Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[John A]

Once he checks this turn that increases the chances of him having overcards.
I bet 3rd pot for two reasons, firstly to protect my equity to avoid giving a freebee card to two overs and or a flush draw.
A fair amount of players at this stake simpy fold their overcards here, but plenty will still call hoping to hit the overcard so you draw out that extra bet when you are in front.
He will have plenty of air here but air probably just barrels.

Against his flop range I reckon we have 40% equity attached range but I would be suprised if he check raises turn with anything other than AA KK, maybe the two A5 with the flush draw and oesd.
At these stakes I've never seen anyone check raise all in like this in this spot as a bluff and this guys AF isn't high enough for me to call down.
I folded. I'm not sure just where to draw the line on this this hand in terms of AF.
But i'll take on board your suggestion to check this turn a little more.

Yes, sounds good. And with the price you gave him, he shouldn't be CRAI with a ton of draws once you bet the turn because your turn betting range should be really polarized to bluffs (many of which he'd beat unless he has a low flush draw / straight combo - which is still great for him to call with), and JJ+.

Assuming a standard reg, you want to have a wide checking range on these low boards once you call the flop in a 3-bet pot for pot control because you'll have a lot of mid strength hands that can't handle a raise. SRP, you can bet the turn here more often. Just think about what value hands you're going to have here - it's a very small amount, so a good general rule of thumb is, when your value hands are small, and your opponents second best calling range is low, you should be checking wider.

 

[John A]

Moneymaker interview:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/07/chris-moneymaker-wsop-memories-drivehud.com-37504.htm

 

[gustav197poker]

Moneymaker interview:

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/07/chris-moneymaker-wsop-memories-drivehud.com-37504.htm

I'm not sure it's the best idea that the lawyer and wife know about the bracelet hiding place lol.

 

[John A]

I'm not sure it's the best idea that the lawyer and wife know about the bracelet hiding place lol.

lol... right? Ya, not wise.

 

[John A]

Where is everyone playing lately?

I hope a good amount of you have gotten on the phone App sites. So many of them are ubber juicy.

 

[Figaroo2]

Im doing 60% of my volume on 888. 30% on pokerstars. I also have small amounts on partypoker, Run it once , Black Chip Poker, unibet and william hill.

 

[John A]

Im doing 60% of my volume on 888. 30% on Pokerstars. I also have small amounts on PartyPoker, Run it once , Black Chip Poker, Unibet and William Hill.

That's a good spread... but no action on these phone Apps? They are so juicy.

 

[LevySystem]

That's a good spread... but no action on these phone apps? They are so juicy.

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

 

[Alucard]

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

you can use emulators to run them + some have their own pc versions. But running multiple emulators is a huge load on the pc so you should have a decent one
Some apps heavily ban huds(pppoker - I'm device banned there)
While you can use hud catchers to use hud in others. Drive hud has it's own hud catcher I believe
While you can use something like elitehud catcher for pt4/hm3

 

[LevySystem]

you can use emulators to run them + some have their own pc versions. But running multiple emulators is a huge load on the pc so you should have a decent one
Some apps heavily ban huds(pppoker - I'm device banned there)
While you can use hud catchers to use hud in others. Drive hud has it's own hud catcher I believe
While you can use something like elitehud catcher for pt4/hm3

Sweet, thanks for the info!
Tbh I don't care much wich HUD it is, but the fact that can use one is great. Tracking hands is the one thing that keeps me on the bigger sites.

What about volume? Since the main sites don't really like winning players I can't imagine it's that much different over there. Any problems encourtered so far regarding volume, withdraw etc? Like there will obv be black sheep, guess I'm just a bit paranoid

 

[Alucard]

Sweet, thanks for the info!
Tbh I don't care much wich HUD it is, but the fact that can use one is great. Tracking hands is the one thing that keeps me on the bigger sites.

What about volume? Since the main sites don't really like winning players I can't imagine it's that much different over there. Any problems encourtered so far regarding volume, withdraw etc? Like there will obv be black sheep, guess I'm just a bit paranoid

volume is quite low. You'd have to run multiple accounts on multiple clubs to keep a decent volume.
Withdrawals are heavily leaned towards crypto now. Also you need to find a really trustworthy agent. I've heard tons of stories of agents scamming playersof their money.

If some agent gives you a money guarantee, has a reputable site or something with a decent enough rb deal then that's the way to go.
If someone texts you on skype or telegram offering you a very high deal then that's a red alert cause those are the people who go missing out on you

 

[LevySystem]

volume is quite low. You'd have to run multiple accounts on multiple clubs to keep a decent volume.
Withdrawals are heavily leaned towards crypto now. Also you need to find a really trustworthy agent. I've heard tons of stories of agents scamming playersof their money.

