Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

[rhombus]

I knew there was someone left who hasn't used Skype... it was you all along huh?

Yes, you need a mic.

What's wrong with your HUD?

completely screwed since last thurs or friday after a beta update
no table finder and duplicate hands am in a thread and email correspondence with fozzy

 

[Figaroo2]

The only trick will be time coordination, but they are handy and useful. Group Skype call while we watch someone and play poker.

I'm down for this next Tuesday. Maybe somewhere between 11am - 3pm PST? Anyone else have any suggestions? The more people the better also.

I can't do Tuesday, daughters birthday & going out but I'm up for this any other time I can't believe there aren't more takers

 

[or3o1990]

I can't do Tuesday, daughters birthday & going out but I'm up for this any other time I can't believe there aren't more takers

hey their loss! my schedule is wide open, so whatever is best for everyone else works for me!

 

[John A]

completely screwed since last thurs or friday after a beta update
no table finder and duplicate hands am in a thread and email correspondence with fozzy

Ick... well, I'm sure they'll sort it out. If not, tell fozzy he has to deal with me.

 

[John A]

I can't do Tuesday, daughters birthday & going out but I'm up for this any other time I can't believe there aren't more takers

We'll do others too. But this Tues 9/15 at 2pm PST work ok for anyone? We'll have to swap skype contact info.

 

[Figaroo2]

We'll do others too. But this Tues 9/15 at 2pm PST work ok for anyone? We'll have to swap skype contact info.

If I'm right then that is 10pm in the UK and I will home by then and available.
This particular daughter (I have 4 daughters!) is only going to be 12.
You have my skype details

 

[or3o1990]

We'll do others too. But this Tues 9/15 at 2pm PST work ok for anyone? We'll have to swap skype contact info.

Sounds good to me. You already have my info as well but if anyone else wants to add me on skype please do! It's or3o1990

 

[or3o1990]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a little bit of input on how you all review your own game in the short term? Over 18k hands I managed to win around 25 BI and now after almost 70k I've managed to break even. I know that 70k isn't that big of a sample size and that the deviation can be quite large at this number. So how the heck do we analyze our game or attempt to adapt our strategy at this point?

 

[or3o1990]

I guess what I'm really asking is are there any particular filters or reports you guys are running if you use pt4? I'm a bit one dimensional in my hh review. I just tag all of the big ones(mostly losing hands) and as I flip through them I try to take some notes. Other than that I'll look at position and see where I've been losing from and how much. It's an underwhelming approach and I haven't been finding a whole heck of a lot. I could use some ideas!

 

[Figaroo2]

I guess what I'm really asking is are there any particular filters or reports you guys are running if you use pt4? I'm a bit one dimensional in my hh review. I just tag all of the big ones(mostly losing hands) and as I flip through them I try to take some notes. Other than that I'll look at position and see where I've been losing from and how much. It's an underwhelming approach and I haven't been finding a whole heck of a lot. I could use some ideas!

I use HM2 which is rightly touted as better than PT4 for analysis
you might get a few ideas from my thread
start looking from post #245
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/pok...6/review-2014-goals-2015-a-257038/index7.html

 

[or3o1990]

Will do.

 

[or3o1990]

I use HM2 which is rightly touted as better than PT4 for analysis
you might get a few ideas from my thread
start looking from post #245
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/pok...6/review-2014-goals-2015-a-257038/index7.html

See I have no idea how to break down the spots like that with pt4 but i guess I'll just have to play with it and figure it out. Definitely helpful stuff though, thank you.

 

[John A]

We'll do others too. But this Tues 9/15 at 2pm PST work ok for anyone? We'll have to swap skype contact info.

So anyone interested in group sweat tomorrow, PM me for skype details. I'll get everyone on a list and then start a group chat at that time.

 

[Figaroo2]

I'm in you have my skype details and I have also hooked up on skype with or3o1990

 

[John A]

I guess what I'm really asking is are there any particular filters or reports you guys are running if you use pt4? I'm a bit one dimensional in my hh review. I just tag all of the big ones(mostly losing hands) and as I flip through them I try to take some notes. Other than that I'll look at position and see where I've been losing from and how much. It's an underwhelming approach and I haven't been finding a whole heck of a lot. I could use some ideas!

I thought you were using HM2 for some reason. So you have Leak buster for PT. Why don't you go through some of the top 5 leaks, and the filters in step 7.

Honestly, that's what I do for my own game, and then I take a look at some of my top losing hands.

If you're doing the sweat tomorrow, let's just sweat you and we can all go over some of your tougher spots together. You're mostly playing 100nl correct?

 

[or3o1990]

I thought you were using HM2 for some reason. So you have Leak buster for PT. Why don't you go through some of the top 5 leaks, and the filters in step 7.

Honestly, that's what I do for my own game, and then I take a look at some of my top losing hands.

If you're doing the sweat tomorrow, let's just sweat you and we can all go over some of your tougher spots together. You're mostly playing 100nl correct?

I have the leak buster and the one that comes with pt4. And yes, probably 90% of my hands are 100nl. Sounds good to me, I could use a good roasting!

 

[John A]

I have the leak buster and the one that comes with pt4. And yes, probably 90% of my hands are 100nl. Sounds good to me, I could use a good roasting!

Gotcha... so you have poop tracker too.

It's on then. Talk w/ you in a couple of hours.

