After all, who believes that most poker sites are rigged?

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Personally, I haven't seen anything like this yet... Can someone share it? ) Insinuations are kind of annoying...))
 
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Personally, I haven't seen anything like this yet... Can someone share it? ) Insinuations are kind of annoying...))
come to me and I will tell you
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Of course the official terms alegate that there is no manipulation of the cards dealt in online poker room tables. It actually says that (and this is only for the big poker sites) the dealing cards system is "as random as possible". Wait, is it totally random or not?
Folks, legal or not, I do believe our real experience more than "legal terms and conditions" drawn by the company lawyers. We are talking about multi milionare companies that has every resource available to circumvent the borders of legal burocarcy. Even though there is regulation, it doesn't mean they have no way of rigging and profiting by it in their softwares.
"They would loose all their players if it was rigged". No, because the players are dumb and the company too smart. "There are small poker sites that we have to worry about, but big ones like GG or PS would never do that". Really? Does that make any sense at all? Small companies get caught because they don't have the legal resources to back them up. As more money a company possess, more we have to worry, cause basically they can do whatever they want. You can say whatever you want, call me conspiratory, but in a capitalist system, this is a reality.
What grounds can we have to at least justify this allegations, if they say is not rigged? Math. Well, we are students of chance, probability, and I'm telling ya, with frequency I've seen with my own eyes some turnouts that math would disagree with.
But the insteresting thing would be to hear some software engineers, programmers, people that actually know how it is to manipulate, to PROGRAM this kind of system. Oh, the big letters are to make sure we're talking about something that can be pre-set, previously defined, architected, programmed. We are talking about something that is more than possible to be rigged within legal boundaries.
Tell us your opinion.
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Good morning, player. When I started playing, I also had this impression that the outcome of the cards was being manipulated. I started playing Poker in 2018, I mean, and today, after playing so much, reading about the subject, and seeing professional players talking about it, I can say with certainty that the site is not interested in manipulating the outcome of the cards, it doesn't matter who wins the hand. If poker sites were to manipulate any game, they would manipulate casino games. The sites' biggest profits are from casino games, they earn millions of dollars a day in casino games. The profit that the site makes from poker games is very small compared to the profit that the site makes in relation to the casino. So it doesn't make sense for the site to manipulate Poker games. Even because on the site, for example, you sign up for a tournament for $109, $100 goes to the prize pool and $9 is the rake fee that the site takes for it. So the site has already received its money, it makes no sense for the site to manipulate the game for one player to win. Why would it favor one player and harm another player? What does the site gain from this? Nothing. But there is money involved there, but it is very little money, what the site earns in Poker is very small. So you can rest assured that there is no manipulation of the results of the cards in the deck.
 
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Good morning, player. When I started playing, I also had this impression that the outcome of the cards was being manipulated. I started playing Poker in 2018, I mean, and today, after playing so much, reading about the subject, and seeing professional players talking about it, I can say with certainty that the site is not interested in manipulating the outcome of the cards, it doesn't matter who wins the hand. If Poker sites were to manipulate any game, they would manipulate casino games. The sites' biggest profits are from casino games, they earn millions of dollars a day in casino games. The profit that the site makes from Poker games is very small compared to the profit that the site makes in relation to the casino. So it doesn't make sense for the site to manipulate Poker games. Even because on the site, for example, you sign up for a tournament for $109, $100 goes to the prize pool and $9 is the rake fee that the site takes for it. So the site has already received its money, it makes no sense for the site to manipulate the game for one player to win. Why would it favor one player and harm another player? What does the site gain from this? Nothing. But there is money involved there, but it is very little money, what the site earns in Poker is very small. So you can rest assured that there is no manipulation of the results of the cards in the deck.
you said it in simple words but how do you know or you never doubted in all these years playing poker
 
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Of course the official terms alegate that there is no manipulation of the cards dealt in online poker room tables. It actually says that (and this is only for the big poker sites) the dealing cards system is "as random as possible". Wait, is it totally random or not?
Folks, legal or not, I do believe our real experience more than "legal terms and conditions" drawn by the company lawyers. We are talking about multi milionare companies that has every resource available to circumvent the borders of legal burocarcy. Even though there is regulation, it doesn't mean they have no way of rigging and profiting by it in their softwares.
"They would loose all their players if it was rigged". No, because the players are dumb and the company too smart. "There are small poker sites that we have to worry about, but big ones like GG or PS would never do that". Really? Does that make any sense at all? Small companies get caught because they don't have the legal resources to back them up. As more money a company possess, more we have to worry, cause basically they can do whatever they want. You can say whatever you want, call me conspiratory, but in a capitalist system, this is a reality.
What grounds can we have to at least justify this allegations, if they say is not rigged? Math. Well, we are students of chance, probability, and I'm telling ya, with frequency I've seen with my own eyes some turnouts that math would disagree with.
But the insteresting thing would be to hear some software engineers, programmers, people that actually know how it is to manipulate, to PROGRAM this kind of system. Oh, the big letters are to make sure we're talking about something that can be pre-set, previously defined, architected, programmed. We are talking about something that is more than possible to be rigged within legal boundaries.
Tell us your opinion.
TY
A meaningless set of phrases, I don’t see a single logical argument.
 
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