If some agent gives you a money guarantee, has a reputable site or something with a decent enough rb deal then that's the way to go.
If someone texts you on skype or telegram offering you a very high deal then that's a red alert cause those are the people who go missing out on you

Thank you a lot for the insight!

I will have a look around and see what I can gather. If nothing this could be some nice +ev grind on the side.

 

[or3o1990]

Nice hand Bruce. Calling pre is good.I don't do much leading but it you think it will check around then seems like a good idea. I'd bet the pot on the flop. I would consider checking the turn if we think they like betting draws.

 

[or3o1990]

This one was fun but confusing. I have the monster draw but many of my outs are going to be no good. I'd be happy with a low spade or the Ks for sure but other than those cards I'm not sure which if any of my outs besides Ks are good. This felt grimey...


Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
MP ($448.04) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 47.8% | Hands: 24]
HJ ($279.83) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands: 40]
BTN ($204.73) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 34]
SB ($210.37) [VPIP: 23.7% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 41.7% | Hands: 39]
BB ($280.80) [VPIP: 8.6% | PFR: 8.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 35]
HERO ($200)
EP ($183.63) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: A♠ Q♠

HERO Raises To $6, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Calls $6, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.93 effective]
Flop ($15): T♠ J♠ J♦
HERO Bets $7.13 (Rem. Stack: $186.87), CO Raises To $35.64 (Rem. Stack: $172.68), HERO Calls $28.51 (Rem. Stack: $158.36)

Turn ($86.28): T♠ J♠ J♦ 5♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $61.71 (Rem. Stack: $110.97), HERO Folds

Spoiler

CO wins: $82.28

 

[Figaroo2]

NL Holdem 2(BB)
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands 40

For me off those stats he's basically saying he has TT or a strong Jx. With you in EP hes saying he can beat AA or has a strong draw.
KQs and maybe 89s are about the only draws I can see.
I dont think he folds anything if you reraise on the flop so thats a coinflip or slightly worse.
There is though some uncertainty with only 40 odd hands.

If you are only chasing a flush you don't really have the odds to call the flop.

 

[John A]

Hello John,

I was wondering if it's possible to grind them on a desktop? Like are these type of rooms mobile only and if yes can you emulate them, or is it even allowed to do so?

And what about handhistories ?

Yes you can grind them on a desktop. We have two solutions, either Drivehud, which has an internal catcher built in, or a stand alone app - asian hand converter, which can be used with other HUDs like hm3/2, pt4, etc...

https://drivehud.com/asianhandconverter/

Our converters work extremely well with several emualors, Ldplayer, Nox, and bluestacks.

 

[John A]

This one was fun but confusing. I have the monster draw but many of my outs are going to be no good. I'd be happy with a low spade or the Ks for sure but other than those cards I'm not sure which if any of my outs besides Ks are good. This felt grimey...


Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 2(BB)
MP ($448.04) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 8.3% | AGG: 47.8% | Hands: 24]
HJ ($279.83) [VPIP: 0% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 100% | Hands: 17]
CO ($214.32) [VPIP: 15.4% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 22.2% | Flop Agg: 20% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 15.4% | Hands: 40]
BTN ($204.73) [VPIP: 20.6% | PFR: 20.6% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 34]
SB ($210.37) [VPIP: 23.7% | PFR: 7.9% | AGG: 41.7% | Hands: 39]
BB ($280.80) [VPIP: 8.6% | PFR: 8.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 35]
HERO ($200)
EP ($183.63) [VPIP: 12.5% | PFR: 6.3% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 16]

Dealt to Hero: A♠ Q♠

HERO Raises To $6, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Calls $6, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds

Hero SPR on Flop: [12.93 effective]
Flop ($15): T♠ J♠ J♦
HERO Bets $7.13 (Rem. Stack: $186.87), CO Raises To $35.64 (Rem. Stack: $172.68), HERO Calls $28.51 (Rem. Stack: $158.36)

Turn ($86.28): T♠ J♠ J♦ 5♥
HERO Checks, CO Bets $61.71 (Rem. Stack: $110.97), HERO Folds

Spoiler

CO wins: $82.28

Yeah, with a monster nut flush draw OOP there, it's better to c/c. Especially with the amounts people are betting ranges now a days, it's just a much better play rather than gambling for stacks.

 

[John A]

For anyone using Drivehud in here, are there any specific tutorials you'd want more details about? We're doing some more series and was looking for feedback. Ty!

 

[Figaroo2]

hand analysis please

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

 

[or3o1990]

For anyone using Drivehud in here, are there any specific tutorials you'd want more details about? We're doing some more series and was looking for feedback. Ty!

