CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
Hi 888,
I'm posting this here as I'd like to solicit input from my fellow Cardschat members who may have opinions, tweaks, or to counter my points.
After joining 888 roughly a year ago, I can say that I've been impressed at your ability to fix issues through your customer support. You have some mighty fine folks there that deserve recognition.
I will say the software overall is good, not great. I won't go near the bot comments made by other members as I think this is an issue overall in the industry, but I will comment that I feel the play on 888 can feel odd at times.
Your promotions department should be overhauled, if not completely rebuilt which is the purpose of my comment today.
I have noticed that your promotions team is in love with the notion of these tickets for freerolls with fairly large prize pools. Currently, Jackpot land offers 4 daily $3000 freerolls, and a weekly $5000 freeroll.
Most of these freerolls in this and other promotions are extremelly top heavy, and are hyper-turbo in their structure design. Even worse than a Blast tournament.
You even offer a lottery freeroll with the luck branding - putting 9 players all in at the same time.
With these promotions I often accumulate a number of tickets that never get used because the registration window is only an hour and at times that tend to favour Europeans. Currently I have 14 for the $3000 daily tournaments, and one for the Jumbo on Sundays. The promotion is wasted on me, and even if I used all the tickets, I'd bet I might cash a few of the skill tournaments for 30 cents each - because i'll sit out the entire tournament.
I would much rather see 888 adopt a completely different model that would benefit the site, offer smaller awards than the advertised top prize of $100,000 (Which by the way - we never hear who wins these top prizes making me suspect that it never is) but more of them to spread the wealth, and to give opportunities for players to get into tournaments.
Let me paint this picture: Jackpotland has a $12,000 daily prize pool, a $5000 weekly pool, and the top 500 players get a bonus spin where 2/3 of those that spin get that $5000 jumbo ticket, with only a small percentage winning cash.
If you expand the math, and assume that 224000 players win a bonus spin ticket (500 per tournament, 4 daily, 7 days a week, 4 weeks), then using your odds the expected payout is $268,000 on the bonus wheel, and over the 4 weeks you'll hold $356,000 in daily tournaments, your promotion budget for Jackpotland is roughly $624,000.
Rather then having these silly freeroll tournaments, wouldn't it make more sense to have players complete tasks / challenges similar to what you did for the Strike The Chip promotion that lasted one week, or (my fav) the treasure chests last January? This would create the opportunity for players to win, say a $30 Blast, or a $88 entry into The Great 8 tournament as the top prize, rather than a $100,000 jackpot that I'll bet never hits. This way you're also generating rake to offset the prize pool, either making it bigger, or offsetting the cost by having us win a hand with 88, or something to that affect.
To offer a prize on a promotion that is only reachable for one, if that, doesn't create excitement.
Bring back promotions like the treasure chests and do away with these crazy hyper ticketed freerolls and the wheels that don't pay out.
I'm posting this here as I'd like to solicit input from my fellow Cardschat members who may have opinions, tweaks, or to counter my points.
After joining 888 roughly a year ago, I can say that I've been impressed at your ability to fix issues through your customer support. You have some mighty fine folks there that deserve recognition.
I will say the software overall is good, not great. I won't go near the bot comments made by other members as I think this is an issue overall in the industry, but I will comment that I feel the play on 888 can feel odd at times.
Your promotions department should be overhauled, if not completely rebuilt which is the purpose of my comment today.
I have noticed that your promotions team is in love with the notion of these tickets for freerolls with fairly large prize pools. Currently, Jackpot land offers 4 daily $3000 freerolls, and a weekly $5000 freeroll.
Most of these freerolls in this and other promotions are extremelly top heavy, and are hyper-turbo in their structure design. Even worse than a Blast tournament.
You even offer a lottery freeroll with the luck branding - putting 9 players all in at the same time.
With these promotions I often accumulate a number of tickets that never get used because the registration window is only an hour and at times that tend to favour Europeans. Currently I have 14 for the $3000 daily tournaments, and one for the Jumbo on Sundays. The promotion is wasted on me, and even if I used all the tickets, I'd bet I might cash a few of the skill tournaments for 30 cents each - because i'll sit out the entire tournament.
I would much rather see 888 adopt a completely different model that would benefit the site, offer smaller awards than the advertised top prize of $100,000 (Which by the way - we never hear who wins these top prizes making me suspect that it never is) but more of them to spread the wealth, and to give opportunities for players to get into tournaments.
