where some of us are. I never liked Full Tilt as my primary site anyway - so wouldn't be rushing there to play. But if CC hosted games there again - and there is no reason we would not - then I probably would. Otherwise I would not play there cause if we could play then PS would be available too.

But - I chose yes because I don't fall into the category of haters who would never touch the site again. Under new management all of that is moot to me.

 

[MrPokerVerse]

I don't understand the logic of "I'd play but I wouldn't deposit", unless you mean you'd just play freerolls/play money.

I mean if account balances are honoured, the money in your account would be your money just as much as any money you would deposit. I can understand people saying they would play, I can understand people saying they wouldn't play but the in-between people confuse me, which is why I didn't even consider putting an equivalent option in the poll.

It goes back to the fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. There are funds there now that can't be played or withdrawn. If those somehow came available to play then I would play with the current state of quality places to play or lack of.
You will not find to many Americans willing to deposit to any site right now. With what has happened and the question you ask who would run back waving money in their hand?

If had to deposit to play with already having funds that are there but unavailable then no thank you. Don't care how good the software is. If we are allowed to play in the same manner we were prior to Black Friday I'd play. If for some reason I had to redeposit, that would take a lot more than it did in the past.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

MrPokerVerse, okay, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying.

Debi, you're basically saying "yes" anyway. For the sake of the poll I don't really care whether "yes" means "yes I'd play there just as much as I did pre-BF" or "yes but I'd only play half as much/only play CC events/etc". Giving an in-between option would just make the poll less interesting imo!

That said, time for some hypothetical follow-up questions! Would the licensing of FTP have any effect on your decision? Would you be any less likely to play there or play less if FT renewed their license with the AGCC than if they obtained a license from elsewhere? What about if Lederer et al were to retain a (small) stake in the company?

 

[LarkMarlow]

With new owners I would participate in CC events there but that is all. I always way preferred PS to FT and given a choice would always play at PS primarily.

Me too, word for word.

 

[dwbrown7680]

I always loved FTP and it was my primary place to play so I'd do so if it reopened (to US players obv). The guy buying it is no shmuck and will do his due dilligence in making sure things are on the up and up. He doesn't venture into things blindly and has saved/turned around many companies.

Based on his rep alone I'd feel safe enough to start playing there again.

 

[OzExorcist]

That said, time for some hypothetical follow-up questions! Would the licensing of FTP have any effect on your decision? Would you be any less likely to play there or play less if FT renewed their license with the AGCC than if they obtained a license from elsewhere? What about if Lederer et al were to retain a (small) stake in the company?

Now that you mention it, I think I'd definitely feel better if they went Isle of Man rather than AGCC, given their proven reputation in a crisis with Stars... but as long as Full Tilt went the fully segregated funds option with the AGCC I'd be OK. The AGCC strikes me as the kind of organisation that wants to keep its reputation intact, and I'd be very surprised if they let something like this happen again. I expect (maybe unrealistically, IDK) oversight will be stronger in the future.

I'd be wary if Full Tilt went back to the KGC though - that'd definitely be a warning sign.

As for Lederer / Bitar et al retaining a stake in the company, yuck, that's not a pleasant thought. I really, really can't see them being allowed to do that, but if it did happen then I'd definitely play less and maybe not at all. I'd hate the feeling that even a small percentage of my rake money was going into their pockets.

 

[onemorechance]

If it was 100% guaranteed that none of the old ownership was involved then I'd probably play there again.

 

[LuckyChippy]

You forgot "lol" and "If funds we're segregated in future"

I assume you assumed that in future we'd have that promise so I think then I would have no problems playing there.
I still voted no tho because in the past it was only the offer of rakeback that had me there and now I'm at PS I prefer it, in truth I always have. There will always be that element of mistrust tho and that's combined with the complete knowledge that PS will never **** me over, they've proved it. PS has always been the best and that's why I'll play there from now on.

I wouldn't avoid it I guess.

 

[F4STFORW4RD]

You forgot "lol" and "If funds we're segregated in future"

I assume you assumed that in future we'd have that promise so I think then I would have no problems playing there.

Posts 3 and 16 covered it fairly comprehensively?

 

[thejuanupsman]

In a heartbeat. Seems unlikely that I will ever get to but I would love to play there again. If they came back I'd probably stop playing at all the other sites I play at now and play there exclusively again.