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Beast post. Covered everything and I learned a lot (newbie player).
Very good explanation.:):)
 
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Many hard to understand as much information you need to learn how to play poker gradually
 
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Really nice of you to give us, begginners, some hints and tips, I will try to follow your instructions and will focus on play/study single tables, lately I'm have a really hard time, hope it works, thanks bro!
 
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FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, STOP PLAYING MTTs!

Here's the bit where I'm going to contradict myself.

If I were to tell you I'd just made $10 from a freeroll and I was going to take it straight to a PLO cash game table to start trying to build a roll from it, how many people would think I was mad?

I think it might be more than a few. A select few of them will have prior knowledge of how much I suck at PLO. But others, even without that knowledge, would likely point out that the variance in PLO can be a killer and I'd be better off playing something with a more stable return. They'd probably be right too.

But here's the thing - a lot of those same people probably wouldn't bat an eyelid if I said I was going to take that $10 and play the Daily Dollar or something with it. Which is a funny thing, because as far as variance goes things don't really get much more swingy than multi-table tournaments. You certainly want a lot more than 20-30 buy ins to be rolled for them.

As discussed above, we already need to get very lucky to build a roll from nothing. We don't need to compound our problems by stacking variance against us - instead, we need to concentrate on games that offer us at least some chance of grinding a slow but steady path upwards. That usually means ring games or single-table SnGs and I'm recommending that, at least for the initial stages, you steer clear of MTTs and the horrible swings they bring. Even if you think they're your best game.

http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/PokerStars/players/3bettosaurus

I'm solely a MTT grinder. I play very few sng's and cash games, usually when I don't have time for a MTT.

Regarding the "choose a game and stick to it" I found out that MTT's are way easier for me then any other game format, so I'm not sure if I agree with this part of your post. You just need A LOT of practice and lots of games played, pay more attention to your opponents' play style then you would normally do in cash/sng's and be weary of ICM. Almost all guides tell you to go aggressive on bubble/pay jumps and abuse them, as you're playing for first place, but tightening up and getting a little bit shorter until you hit the payjump worked way better for me so far.

I've been playing pretty casually until ~15th of September when I started taking it seriously. The climb I posted began with a 10$ deposit, and as I said earlier, it's solely MTT's.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding MTT's and micro bankroll managing, in spite of what OzExorcist posted :D
 
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http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/PokerStars/players/3bettosaurus

I'm solely a MTT grinder. I play very few sng's and cash games, usually when I don't have time for a MTT.

Regarding the "choose a game and stick to it" I found out that MTT's are way easier for me then any other game format, so I'm not sure if I agree with this part of your post. You just need A LOT of practice and lots of games played, pay more attention to your opponents' play style then you would normally do in cash/sng's and be weary of ICM. Almost all guides tell you to go aggressive on bubble/pay jumps and abuse them, as you're playing for first place, but tightening up and getting a little bit shorter until you hit the payjump worked way better for me so far.

I've been playing pretty casually until ~15th of September when I started taking it seriously. The climb I posted began with a 10$ deposit, and as I said earlier, it's solely MTT's.

Feel free to ask me any questions regarding MTT's and micro bankroll managing, in spite of what OzExorcist posted :D

The point he's making is that even if you play perfectly and get your money in ahead every time it is still very likely that you won't even cash. You need to get very lucky to build a small bankroll solely from MTTs so STTs are a much safer bet.
 
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Regarding the "choose a game and stick to it" I found out that MTT's are way easier for me then any other game format, so I'm not sure if I agree with this part of your post. You just need A LOT of practice and lots of games played, pay more attention to your opponents' play style then you would normally do in cash/sng's and be weary of ICM. Almost all guides tell you to go aggressive on bubble/pay jumps and abuse them, as you're playing for first place, but tightening up and getting a little bit shorter until you hit the payjump worked way better for me so far.

I've been playing pretty casually until ~15th of September when I started taking it seriously. The climb I posted began with a 10$ deposit, and as I said earlier, it's solely MTT's.

I'm not even going to get into the ICM stuff, and I'm not saying it's impossible to build a bankroll from playing MTTs. But you're obviously one of the ones that got very lucky in the beginning.