Let me paint this picture: Jackpotland has a $12,000 daily prize pool, a $5000 weekly pool, and the top 500 players get a bonus spin where 2/3 of those that spin get that $5000 jumbo ticket, with only a small percentage winning cash.
If you expand the math, and assume that 224000 players win a bonus spin ticket (500 per tournament, 4 daily, 7 days a week, 4 weeks), then using your odds the expected payout is $268,000 on the bonus wheel, and over the 4 weeks you'll hold $356,000 in daily tournaments, your promotion budget for Jackpotland is roughly $624,000.
Rather then having these silly freeroll tournaments, wouldn't it make more sense to have players complete tasks / challenges similar to what you did for the Strike The Chip promotion that lasted one week, or (my fav) the treasure chests last January? This would create the opportunity for players to win, say a $30 Blast, or a $88 entry into The Great 8 tournament as the top prize, rather than a $100,000 jackpot that I'll bet never hits. This way you're also generating rake to offset the prize pool, either making it bigger, or offsetting the cost by having us win a hand with 88, or something to that affect.
To offer a prize on a promotion that is only reachable for one, if that, doesn't create excitement.
Bring back promotions like the treasure chests and do away with these crazy hyper ticketed freerolls and the wheels that don't pay out.
Brandlad
Visionary
Silver Level
hey what u win in the jackpotland spins?:top:
Since the inception of the promo I have won only 4 times $3000 tickets as I am spinning the wheel twice a day. This time 888 wheel is a failure as it is declining all the odds.
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
If I could give you some of my 14 tickets I would...
Brandlad
Visionary
Silver Level
Thanks for ur generosity. Did you get all the tickets via free spin?
wlad20082009
Legend
Loyaler
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
Yes... Generally when I spin I get a $3000 ticket every time. This promotion I haven't lost yet....
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
The link was directly on the 888 website, you'll need to access via your phone and you should be able to get there.
888 also supports play via a browser too
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888Rep
Official 888 Poker Rep
Silver Level
Hello everyone, BIG news in November!
Team888's Dominik Nitsche bagged his best cash ever in the WSOPE High Roller One Drop.
Also in the WSOPE, Spain's Marti Roca turned a €250 satellite buy-in on 888poker into a massive win in Main Event for €1,115,207!
And, then there's the 2017 WSOP POY controversy...
Let us know what you think, click here for July’s Poker Brief.
Team888's Dominik Nitsche bagged his best cash ever in the WSOPE High Roller One Drop.
Also in the WSOPE, Spain's Marti Roca turned a €250 satellite buy-in on 888poker into a massive win in Main Event for €1,115,207!
And, then there's the 2017 WSOP POY controversy...
Let us know what you think, click here for July’s Poker Brief.
CRStals
Moderator
Moderator
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BluffYou123
Back in the Game
Silver Level
I agree with this. All that $ could be distributed in far better ways. Keep some of the hyper tournaments but have some actual skill games with 5 minute blinds at least so the better players will have an interest in getting involved in these promotions. You will benefit from this as you will generate more rake and will have the opportunity for the site to grow.
The treasure map was a great promotion, would like to see it return.Prizes like $20 cash for completing rows and a chance at $50 or $100 for completing the whole map was also a great idea. (I don't remember the exact values of the prizes)
I disagree about the jackpot though. I think this is a great idea but I think at least 1 winner should be guaranteed for each promotional period and you should announce winners in a pop up in the poker client.
taktloss47
Rising Star
Bronze Level
taktloss47
Rising Star
Bronze Level
taktloss47
Rising Star
Bronze Level
yeah play the auto allin jackpotlands freeroll too
i know the name skill is crazy but its a freeroll, but after +20mins. when u in u have min cash$$ :bike:
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spaceslave
Rising Star
Bronze Level
is 88 poker legit
Is 88 poker legit and legal cause it has not requested most of the information that other sites have and doesnt show to charge me tax like pokerstars does since i live in Greece.
Is 88 poker legit and legal cause it has not requested most of the information that other sites have and doesnt show to charge me tax like pokerstars does since i live in Greece.
Brandlad
Visionary
Silver Level
My 888 mobile app is crashing after few seconds of use and it is happening since last 8-10 days. I did not complaint about it to the support as I know there will be no help from 888 side...
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vic75
Legend
Silver Level
I have the same problem with mobile it was fine a week ago now I can't see the cards 888 needs to rework the app.
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888Rep
Official 888 Poker Rep
Silver Level
Hello everyone,
From January 18-28, the XL Blizzard will play out on 888poker, and it’s slated to be one of our best online series yet.
