'Black Friday' and associated fallout megathread

[dmorris68]

Hmmm. I have a sizeable BR on a Merge site, I know they're not yet implicated but I'd prefer to act now rather than regret it later. Their 24/7 chat is understandably offline right now. I have withdrawal options and could get a check, but I'd be worried that if they even got it out (realizing they're probably swamped with w/d requests) there's no guarantee it would clear if their processer gets caught up in all this.

I have a UseMyWallet account that I setup at FT awhile ago but never used. Hated their fees. But I can w/d "instantly" to it from Merge, and since it's an overseas processor (AFAIK) I'm thinking my funds will be safer there than sitting in a poker site. The one rub is that when I went to start the withdrawal, I got a warning that in-progress bonuses will be lost. I'm still clearing a 200% deposit bonus and although it's not a substantial amount compared to the whole BR, I questioned whether I might be jumping the gun a bit. Thoughts?

 

[JOEBOB69]

i think ill be fine as canadian but im glad i got all my 200k off UB anyway

i got like $700 online right now lol all else in sitting my cdn bank account.

Brag imo

 

[Maid Marian]

The US is trying to seize the funds to pay off our National Debt??? J/K...glad I'm broke on Stars now!

 

[TylerN]

**** the FBI, I'm a British citizen. I know you're probably reading this thread so **** you **** you and DIAGF, you can't touch me.

QFT

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Hmmm. I have a sizeable BR on a Merge site, I know they're not yet implicated but I'd prefer to act now rather than regret it later. Their 24/7 chat is understandably offline right now. I have withdrawal options and could get a check, but I'd be worried that if they even got it out (realizing they're probably swamped with w/d requests) there's no guarantee it would clear if their processer gets caught up in all this.

I have a UseMyWallet account that I setup at FT awhile ago but never used. Hated their fees. But I can w/d "instantly" to it from Merge, and since it's an overseas processor (AFAIK) I'm thinking my funds will be safer there than sitting in a poker site. The one rub is that when I went to start the withdrawal, I got a warning that in-progress bonuses will be lost. I'm still clearing a 200% deposit bonus and although it's not a substantial amount compared to the whole BR, I questioned whether I might be jumping the gun a bit. Thoughts?

It's entirely possible that this is a case of 'go after the big guns to make everyone else conclude it's not worth it to stay in the US market', so the cautious route is likely best.

 

[volc90]

wow

 

[RamdeeBen]

At least CC is getting more members.

 

[xdeucesx]

ya well we have 120 so..suck it 2+2

 

[onemorechance]

Hmm I assume this is this most traffic CC has ever had too?

 

[volc90]

Soooo, where should i deposit a new BR? Anyone care to join me?

 

[dmorris68]

It's entirely possible that this is a case of 'go after the big guns to make everyone else conclude it's not worth it to stay in the US market', so the cautious route is likely best.

Agreed. I've submitted the request to move the funds to UMW, if I only lose the remaining bonus I can consider myself fortunate. Now it's pending approval. Thankfully I had preemptively sent in my scanned verification documents and received an all-clear from security that I was good to go for withdrawals and transfers. I just hope they're not in such a tizzy atm that they don't get around to processing mine before it gets quashed...

 

[XXXDIRTYDOGXXX]

Any one pulled there money yet

 

[Monoxide]

yes 2+2 is really slow... super annoying i can barely read it...keeps timing out hooray

 

[katymaty]

They cannot take money off us UK players. Online poker here is totally legal.

I know its legal, but if the Sites get closed for Fraud, laundering or whatever then its a different matter. I got stung before when Jungle Poker closed

 

[vanquish]

fwiw: all the people saying "lol america" etc., a lot of my canadian friends have not been able to withdraw their funds via any method (including moneybookers, which generally works instantly, as well as check, bank wire etc), and online poker is legal and tax-free in canada


i don't think anyone's $ is completely safe at this point

 

[slimez]

This cannot be happening. I just started to rebuild my BR. I was able to play this morning, took my wife to work came back and now cannot play anymore. Playing live isnt an option since I live at least 3-5 hrs away from the closest live game.

 

[TrentsMomm]

 

[Monoxide]

fwiw: all the people saying "lol america" etc., a lot of my canadian friends have not been able to withdraw their funds via any method (including moneybookers, which generally works instantly, as well as check, bank wire etc), and online poker is legal and tax-free in canada


i don't think anyone's $ is completely safe at this point

i agree

thats why im so happy i have basically no roll online it feels so shady ATM if i was in the US id be so paranoid i mean... not being able to sit at real money tables would cause me to go lifetilt

i still dont even understand how they can have such control over teh internets the whole thing seems so ****ed to me but i guess it all just stems back to the gov't wanting their piece

 

[seanDCFC]

I know its legal, but if the Sites get closed for Fraud, laundering or whatever then its a different matter. I got stung before when Jungle Poker closed

I play on Stars and I know I will have no problem. Stars are located on the Isle of man where they are freely allowed to operate. They cannot touch us in the UK.

 

[ythelongface]

I really hope this gets sorted out, but if not, I am fortunate enough to live near a few casinos with one more coming downtown next year. However I am lazy and I do like sitting home and playing at my leisure.

 

[Kenzie 96]

Exclusive CC article: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/poker-sites-seized-fbi-196134/

Thanks for the info Nick, glad to see that neither Vanquish nor Marginal were behind this

 

[xdeucesx]

Thanks for the info Nick, glad to see that neither Vanquish nor Marginal were behind this

we dont know that for sure....

 

[RamdeeBen]

I play on Stars and I know I will have no problem. Stars are located on the Isle of man where they are freely allowed to operate. They cannot touch us in the UK.

lol.

Why you acting like they can't touch us? You're right they can't touch us the FBI. They have no reason too.

The thing is, if a COMPANY has been dabbling in illegal transfers and money laundering then it doesn't matter where it's located. The directors are U.S Citizens(I think?), so they answer the the US government. If the FBI seizes and stops processing of all bank accounts on PS it really doesn't matter we are British as every bit of money on PS is processed the same way so every last cent that's been processed VIA PS including ALL deposits will be classed as fraudulent activity on PS part, therefore they have the right to confiscate ALL funds or least hold them for now pending investigation.

The US government can make pritty much make anything happen even in other countries so I wouldn't really get to confident. Just sit back and relax but don't be surprised if you cant withdraw money considering they have already locked all payment processes from PS, I'm guessing withdrawals anywhere aren't going to happen.

 

[Colbefc]

I play on Stars and I am from the UK and I don't know that I have no problem, if all Stars assets get frozen we would all have a problem
I'm confused, I want to play poker but at the moment I just havent got the heart, just feel like the roof has collapsed on my favourite pastime, its sick

 

[Brave_n_Crazy]

Well, if there's an upside at all, I just visited the website for our local poker room and found out there's a 25$ weekly tournament and they offer 1/2 limit with a reasonable buy-in ... I thought I'd need a grand just to walk in the door! Still don't want to play live, but I gotta have my "fix" somewhow