Even the best MTT players in the world would stand a high chance of going busto if they only had 5 or 10 buyins to work with.
 
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Playing poker from scratch is really hard. as OzExorcist said: "Even the best MTT players in the world would stand a high chance of going busto if they only had 5 or 10 buyins to work with." Unless you only have 5 cents to play micro steps tournys you most drop out ego and hone your skills from the very bottom until you can crack the game and start making the right decisitions. A good run can always be confused with luck and when variance hits it hits really nasty hard.
 
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Really nice of you to give us, begginners, some hints and tips, I will try to follow your instructions and will focus on play/study single tables, lately I'm have a really hard time, hope it works, thanks bro!

That day I had a $2 bankroll, now I have $8, I'm playing only sit and go 9 players turbo and I am begginning to get used to it, I am becoming more aware of how my opponnents on this kind of tournament play and it's getting a very profitable activity, as you can see in my sharkscope I am beggining to grow my bankroll, hope it lasts very long without downswings, I am still learning of course, not a pro.
 
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Interesting article, and, above all everything logically and simply. As there will be money on the account, it is necessary to try, I did just everything as it is described, played different games and has lost everything. Thanks to the author!!!!
 
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What is a proper strategy, starting from $50 bankroll. I like the SNG's and STT, What would be a proper bankroll management in this case.
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I have managed to build a couple of BRs on a few sites without depositing. My current FT roll was started from winning freerolls and using that money to play STTs until I moved to cash and started to actually make money lol.

Helped out a lot by the take 2 bonus, which was so easy to get, I think it was probably one that was exempt from Oz's rules. But all in all I pretty much followed the same guidelines, got a bit lucky and it worked a treat. My roll is currently 200-300 depending on whether I decide to play good or not.

Great guide Oz anyone in a similar situation should read this daily :).
Max, is there a particular STT strategie you utilize?
 
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good post. I always have trouble building a bankroll of my own
 
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should i start at pokerstars with the 30$ bonus? how can i start? Cashgame 0,8$ 0,01/0,02$?
 
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greaat post but what about when the game set u to fall you are nuts and going turn and river and make u to be shit...
what about that
 
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good info, I am definitely going to start sticking to only one game type, that right there may be my problem. I tend to get bored and hop around alot.
 
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I struggle to enjoy really microstake tourneys, would rather just do more free rolls until I can do $2 or more buy in.
 
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I've been just sticking with that same game every night and Im starting to master it..
 
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to build a bankroll with mtt i play a lot of satellites, is slower but safer to your bankroll and allows you practice a lot more this kind of events. For example i won a dollar in a freeroll at 888poker, i can: have 1 shot in a 1$ mtt or sng, 10 buy-ins with 10cts steps 2 satellites or a 100 buy ins with a 1ct satellite or sng. if you have a good win rate of 55% on mtt o sng you can "proyect" your bankroll while playing those step 1 and 2 satellites and have a 1$ buy in for your desired tournament without getting busted on first hand and having to build from zero your bankroll again.
 
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What is a proper strategy, starting from $50 bankroll. I like the SNG's and STT, What would be a proper bankroll management in this case.
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Hi to all

In my expirience KO tournaments are a very good way to boost a bankroll.
Start with small buyins and work your way up.

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What sites did you build a bankroll without deposits?

Most of the sites have freerooll tournaments, I play on pokerstars and there you have pokerschool. Just for joining a school you get some tickets for freerolls so chek it out it is a great way to start...
 
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Great stuff,,ty oz:cool:
 
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Excelente articulo, en mi opinión, la disciplina es elemental. Como jugador no debemos meternos ningún tipo de presión, de igual manera ser muy constantes y saber definitivamente cuando nos debemos tomar una pausa. Evitar el Tilt, para mi eso si destroza la banca de cualquier principiante.

Excellent article, in my opinion, discipline is elementary. As a player we should not get into any kind of pressure, likewise be very consistent and know definitively when we should take a break. Avoid Tilt, for me that shatters the bank of any beginner.





Esto podría ayudar a algunos de los miembros menos linguales del sitio.
https://translate.google.com/
 
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Bet few and discipline.

In my recent experience I lost a lot of bonus not real money. So that tell me how are doing my game
 
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