****Astronomical August Spider Chat Thread****

[Debi]

you talking about that webbased master card ?

it is extremely awesome, paid all my mods and DC subscriptions with it

You forgot to pay this mod.

 

[eNTy]

You forgot to pay this mod.

Funny, that's what TB said yesterday too..

Anyway just fixed my cardmod so I finally got it back (much joy) by using this

 

[Jurn8]

I likes those cards enty and why you flatting 44 in SB to a steal?
I was informed it was bad.

 

[vanquish]

I likes those cards enty and why you flatting 44 in SB to a steal?
I was informed it was bad.

do u fold it or 3bet it
?

 

[kleitches]

do u fold it or 3bet it
?

I'm not Jake but it's mostly a fold unless his ATS is pretty high. Even then I'm probably folding.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

you talking about that webbased master card ?

it is extremely awesome, paid all my mods and DC subscriptions with it

No, you can have an actual physical bank card that is linked to your neteller account but that you can use in any ATM or any shop, both live and online.

 

[Jurn8]

do u fold it or 3bet it
?

depends vanq if they are stealing wide I will 3bet it if they dont usually a fold rarely call below 66 there. Like my UTG range, I made a video a while back and I think zach and feitr both said it was a leak to flat them here to 3bet or fold.

how do you play them?

 

[Deltafrost]

I hate being from the US....sigh

Euro's get netteller, other options where to play, etc.

that is all

 

[eNTy]

No, you can have an actual physical bank card that is linked to your neteller account but that you can use in any ATM or any shop, both live and online.

Yeah, didn't like that it had a permanent fee even if u never use it, and I do very rarely, I think the fee has been removed but even then I don't really need one.

Oh and the cards are FTP Maria deck from tiltbuster

 

[vanquish]

depends vanq if they are stealing wide I will 3bet it if they dont usually a fold rarely call below 66 there. Like my UTG range, I made a video a while back and I think zach and feitr both said it was a leak to flat them here to 3bet or fold.

how do you play them?

i usually 3bet stuff like 44 and Kxs and then call with bigger pairs like 99 and suited connectors such as T9s

 

[switch0723]

you really flat suited connectors to steal opens? 3betting them is way cooler, i also rarely 3bet TT-QQ oop to a steal, i believe there is so much more value in flatting and playing postflop even oop becasue your hand is instantly underrepped. This is purely for my style though where i would struggle to get action if i 3bet qq with my hudge 2.5%3bet

 

[vanquish]

you really flat suited connectors to steal opens? 3betting them is way cooler, i also rarely 3bet TT-QQ oop to a steal, i believe there is so much more value in flatting and playing postflop even oop becasue your hand is instantly underrepped. This is purely for my style though where i would struggle to get action if i 3bet qq with my hudge 2.5%3bet

i like to 3bet Kxs and call more with like 65s because i like to have bigger flush draws than the other guy

 

[switch0723]

yay money arrived from neteller account, people should remind me not to spend everything i own so i have £5 left in my bank account for several days waiting for monies to go in

I'm not sure how you can check, but have you ever looked through HEM to see if you are in profit flatting suited connectors like that?

 

[vanquish]

yay money arrived from neteller account, people should remind me not to spend everything i own so i have £5 left in my bank account for several days waiting for monies to go in

I'm not sure how you can check, but have you ever looked through HEM to see if you are in profit flatting suited connectors like that?

my HEM is broken

but im not saying that i'm flatting a lot of suited connectors to steals
i'm saying that i'm much more likely to 3bet Kxs rather than a suited connector.

depending on steal % and table dynamics, i'm capable of flatting a bunch of different hands and certainly 3betting a lot of hands like 44, some SC's, some random weird stuff, etc

not making a blanket statement by any means

 

[switch0723]

oh then ye ok, i agree with you then, since people dont like 3betting hands like KTs or K9 suited coz 'they are easily dominated' blah blah, but have a cool thing called equity against 3bet calling hands just as long as you dont spew postflop

 

[SuperDonk]

my HEM is broken

but im not saying that i'm flatting a lot of suited connectors to steals
i'm saying that i'm much more likely to 3bet Kxs rather than a suited connector.

depending on steal % and table dynamics, i'm capable of flatting a bunch of different hands and certainly 3betting a lot of hands like 44, some SC's, some random weird stuff, etc

not making a blanket statement by any means

oh then ye ok, i agree with you then, since people dont like 3betting hands like KTs or K9 suited coz 'they are easily dominated' blah blah, but have a cool thing called equity against 3bet calling hands just as long as you dont spew postflop

Is there a glossary of common abbreviations on cardschat? It is impossible for a noob to understand a thing you guys are sayin'.

