Do you trust online poker?

[scissaro24]

The algorithms many poker sites seem to use are not completely random. There are some times I fold to a player becuase I think the sites algorithm is favoring them at that time (even when I have a decent hand). This is just speculation so I give this little overall weight in calculating my decisions, but I still give this some consideration when making a decision to fold, bet, etc -- if I see a player defy odds time and time again against other players then there appears to be some basis to suggest they will defy the odds against me as well.

the worst bad beats or impossible to fold hands usually come in when the numbers are close to the money, this is when you get aces kings queens all coming out at the same time to get the numbers down quick

 

[Artbart805]

No... its too sketchy

 

[Datdude1]

online poker is a different animal than live poker. I hope that Online poker is trustworthy because I like to play as often as I can and if I thought that it was rigged I would stop.

 

[Ice Wolf]

I hope some are more trustworthy than others because WPN's NG is absolutely atrocious. Like someone said earlier in the thread the 80% and 90% hands on the turns there lose way to often to the terrible players who constantly get fed on one bad call after another. It has come to be expected there. Then again it could just be something with their terrible software designers who can't get the chat right not being able to figure out basic odds to get the NG right either. Then again they could be setting that up for rake generation.

 

[CullinanPoker]

Until it is regulated and legalized in the USA I trust none of these sites for cashing out, learned the hard way...

 

[beatlebug]

I see a pattern that whenever you go all in it seems the others win the hand. I think the best thing is to just go easy on your bets so that you don't end up going all in and losing in the end.

Beatlebug

 

[Luvepoker]

Do I trust online Poker? Yes I do. Is the RNG perfect? Probably not but is it close enough? I think it is. Many people have thoughts and theory on why it is but they are never able to prove it. This is not meant to be a knock on them but it does take a lot of hands to get to the point and to be able to show it.

 

[screamingmidget]

I'm 100% certain that Zynga can't be trusted.

I know quite a lot of players who say when they joined they were given some 'over-friendly' flops until they'd achieved a very good balance, only to then for everything to turn for 100s of hands.

Their theory was that the game wanted them to pay real $$$ to get chips.

I've been doing pretty well in real cash games, but wanted to move over to something like Zynga temp, as I wasn't as bothered about losing then.

Just as I was told, I was given very very kind flops - very much kinder than you'd expect in the real game.

I've also done a bit of a test, folding drawing hands - folding brings the flop way way way more than had you called.

It's rigged, but understandably rigged - why would they leave it to chance when there's money to be made?

 

[bakang]

I play at a site we'll call "cheat on line" They're an offshore, scam of a company, who could never make up for all their criminal deals with variance, imo.
Is there a poker site that lists their weekly "Went To Showdown" statistics? All they would have to do is post the card match up, how many times it went to showdown, and which hand won.

 

[Miguelpaniura0893]

At 100% I do not trust, they give more priority to the players who enter the most money in the game, They give better cards and more chances of winning so that they do not get discouraged and continue betting money, The players who invest half or little is difficult at the cash tables, in tournaments it's a bit the same but at least everyone starts with the same chips and the same odds of winning or losing, that depends but I'm not 100% confident I prefer a thousand times to play live than online.

 

[bakang]

i wish some of the power brokers (like this platform) would encourage the sites they promote to publish the stats each week. It's sad, because it's hard to have enthusiasm for the game when the site (cheat on Line) continually rewards the worse starting hand, yet they offer free rolls to sucker you in.

 

[abgvedr]

It can certainly feel at times that the software is out to get you when opponents chase with marginal hands and hit on the river, etc. We've all been there. But I think this feeling comes more from thinking you "deserve" to win the hand because you had AA and you can't believe that your stupid opponent would even play 32o, and not being disciplined enough to fold your AA.

When people say that online poker is rigged, they never define "rigged." Do they mean rigged against them personally (this is silly), or rigged for the site to maximize rake? If it is rigged in any way, it has to be the latter. However, if it is "rigged" to maximize rake, think about what this means. I love Magic612's videos too, especially the one titled "Brokeback Mountain." I've never laughed so hard in my life. But let's look more critically at the two theories he always repeats in his videos.

In cash games, that the software is set up to coordinate the board to players' hole cards to keep as many players in the hand as possible (chasing down to the river) in order to cap the rake. Even if this is true, it has to mean that it is rigged against all players equally, which is the same as saying it's NOT rigged at all.