From must-play events such as the $80,000 Opening Event, $50,000 Crazy 8, $250,000 High Roller, and $1,000,000 Main Event, to brand new promotions, this is one online festival you’re not going to want to miss.
For more information click here.
For the series’ official page click here.
From January 18-28, the XL Blizzard will play out on 888poker, and it’s slated to be one of our best online series yet.
From must-play events such as the $80,000 Opening Event, $50,000 Crazy 8, $250,000 High Roller, and $1,000,000 Main Event, to brand new promotions, this is one online festival you’re not going to want to miss.
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888Rep
Official 888 Poker Rep
Silver Level
Welcome to 888poker’s Weekly Deal, with all the best news, results and insights from the past week.
THIS WEEK: December 10, 2017
“abmarin” Bests Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi in Mega Deep
The $215 buy-in, $80K GTD Mega Deep drew 328 players who rebought 97 times. That created an $85,000 prize pool paid out to the top 48 places including “Dr.Rash” (20th - $824.50), “RSAA12345” (12th - $1,487.50), “mario73m” (5th - $4,482.50), and “SpitOnGraves” (3rd - $9,137.50).
After 11 hours and 47 minutes, Russia’s “abmarin” defeated two-time XL Eclipse champ Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi in heads-up play to win $16,362.50. Romanovskyi, who is in the midst of a charity drive, earned $12,112.50 for his runner-up finish.
“abmarin” is a familiar face on 888poker. Back in September, he finished runner-up in the XL Eclipse Event #170: $50,000 Octopus for $11,191, and that same day placed third in the XL Eclipse Event #169: $15,000 Breeze for $1,695.
Greece’s “sunkenluck” Prevails in GREAT 8
This week’s $88 buy-in Sunday GREAT 8 featured a $25K GTD prize pool, which it surpassed by attracting 321 players who rebought 133 times. That created a $36,320 prize pool distributed to the top 48 players including “ALuckyGuy” (19th - $352.30), “YoureMagical” (12th - $635.60), and Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi (7th - $998.80).
After 9 hours and 8 minutes, Greece’s “sunkenluck” bested Germany’s “Palau121113” in heads-up play to win $6,991.60.
Mini Mega Deep Ends in Three-Way Deal
Meanwhile in the $22 buy-in, $30K GTD Mini Mega Deep, 1,140 players rebuying 465 times helped surpass the guarantee by creating a $32,100 prize pool. That was paid out to the top 144 players including “TomBrady17” (20th - $134.82), “taran93” (10th - $304.95), and “FlushJeZus” (4th - $2,279.10).
After just over 10 hours, three players struck a deal during three handed play. Eventually Brazil’s “DeckMcFly” finished in third place for $3,997.62, while “Hoab14” got second for $4,449.28, which was actually the most money. In the end, “Fullhousebob” got the title and $4,290.38 in prize money.
Back in September, “Fullhousebob” topped a field of 565 players to win the XL Eclipse Event #46: $20,000 Monsoon for $5,339. That followed two win from back in April in which he won the $7,000 GTD Turbo R&A for $1,234 and the $15,000 Sunday Swordfish for $2,921.
UK’s “aandy48” Takes Down Sunday Challenge
The $109 buy-in, $50K GTD Sunday Challenge drew 374 players who rebought 151 times. That created a $52,500 prize pool paid out to the top 48 players including “Nikas3274” (18th - $509.25), “tenis90” (7th - $1,443.75), and “dmg34” (5th - $2,756.75), just to name a few.
After 9 hours and 31 minutes, the UK’s “aandy48” defeated Canada’s “DosPoochies” in heads-up play to walk away with the $10,106.25 first-place prize. It marked the second time “DosPoochies” came close to winning a title this year. Back in September, he finished runner-up in the XL Eclipse Event #76: $15,000 Tornado for $2,687.
As for “aandy48,” it was far from his first win. Earlier this year, he won two $10,000 Tornado titles for $3,887 and $4,200 respectively.
Russia’s “badlucktou” Wins Mega Dozen
The $12 buy-in, $20K GTD Mega Dozen saw 1,428 players take to the virtual felt and rebuy 514 times. That helped create a $21,167.80 prize pool that was paid out to the top 162 players. Among those to earn a piece of it were “Carslaw67” (20th - $84.67), “kidoc101” (9th - $228.61), and “DoctorKrem” (4th - $1,439.41).
