Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Qc
fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 25.5 BB,
200NL, Vs on a heater, 4b range is TT+,AKs/o. Assuming he has no bluffs here what should we do & why?
Assuming he has a couple of bluffs what should we do & why?
IMO, we call if he has no bluffs & jam if he has some? or do we flat in both scenarios?
Been playing a ton on ignition and the games are amazing but I'm losing over the last 30k hands. Gonna take a break for awhile, the grind has been taxing.
Yeah, I heard everywhere the games are super good. I haven't played a lick. I've been swamped. I'm going to try and squeeze some hands in sometime this week though. This is the longest I've gone w/o playing.
Good that you're taking a break. Don't wait too long because these games won't be like this again for awhile from what I hear.
Yeah, I heard everywhere the games are super good. I haven't played a lick. I've been swamped. I'm going to try and squeeze some hands in sometime this week though. This is the longest I've gone w/o playing.
Good that you're taking a break. Don't wait too long because these games won't be like this again for awhile from what I hear.
I was considering 3betting pre but I don't think that I'm doing well against his GII range so I call. I was honestly considering folding the flop because when the reg calls he has at least a 9 but he never has a 9 unless it's 99+ and utg is repping a premium range as well. I can't call on the turn. I figure I'm beat but honestly it was more annoying to see I was chopping...
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Thank you for sharing your experience. I was always keen to learn how to play cash, although I am playing decent MTTs I was always afraid I am going to lose big on cash games. It is a big difference and you need a need a different bankroll for cash. I tried , I won the money quickly, I made 400$ in a few hours, then I lost it even more quicker . Then I gave up after I smashed my bankroll I started with. I think cash is like up and down and you need to be mentally ready for it.
I am going to follow you thread to learn something new and apply it and see how it is going.
You're most likely right. 3betting seemed like the standard play at the time and I did consider it. But I figured I'm against two very strong ranges(utg probably jj+,ak) (hj, Ajs-aq, 88+) and that if I 3bet and utg gii I'm not thrilled. If utg gii then hj calls I'm probably going to fold.
Thanks. That's much easier than hunting for it and deleting it each time. Drive hud is sweet, great for study. If only I studied more [emoji23][emoji23]
Hi there professor Anhalt, please help me with this little doubt:
UTG: 98.60 BB
MP: 103.3 BB CO HERO: 180.7 BB BTN Villain: 98.1 BB
SB: 99.5 BB
BB: 148 BB
SB post 0.50; BB posts 1; folds; folds; Hero CO raises 2.38 bb, Villain BTN 3-bets to 7.13 BB, folds; folds; folds; folds;
Hero CO calls:
heads-up
Pot size: 15.76 blinds
Flop: Kd6cAd
Villain BTN C-bets 1/3 pot (4.94 bb), Hero CO... (?)
Let's assume we do call:
Turn: 3h
Pot size: 25.64 blinds
Hero CO checks. Is there something else we could do here if we do call the flop? Is this 3h a good card for bluffing?
Villain BTN checks behind. I found this odds, because okay checking its Kings for protection because I can have some Ax here, but if BTN had any ace, it shouldn't be checking behind here right? So I increased the bluff range of V after he checks-behind turn.
River: 9d
Pot size: 25.64 blinds
Our action? We complete a mid flush. As I believe that V would have more bluffs than values on its range I am usually checking almost anything here, such as AK, A9, A6, A3, I guess I would not bet, my sets would not bet here as well such as 66, 33, 99, we almost never have KK and AA here, anyways, given that I am deep stacked I have more odds for calling 3-bets for setmine versus fishy style, and besides all of that I thought that if I checked turn Villain could try to overbluff this river with a bunch of stuff.
Summarizing, Hero CO checks and Villain BTN bets 18.51 bb. Our action?
You really don't have any other option other than call. You can't rep a big hand on this flop. Just Ax or Kx, and 66 (being your narrow big hand).