 

[Debi]

Is there a glossary of common abbreviations on cardschat? It is impossible for a noob to understand a thing you guys are sayin'.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/learning-poker-57/commonly-used-poker-abbreviations-terms-80492/

 

[switch0723]

sigh at this because it means ill have to single table for even longer hmph

party poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BB: $113.55 (113.6 bb)
UTG+2: $158.60 (158.6 bb)
MP1: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
MP2: $236.09 (236.1 bb)
MP3: $128.85 (128.9 bb)
CO: $59.06 (59.1 bb)
BTN: $170.10 (170.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $106.85 (106.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A

A

UTG+2 raises to $3.50, 5 folds, Hero raises to $13, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $9.50

Flop: ($27) J

J

Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+2 raises to $30, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($87) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $87, Hero calls $63.85 and is all-in

River: ($214.70) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $214.70 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A

A

(two pairs, Aces and Jacks) and lost (-$106.85 net)
UTG+2 showed J

3

(three of a kind, Jacks) and won $211.70 ($104.85 net)

would prefer it if he left after this so i could stop

 

[switch0723]

lol how on earth am i ever ahead, cried quite a bit on the river

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $113.65 (113.7 bb)
UTG+2: $332.95 (333 bb)
MP1: $99 (99 bb)
MP2: $99.05 (99.1 bb)
MP3: $170.59 (170.6 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $121.35 (121.4 bb)
SB: $57.31 (57.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 5

6

CO posts BB out of position, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4.50, MP1 calls $4.50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $4.50, CO calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($23) A

8

T

(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($23) J

(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $9, CO calls $9, Hero calls $9, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds

River: ($50) T

(3 players)
Hero bets $17, MP3 folds, CO raises to $34, Hero calls $17

Results: $118 pot ($3 rake)
CO showed 4

K

(a pair of Tens) and lost (-$47.50 net)
Hero showed 5

6

(a flush, Ace high) and won $115 ($67.50 net)

 

[Stick66]

I'm gonna make a cash video soon. Need to fix some hemmoraging at 50NL FR caused by a case of "passive-itis". I'll post the link here when it's done.

August Goals:

1. Figure out the key to beating 50NL FR.
2. Stop effing around and play 25-30K hands for the month.
3. Stay on track at the new gym and new diet.
4. Start following/posting in these crazy huge monthly "poker chat" threads so I don't miss anything interesting.

Video posted:

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/sticks-video-4-tabling-50nl-08-a-158534/

 

[blankoblanco]

lol how on earth am i ever ahead, cried quite a bit on the river

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $113.65 (113.7 bb)
UTG+2: $332.95 (333 bb)
MP1: $99 (99 bb)
MP2: $99.05 (99.1 bb)
MP3: $170.59 (170.6 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $121.35 (121.4 bb)
SB: $57.31 (57.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 5

6

CO posts BB out of position, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4.50, MP1 calls $4.50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $4.50, CO calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($23) A

8

T

(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($23) J

(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 bets $9, CO calls $9, Hero calls $9, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds

River: ($50) T

(3 players)
Hero bets $17, MP3 folds, CO raises to $34, Hero calls $17

Results: $118 pot ($3 rake)
CO showed 4

K

(a pair of Tens) and lost (-$47.50 net)
Hero showed 5

6

(a flush, Ace high) and won $115 ($67.50 net)

file this under: gay-betting the river makes people do weird stuff. that's why it can be quite cool when you think their range is made up of relatively weak made hands and missed draws, this being a good example of such a spot. but obv you knew that. wp imo

 

[vanquish]

i can't wait to get good at PLO

i also don't know how i'm gonna make 27k VPPs to get to supernova + clear bonuses before year's end without serious grindaments on stars too :/

 

[kleitches]

Video posted:

https://www.cardschat.com/f53/sticks-video-4-tabling-50nl-08-a-158534/

I sent you a PM about the vid. But let me just say, you run bad in poker and life (referring to your comp freezing at the end)

 

[Jurn8]

oh then ye ok, i agree with you then, since people dont like 3betting hands like KTs or K9 suited coz 'they are easily dominated' blah blah, but have a cool thing called equity against 3bet calling hands just as long as you dont spew postflop

my HEM is broken

but im not saying that i'm flatting a lot of suited connectors to steals
i'm saying that i'm much more likely to 3bet Kxs rather than a suited connector.

depending on steal % and table dynamics, i'm capable of flatting a bunch of different hands and certainly 3betting a lot of hands like 44, some SC's, some random weird stuff, etc

not making a blanket statement by any means

yay money arrived from neteller account, people should remind me not to spend everything i own so i have £5 left in my bank account for several days waiting for monies to go in

I'm not sure how you can check, but have you ever looked through HEM to see if you are in profit flatting suited connectors like that?

i like to 3bet Kxs and call more with like 65s because i like to have bigger flush draws than the other guy

so what sort of villians are you flatting SCs like 56 - 910 against?

I usally fold/3bet 44-66 but flat 77+ tbh.

Also vanq you say your cable of flatting a bunch of hands ? What bunch? like SCs, QJs/10Js etc. obvs dont give ranges but any chance of a rough idea and reasoning why you do this?

 

[switch0723]

well i dont ever flat sc's to a steal, but i can see rationale to it, i also generally fold 22-77 and 3bet more funky stuff. Im a massive nit and fold like 90% to steals from blinds