A heads-up deal was struck in which “eX1tus1” received $3,186.28 and Russia’s “badlucktou” $3,059.02. The duo played it out and after 9 hours and 30 minutes in the tournament, the latter prevailed to claim the title.
Back in May, “badlucktou” topped a field of 1,018 players to win the XL Inferno Event #14: $20,000 Mini Turbo Mega Deep for $4,831.
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THIS WEEK: December 10, 2017
“abmarin” Bests Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi in Mega Deep
The $215 buy-in, $80K GTD Mega Deep drew 328 players who rebought 97 times. That created an $85,000 prize pool paid out to the top 48 places including “Dr.Rash” (20th - $824.50), “RSAA12345” (12th - $1,487.50), “mario73m” (5th - $4,482.50), and “SpitOnGraves” (3rd - $9,137.50).
After 11 hours and 47 minutes, Russia’s “abmarin” defeated two-time XL Eclipse champ Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi in heads-up play to win $16,362.50. Romanovskyi, who is in the midst of a charity drive, earned $12,112.50 for his runner-up finish.
“abmarin” is a familiar face on 888poker. Back in September, he finished runner-up in the XL Eclipse Event #170: $50,000 Octopus for $11,191, and that same day placed third in the XL Eclipse Event #169: $15,000 Breeze for $1,695.
Greece’s “sunkenluck” Prevails in GREAT 8
This week’s $88 buy-in Sunday GREAT 8 featured a $25K GTD prize pool, which it surpassed by attracting 321 players who rebought 133 times. That created a $36,320 prize pool distributed to the top 48 players including “ALuckyGuy” (19th - $352.30), “YoureMagical” (12th - $635.60), and Roman “Romeopro33” Romanovskyi (7th - $998.80).
After 9 hours and 8 minutes, Greece’s “sunkenluck” bested Germany’s “Palau121113” in heads-up play to win $6,991.60.
Mini Mega Deep Ends in Three-Way Deal
Meanwhile in the $22 buy-in, $30K GTD Mini Mega Deep, 1,140 players rebuying 465 times helped surpass the guarantee by creating a $32,100 prize pool. That was paid out to the top 144 players including “TomBrady17” (20th - $134.82), “taran93” (10th - $304.95), and “FlushJeZus” (4th - $2,279.10).
After just over 10 hours, three players struck a deal during three handed play. Eventually Brazil’s “DeckMcFly” finished in third place for $3,997.62, while “Hoab14” got second for $4,449.28, which was actually the most money. In the end, “Fullhousebob” got the title and $4,290.38 in prize money.
Back in September, “Fullhousebob” topped a field of 565 players to win the XL Eclipse Event #46: $20,000 Monsoon for $5,339. That followed two win from back in April in which he won the $7,000 GTD Turbo R&A for $1,234 and the $15,000 Sunday Swordfish for $2,921.
UK’s “aandy48” Takes Down Sunday Challenge
The $109 buy-in, $50K GTD Sunday Challenge drew 374 players who rebought 151 times. That created a $52,500 prize pool paid out to the top 48 players including “Nikas3274” (18th - $509.25), “tenis90” (7th - $1,443.75), and “dmg34” (5th - $2,756.75), just to name a few.
After 9 hours and 31 minutes, the UK’s “aandy48” defeated Canada’s “DosPoochies” in heads-up play to walk away with the $10,106.25 first-place prize. It marked the second time “DosPoochies” came close to winning a title this year. Back in September, he finished runner-up in the XL Eclipse Event #76: $15,000 Tornado for $2,687.
As for “aandy48,” it was far from his first win. Earlier this year, he won two $10,000 Tornado titles for $3,887 and $4,200 respectively.
Russia’s “badlucktou” Wins Mega Dozen
The $12 buy-in, $20K GTD Mega Dozen saw 1,428 players take to the virtual felt and rebuy 514 times. That helped create a $21,167.80 prize pool that was paid out to the top 162 players. Among those to earn a piece of it were “Carslaw67” (20th - $84.67), “kidoc101” (9th - $228.61), and “DoctorKrem” (4th - $1,439.41).
A heads-up deal was struck in which “eX1tus1” received $3,186.28 and Russia’s “badlucktou” $3,059.02. The duo played it out and after 9 hours and 30 minutes in the tournament, the latter prevailed to claim the title.
Back in May, “badlucktou” topped a field of 1,018 players to win the XL Inferno Event #14: $20,000 Mini Turbo Mega Deep for $4,831.
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