No, on the river he will have more value hands than bluffs. If he was bluffing, he would have bluffed the turn, then we'd def be checking river. But checking behind in position is usually a range that players over check w/ mid value hands they want to get to showdown with. So I'd bet on the small side of my range hoping to get raised as a bluff or to get a call from weak Kx/Ax. So 1/3rd pot.
oops, i accidentally deleted the stack size.. I don't have an explanation for the 3bet size, normally i just pot it and yeah it is small. A pot sized 3bet would have more likely weeded out some of those draws..
The reason i decided to call instead of raise is because our opponent is fish. I wouldn't expect him to be balancing his value range with an appropriate amount of bluffs. he's likely too going to bluff too much or not enough. Since I didn't have any real reason to put him in the former camp, I placed him in the latter. Of the bluffs he may have I think the most likely hands that a player like this would want to bluff are going to be spades and open enders that I block a bit. However, if this was a legit reg I would have just raised the flop for sure. Am I terribly far off in my thinking here?
I would have stuck it in on the turn were it not an A or K.
Hope all is well with you and yours at present!! You been playing much lately?
No stats on SB? I think it's pretty close. Two years ago I'd say good fold. But today people are bluffing wider on the river at these stakes. JT he could be flatting, KJ/TT he shouldn't be though.
I think it could be a very nitty fold but personally I just can't bring myself to do it
there's 2 reasons why I would think about it
1. he donks the R which usually shows strength because people hate xing it and not getting paid
2. 3bet on the river is a very rare scenario and its 99.9999% of the time the nuts
boards like this im sometimes not even raising river because most of the time its a gross cooler avoided
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9♥ 9♠ UTG+1 raises to $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20, BB folds
I don't think a preflop squeeze is sensible against the stats of the UTG opener. Is anyone considering squeezing here?
Flop: ($1.85) 4♦ 9♦ T♥ (7 players) Hero bets $0.92, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.92, 4 folds
Is anyone else leading here oop 7 handed? I think if I don't start some betting here its just going to check around a lot giving free cards to flush and straight draws. Particularly as the two nit openers have low aggro and may slow play / check call their overpairs.
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9♥ 9♠ UTG+1 raises to $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.20, BB folds
I don't think a preflop squeeze is sensible against the stats of the UTG opener. Is anyone considering squeezing here?
Flop: ($1.85) 4♦ 9♦ T♥ (7 players) Hero bets $0.92, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.92, 4 folds
Is anyone else leading here oop 7 handed? I think if I don't start some betting here its just going to check around a lot giving free cards to flush and straight draws. Particularly as the two nit openers have low aggro and may slow play / check call their overpairs.
Yes, FR here I'd lead the flop and lead 2/3rds. You're going to get at least 1-2 callers. And nit picking but I'd probably go slightly larger on the turn too so you can have an easy river shove. But I like the flop lead. NH.
Took me a while but made a good dent in the book now - thanks again John it’s great. I’d say it’s the “softer” side away from pure theory and maths that has really helped
At the start of the week I spent some time on the player types chapter and then only played 1 or 2 tables max for the rest of the week, tagging everyone at my tables and making decent notes on their characteristics.
I can now very quickly spot the fish at my tables and exploit them heavily which has led to a couple of 3-5 buyin winning sessions in a row. Fundamental change to my winrate - albeit small sample I’m playing much smarter and more exploitatively thanks to this framework for quickly assessing players.