Or in tournaments, if the software is set up to knock certain players out at certain times, both to speed up the conclusion of the tourney and to make players re-enter or buy in to other tourneys (again maximizing rake for the site). Even if this is true, in the long run this would happen to all players with equal frequency. Anyway, people find it hard to accept the fact that you will bust in most tourneys you play no matter how good you are.

Ultimately, the decisions still come down to you, and you have to accept full responsibility for the decisions you make at the tables. The software is not forcing you to stay in a hand, nor is it stopping you from folding your big hand on an unfavorable board when you know you're beat. If you watch Magic's videos carefully, you'll see all the big hands he folds when he senses he'll lose or when opponents are being super aggressive. If your gut tells you should fold or you have the feeling that a hand will end up badly for you, just fold your hand and wait for a better spot. You can still beat the game if you're disciplined enough, which most people aren't (I include myself here).

This is top notch comment right there.
Also, i think poker rooms make good enough money from rake to not bother with rigging the game.

 

[bruno1234poker]

I have to trust, if I don't believe there is no reason to play.

 

[deputat777]

I'm thinking about online poker, I'm not going in a round where I'm 2/3 in hand, here comes the card and it appears 3-3-2 and you wonder why I did not play this part? enters for you AA, you bet and think that you will win, your opponent goes with 7/8 and fafaz 2 pairs and wins from you. and so, should I rely on poke online.

Online poker is completely random. There is a license, so why not trust.

 

[mervin88]

only playing on reputable online poker sites that are referred by reputable online poker forum like CardsChat

 

[dima08191]

The more expensive the entrance to the tournament, the less strange it is

 

[kanycta99]

There are licenses for a random number generator. If there is discipline and steadiness to the tilt, then it is not so terrible. But if you're very worried about losing, then maybe it's better not to play online poker.

 

[Jim_Saras]

I trust it enough to invest money that I don't mind losing.

 

[Stifler]

I’m trust online poker

if you analyze what has already happened, then you can beat AA with 2 and 7 on your hands

 

[luckyhenri]

Sometimes I become really suspicious in cash tables, sometimes it feels like there is one player playing with multiple accounts and basically counting cards to make it's odds better. There has been also few cases few person has gone all in with really low cards 36, 57o and won with a flush like the player knew the outcome of the flop. So can you trust the online casino itself? Yes, can you trust all the players? No, I think so.

 

[Skripka Dmitriy]

I do not trust 100%, yesterday I folded 2,3 offsuit to the touch, and they immediately appeared on the flop, how to understand this, because the deal is from one deck.

 

[1988810]

Confirmation bias I think

 

[wonima]

Yhey don't need to cheat, they earn enough with the antes

 

[scissaro24]

I hope some are more trustworthy than others because WPN's NG is absolutely atrocious. Like someone said earlier in the thread the 80% and 90% hands on the turns there lose way to often to the terrible players who constantly get fed on one bad call after another. It has come to be expected there. Then again it could just be something with their terrible software designers who can't get the chat right not being able to figure out basic odds to get the NG right either. Then again they could be setting that up for rake generation.

perfect situatuion tonight with pokerstars, played for several hours, in the money and to reduce the numbers twice had ace king suited called the all ins and both times came up against aces. this happened within 5 hands of each other. i get aces puts in a big raise 5 players call and one goes all in, we all play and match the pot, my aces get beat by the one who raised to all in with 2 and 4 of diamonds, now played all evening with many bad beats and bad calls but managed to stay in till last 20 and my aces gets beat by 2 and 4 diamonds, why would he go all in with these cards he wasnt governed as he was the one who called the all in, he could have easily folded the earlier raise but he decided to go all in with 2,4, now again this to me seams a little bit fishy but there you go, has he got a cheat built in where he can see what cards are coming out on certain big pots but why play for over 2 hours make the money and decide to raise all in with 2,4 unless he knows something we dont???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[DaaBee]

I can't say something is rigged, just think random number generators are far from perfect (intentionally or not). And not only against me but also in my favor. I feel like both my and opponents hands with 70+% equity preflop, on flop or 85%+ on turn lose way too often eventually.

Thats true , up and downs of poker
However 888 have been very fishy since the update a couple of weeks ago...

I played a Canadian yesterday and every hand he won, 19 hands in a row!!!! A real Donk 2s7d, nothing ever connecting and still wins every hand..... Maybe its just the random number gen?

I would post the replays but 888 crashes when your look at your history