Official Absolute scandal thread

[Bombjack]

Steven Levitt posts about the issue in his NY Times blog: The Absolute Cheating Scandal Blown Wide Open

 

[xtreme_calibur]

after viewing the youtube video by dorkus malorkus, i am officially a believer in this AP scandal sh*t. especially after seeing the "part 2" of this series. potripper has JJ preflop in bb no raise and 1 caller has A/Q. potripper checks and flop is 942. guy with A/Q checks and potripper instantly checks. turn is a Q and guy with A/Q bets a measly 400 and potripper auto-folds! no preflop raise and no bet with JJ on a 9 hi rainbow board, then auto fold JJ to a 1bb bet of 400 on turn with Q. he fckn knew he was beat! i am completely horrified.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

crazymarco (the runner up in the donkament potripper won) e-mailed Absolute Poker to request a hand history for the tourney because he was suspicious of potripper's play.

AP for some reason (it's speculation at present whether it was just incompetence or the work of a whistleblower) sent him a huge excel file with everyone's holecards, e-mails, and IPs displayed. It took a lot of reorganising the HH to get it into a comprehendable format.

The vid is the hand history played in the PXF hand replayer. It's not fully compatible with AP HHs yet, and there may be the odd error in the restructuring of the HH, hence sometimes the hands are a little screwy.

I posted the HH in text a couple of pages ago, if you want to look at that.

Where is this from? How does whoever put this together know ALL the hole cards, including those who fold to the alledged cheater? Also if this is correct I did see one mistake, he raised PF with 84 with a JJ, QQ, and AK at the table. If he could see those cards, that was a very stupid play.

Also, some of the action is out of order, calls are taking place out of turn, which I don't believe is possible in online poker.

 

[Emperor IX]

Just so you know, his check on the flop wasn't because he knew a Q was coming. I don't know if you thought that or not. He was just hoping the guy would bluff the turn, but since it hit him, he obv. had to fold. I don't want anyone to misconstrue this as something as the cards being rigged, so no offense if you already knew that x.

 

[Emperor IX]

Where is this from? How does whoever put this together know ALL the hole cards, including those who fold to the alledged cheater?

Someone requested HH from Absolute support, and they accidentally sent him the master copy with all the hole cards, he then ran it through whatever hand simulator and voila.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Just so you know, his check on the flop wasn't because he knew a Q was coming.

Yeah, let's be straight on this, the RNG hasn't been cracked or anything like that, it's 'just' (lol) a 'seeing other people's holecards issue.

 

[xtreme_calibur]

oh yeah im totally aware of that, but he only bet 400 and it was an instant fold, it was just obvious as hell. Again, Im horrified and might never play poker via internet again!

 

[stealthy1]

Absolute mentalism! I would really like to hear more from the people who rubbished this story when it first came to light.

 

[Bombjack]

Latest bombshell:

meanwhile, more breaking news, from sources at Absolute Poker that will remain nameless:

The Potripper account belongs to AJ Green, former Director of Operations at AP and Scott Tom's best friend. AJ Green is currently VP of operations at nine.com.

Scott Tom is former CEO of Absolute Poker who is apparently no longer working for them. However he was found to be one of the observers on POTRIPPER's table and is hence currently the main suspect.

He apparently also has a part-ownership in Ultimate Bet.

 

[Egon Towst]

I think we should all cash out of Absolute Poker and uninstall it, if they are not prepared to deal with this more effectively.

A poker site that can`t be trusted isn`t worth my time, or yours.

It`s not my main site, but I have a few hundred dollars there, which would probably be better employed elsewhere.

Edit: and having seen BJs post above, maybe I`ll cash out of Ultimate too. Same situation, I have a few hundred there.

 

[x_Tac_x]

Thanks for the tip.

I'll never play on this sight. Thanks again for the warning.

 

[HartAttack3]

wow I must say I was not ready for that bombshell bombjack, very nice detective work, +rep if it was still here.

This could become a lot bigger than any of us have thought

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

There's more. Courtesy of thepokerdb...

...... lol.

 

[vanquish]

<3 that ROI

 

[Emperor IX]

oh yeah im totally aware of that, but he only bet 400 and it was an instant fold, it was just obvious as hell. Again, Im horrified and might never play poker via internet again!

Figured you had caught it, I just wanted to make sure that everyone else has too.

 

[Effexor]

Here's a video of the beginning of the MTT:

Enjoy !

YouTube - Absolute Poker Superuser "POTRIPPER" Cheating (Part 1 of 4)

 

[Effexor]

Part 2:

YouTube - Absolute Poker Superuser "POTRIPPER" Cheating (Part 2 of 4)


Part 3:

YouTube - Absolute Poker Superuser "POTRIPPER" Cheating (Part 3 of 4)

 

[Effexor]

This explains the latest findings:

N 82 50 24’s Blog :: The AP situation

 

[Bombjack]

ZOMG Dorkus! Must be cheating, but why's this guy playing $3 and $6 tourneys??

EDIT: Read up a bit more on these, and it may not be as bad as it looks. Apparently this DB only shows cashes, and a lot of these are satellites where all the winners are displayed as 1st place. Probably a red herring.

 

[Acesover8s]

Are there rules saying employees of the company can not play??

If not then why not!!

There should def be a legal case to answer for AP here (but companies trade in places like costa rica for a reason, YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH MORE)

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Latest cliff notes.

...and yeah, Bombjack is right about the last pic.

 

[pigpen02]

after viewing the youtube video by dorkus malorkus, i am officially a believer in this Absolute Poker scandal sh*t. especially after seeing the "part 2" of this series. potripper has JJ preflop in bb no raise and 1 caller has A/Q. potripper checks and flop is 942. guy with A/Q checks and potripper instantly checks. turn is a Q and guy with A/Q bets a measly 400 and potripper auto-folds! no preflop raise and no bet with JJ on a 9 hi rainbow board, then auto fold JJ to a 1bb bet of 400 on turn with Q. he fckn knew he was beat! i am completely horrified.

You have to remember that these are from a simulator and are not the actual tournament. Speed and auto- buttons are not real life. Be advised, I am not saying anything is on the up-and-up, just remember SIMULATION.

 

[ravingred]

Im not playing on that site anymore !!!!

 

[DaFrench1]

Latest bombshell:

Scott Tom is former CEO of Absolute Poker who is apparently no longer working for them. However he was found to be one of the observers on POTRIPPER's table and is hence currently the main suspect.

He apparently also has a part-ownership in Ultimate Bet.

You don't say, Imagine my surprise. (but what about all the millions per second they make off rake?! lol)

Love the title though, "Director of Operations". Sexy!

 

[GivPeace]

I have heard this whole scam has been linked to a former Vice President of the Co. and this same person has high connections in other online casino's I heard his name around but I cant remember it, I would like to know how far he is involved and what other casinos he is involved with.