Clearly the focus of the chapter is on identifying weak traits to exploit, of which there are several and quite specific. At a higher level is there a simpler set of categories you think of (I’m thinking 5/6 colour codes I can tag players with) that give a very quick sense of how to approach. To me the typical LAG/TAG/Fish isn’t descriptive enough for how to exploit. Would it look something like:
- Nit / Rock (will overfold but watch out when they fight back
- Fish (Wide/weak range - overfolds) ie your Ax players
- Fish (Wide/weak range - over aggressive) ie your raise non premiums and other generally aggressive with weak holding players such as bets unimproved
- Sticky (your flush chasers and call raises weak)
- Whale or Maniac (any two cards and get lots of money in weak)
Be interested to get your thoughts on a smaller set of groupings that can be exploited in similar ways
Took me a while but made a good dent in the book now - thanks again John it’s great. I’d say it’s the “softer” side away from pure theory and maths that has really helped
At the start of the week I spent some time on the player types chapter and then only played 1 or 2 tables max for the rest of the week, tagging everyone at my tables and making decent notes on their characteristics.
I can now very quickly spot the fish at my tables and exploit them heavily which has led to a couple of 3-5 buyin winning sessions in a row. Fundamental change to my winrate - albeit small sample I’m playing much smarter and more exploitatively thanks to this framework for quickly assessing players.
Clearly the focus of the chapter is on identifying weak traits to exploit, of which there are several and quite specific. At a higher level is there a simpler set of categories you think of (I’m thinking 5/6 colour codes I can tag players with) that give a very quick sense of how to approach. To me the typical LAG/TAG/Fish isn’t descriptive enough for how to exploit. Would it look something like:
- Nit / Rock (will overfold but watch out when they fight back
- Fish (Wide/weak range - overfolds) ie your Ax players
- Fish (Wide/weak range - over aggressive) ie your raise non premiums and other generally aggressive with weak holding players such as bets unimproved
- Sticky (your flush chasers and call raises weak)
- Whale or Maniac (any two cards and get lots of money in weak)
Be interested to get your thoughts on a smaller set of groupings that can be exploited in similar ways
Thanks for the feedback and glad you're enjoying the book.
As far as player types at higher stakes, they are still somewhat similar, but they are just better. Fish at higher stakes aren't going to be Ax players. So the specific exploits change a bit. You won't get as many sticky players, etc.. you'll still get players who like to see one more card, but depending on how high up you're talking about, all the player types just get more refined. It's not something I have written out before, so I can't just bust out all the differences, but that's a couple of basic examples.
Range wise Bruce, you are up against TT-AA and A-K- A-J.
I don't think Villain is raising pre-flop, OOP, with much less.
The big pairs are more or less confirmed by the Villain's action on the FTR.
Even though you had an over pair, betting the river as you did was only polarizing the Villain's all-in, to a bluff or the nuts.
Very difficult to find a call in this instance. I think we fold.
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[emoji812] 9[emoji815] Hero raises to $1.50, 4 folds, SB raises to $5.25 currently 12% 3 bet from SB, BB folds, Hero calls $3.75
You should be checking this turn a ton. I assume he understands your UTG open and calling range will be strong, so FE should be low enough that he just calls his draws on the turn for the price. So you'd be looking at some air and then overpairs. You shouldn't have enough to call... so what range are you putting him on?
You should be checking this turn a ton. I assume he understands your UTG open and calling range will be strong, so FE should be low enough that he just calls his draws on the turn for the price. So you'd be looking at some air and then overpairs. You shouldn't have enough to call... so what range are you putting him on?
Once he checks this turn that increases the chances of him having overcards.
I bet 3rd pot for two reasons, firstly to protect my equity to avoid giving a freebee card to two overs and or a flush draw.
A fair amount of players at this stake simpy fold their overcards here, but plenty will still call hoping to hit the overcard so you draw out that extra bet when you are in front.
He will have plenty of air here but air probably just barrels.
Against his flop range I reckon we have 40% equity attached range but I would be suprised if he check raises turn with anything other than AA KK, maybe the two A5 with the flush draw and oesd.
At these stakes I've never seen anyone check raise all in like this in this spot as a bluff and this guys AF isn't high enough for me to call down.
I folded. I'm not sure just where to draw the line on this this hand in terms of AF.
But i'll take on board your suggestion to check this turn a little more.