If you could make some vids using the range analyzer and charts from the hh replayer I'd be into it.

Have you been playing much lately?

 

[or3o1990]

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

This is a shitty spot but if i may suggest getting him to 4bet you pre? it'd make this a lot easier to play lol..

The only thing I really do not like is the flop sizing. I'd bet pot or near it if i was to bet. I'd prefer a check especially against a good opponent.

I would not call that river and I would consider check folding the turn. Unless he's passive on the river and will allow a showdown often we're just going to get punished every time.


So if it were me I probably would have c/c flop then c/f the turn. no shame, this board just sucks for KK

 

[John A]

I was playing tight and had just lost a 44$ pot to UTG2 AK v AQ the previous hand.
CO is a decent reg who likes to 3bet me in position.
I was suprised by his flat here, flop hits his range hard here. I'm not sure on flop bet sizing and turn check, any suggested improvements and are you calling it off?

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $50.45 (100.9 bb)
BB: $47.56 (95.1 bb)
UTG+2: $72.20 (144.4 bb) VPIP: 40, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: 1.3, Hands: 85 FISHY
MP1: $52.80 (105.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): $52.59 (105.2 bb)
MP3: $51.59 (103.2 bb)
CO: $62.20 (124.4 bb)VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 8, AF: 2.7, Hands: 2212
BTN: $49 (98 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♥ K♦
UTG+2 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO calls $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3

Flop: ($12.75) T♣ J♥ 9♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $4.20, CO calls $4.20, UTG+2 folds

Turn: ($21.15) 7♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8.01, Hero calls $8.01

River: ($37.17) 8♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $45.99 and is all-in, Hero?

Turn you can c/f since this was a MW flop. As played, I think you can call for the split. If your read is correct the only Q he should have is QQ, which is a bit unlikely.

 

[Figaroo2]

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

Hero (SB): $12.65 (126.5 bb)
BB: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
UTG+2: $11.40 (114 bb)
MP1: $5.07 (50.7 bb)
MP2: $16.06 (160.6 bb)VPIP: 24, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.5, Hands: 116 FT3b 0 in 4.
MP3: $5.08 (50.8 bb)
CO: $10.63 (106.3 bb)
BTN: $6.23 (62.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:diamond: Q:heart:
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) J:spade: Q:club: T:spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 raises to $1.90, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($6.20) 5:diamond: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.96, Hero?
Smells like AK but could also be sets and some flush draws. what line do you fancy from here?

 

[John A]

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

Hero (SB): $12.65 (126.5 bb)
BB: $11.81 (118.1 bb)
UTG+2: $11.40 (114 bb)
MP1: $5.07 (50.7 bb)
MP2: $16.06 (160.6 bb)VPIP: 24, PFR: 17, 3B: 6, AF: 1.5, Hands: 116 FT3b 0 in 4.
MP3: $5.08 (50.8 bb)
CO: $10.63 (106.3 bb)
BTN: $6.23 (62.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♦ Q♥
UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.40) J♠ Q♣ T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, MP2 raises to $1.90, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($6.20) 5♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $2.96, Hero?
Smells like AK but could also be sets and some flush draws. what line do you fancy from here?

Call turn, check river. If he has a set or T he's going to bet the river, and that's when you shove, not before. You want to keep all his bluffs in.

 

[Figaroo2]

Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
BB: $63.06 (126.1 bb)VPIP: 47, PFR: 15, 3B: 0, AF: 3.1, Hands: 194 <(())><
UTG+1: $137.15 (274.3 bb)
UTG+2: $50 (100 bb)
MP1: $90.58 (181.2 bb)VPIP: 22, PFR: 19, 3B: 3, AF: 2.7, Hands: 175
MP2: $57.15 (114.3 bb)
MP3: $79.62 (159.2 bb)
CO: $22.80 (45.6 bb)
BTN: $51.42 (102.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♣ J♠
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $4, MP1 raises to $12.65, Hero calls $8.15, BB calls $8.15
MP1 has 10% 4bet, small sample but too high to fold JJ methinks. I'm concerned by the low 3B though for an otherwise medium aggressive player. The presence of the fish is a small concern, I feel like it strenghtens the range of MP1 taking away most of his A5s type bluffs. He should need a hand to take on a potential calling station fish.

Flop: ($37.95) 3♥ Q♥ Q♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $11.90, Hero calls $11.90, BB folds I don't think I can fold to this sizing with all his bluffs still present. Calling looks the only real option. I was hoping the fish was going to hang around on the flop as it means MP will need a hand to fire the turn.

Turn: ($61.75) T♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $29.34, Hero?

If we give him a 4bet range of JJ-AA AK and all his bluffs in we have around 50% equity so standard call?