Day 13 Power Poker: When to Shove Pre-Flop
Need to do 10-12, did 14.
Tidbits
Less than 15bb effective stack (with an ante)
Less than 10bb effective stack (without an ante)
effective stack??
Over a Single Raise
Less than 25bb effective stack (with an ante)
Less than 20bb effective stack (without an ante)
And other spots: Theres 25% or more of the effective stack in the pot
The first review question with the AQs, ugh, I just can't play this way. I could never play this way. You start the hand with 2502, UTG+1 raises so they probably have something, only 240 to call taking you down to 2250 if by chance its heads up with plenty more looks and having to go thru a lot less folks to steal later on in the next orbits. AQ is a drawing hand. This idea especially makes zero sense to me if I know i can out play these people at the table. The BB is shoving if they have anything so you're going to face at least that one and villain already said they have something raising UTG+1.
The A8 example, beside the math of simply stealing the blinds, lol, there must be some preflop chart or supercomputer spitting out something saying to do this especially if you're in something that has long blind levels. I just could never go all in with A8o with that much chips behind compared to the blinds, that's a trash hand. Throwing my tourn life on trash to take that down isn't the way for me. I gotta let this stuff go for the professional players, lol. It's too advanced for me. I'll take my chances playing with a lot less than tossing it in with trash when I have to. Especially as you go deeper and deeper in a tourn where the antes make up so much then 1 or 2 double ups and you're back in it.
With the ATo example, I'm not concerned with the 2 limpers they're dead money but the 3 left to act that are short stacked are an issue. You have them covered so you could mix it up but that 1700 stack is a concern. You're the chip leader and if I can steal from them and not risk the chip lead then I would go that route. Less exposure, you don't risk the chip lead and if you lose that hand then someone at the table has you covered.
The AJ example depends on what that raiser has been playing like. Again too much poker to play.
The 5s example, I would probably fold it. But I wouldn't mind seeing a flop with that. If you call the raise you have to be comfortable losing the 3200 if the the BB shoves and the Button calls. If the BB shoves and the But folds then we call and hope its a coin flip rather being crushed with an over pair. If you call, the BB shoves and the But calls then I'd fold to see if villain257 can get booted and we gain their tourn equity. And you can't call a shove for 14580 because if you lose then you'll be crippled if 257 wins or even if 129 wins the pot, either way you lose calling a shove from 257. Out of position and only with 5s is going to be hard to play unless you know the But plays certain big cards and none are on the flop.
What you're looking for is what is the BBs response in this example. If the But wins gets rid of the BB then we're in good shape still since they'd have 90k and we'd have 40k and we're 2 hands from winning the tourn while we collect villain257's tourn equity. The worst thing is going all in here and bust while villan257 laughs and collects my tourn equity being short stacked.
Liked the lesson, I may disagree with the philosophy but its good to try to understand what opponents are thinking. It got me thinking about the hands which is way better than just watching the vid and saying "ok, great, next vid", lol. So another good lesson and something to think about and perhaps one day, someday I can incorporate these plays into my game. But I definitely got something out of the lesson.