Anyone else want to join, feel free and PM me.

 

[hutzpaf]

I just send you message but because I'm not your buddy list don't know where it went.

 

[Figaroo2]

Hopeless as soon as he calls this turn bet I'm beaten right?
I couldn't see his hand blinded by the flush draw although I did suspect a set of 888
I cant seem to let go in these spots despite the fact i know I'm beat like here, hes never bluffing here i've too much money in.
tried a blocking bet but Check fold on the end?

poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $23.06 (92.2 bb)
BB: $26.27 (105.1 bb)
UTG+2: $47.55 (190.2 bb)
MP1: $35.66 (142.6 bb)
MP2: $31.28 (125.1 bb)
MP3: $7.88 (31.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $24.65 (98.6 bb) supernova TAG

Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade: K:spade:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($2.50) T:heart: 8:diamond: K:heart: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.79, BTN calls $1.79, SB calls $1.79

Turn: ($7.87) A:club: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.64, BTN calls $5.64, SB calls $5.64

River: ($24.79) 6:diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $16.47 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $11.47

Results: $57.73 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: T:heart: 8:diamond: K:heart: A:club: 6:diamond:
SB mucked and lost (-$8.18 net)
Hero mucked A:spade: K:spade: and lost (-$24.65 net)
BTN showed Q:spade: J:spade: and won $55.73 ($31.08 net)

These hands are very damaging for my confidence guess in the heat of the hand I'm still just a fish, I'm not stopping to look at the hand properly on the end.

 

[or3o1990]

I enjoyed the session today guys! I'll admit I was a bit nervous but I guess that's why they call it a sweat, right?

Here's a hand from shortly after you'd left John. Figaroo read him like a book but I didn't have it in me to bluff here. What do you think?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 294.44 BB
CO: 102.2 BB
BTN: 96 BB
SB: 96 BB
Hero (BB): 228.36 BB
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 31.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:heart: Q:diamond:

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP raises to 33.5 BB, Hero calls 22.5 BB

Flop: (67.5 BB, 2 players) 7:heart: 5:spade: 6:spade:
Hero checks, MP bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

Turn: (147.5 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (147.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero checks, MP checks

Hero shows Q:heart: Q:diamond: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
MP shows K:heart: K:spade: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 144.5 BB

 

[hutzpaf]

This picture help you how to get installed Raise First In in different positions PT4.
This allows you to find better players who know how to use the advantage of position. There was certainly a lot of limpers to punish them by raise about pot size like John says.

 

[John A]

I just send you message but because I'm not your buddy list don't know where it went.

You're my buddy now.

Hope you got something from the sweat yesterday.

 

[John A]

Hopeless as soon as he calls this turn bet I'm beaten right?
I couldn't see his hand blinded by the flush draw although I did suspect a set of 888
I cant seem to let go in these spots despite the fact i know I'm beat like here, hes never bluffing here i've too much money in.
tried a blocking bet but Check fold on the end?

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $23.06 (92.2 bb)
BB: $26.27 (105.1 bb)
UTG+2: $47.55 (190.2 bb)
MP1: $35.66 (142.6 bb)
MP2: $31.28 (125.1 bb)
MP3: $7.88 (31.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $24.65 (98.6 bb) supernova TAG

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♠ K♠
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB folds

Flop: ($2.50) T♥ 8♦ K♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.79, BTN calls $1.79, SB calls $1.79

Turn: ($7.87) A♣ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.64, BTN calls $5.64, SB calls $5.64

River: ($24.79) 6♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, BTN raises to $16.47 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $11.47

Results: $57.73 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: T♥ 8♦ K♥ A♣ 6♦
SB mucked and lost (-$8.18 net)
Hero mucked A♠ K♠ and lost (-$24.65 net)
BTN showed Q♠ J♠ and won $55.73 ($31.08 net)

These hands are very damaging for my confidence guess in the heat of the hand I'm still just a fish, I'm not stopping to look at the hand properly on the end.

No, you're not beaten as soon as he calls the turn. It's somewhat closer though because you have KT/AT and flush draws you beat, and you're beat by TT/88 and QJ. But you're still ahead.

I mean, maybe some stats could make a river c/f possible. I don't think GII is some huge leak here though.

It doesn't bring up a good point in what you said. You saw the flush draw, but the straight draw you didn't quite see. That's why straight draws carry much higher implied odds than flush draws.

 

[John A]

I enjoyed the session today guys! I'll admit I was a bit nervous but I guess that's why they call it a sweat, right?

Here's a hand from shortly after you'd left John. Figaroo read him like a book but I didn't have it in me to bluff here. What do you think?

PokerStars - $1 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 294.44 BB
CO: 102.2 BB
BTN: 96 BB
SB: 96 BB
Hero (BB): 228.36 BB
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 31.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♦

fold, fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP raises to 33.5 BB, Hero calls 22.5 BB

Flop: (67.5 BB, 2 players) 7♥ 5♠ 6♠
Hero checks, MP bets 40 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

Turn: (147.5 BB, 2 players) A♦
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (147.5 BB, 2 players) 2♦
Hero checks, MP checks

Hero shows Q♥ Q♦ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
MP shows K♥ K♠ (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
MP wins 144.5 BB

Yeah it was a good sweat, and hopefully it's something that will help boost your confidence going forward. Sometimes that's all we need to get on a roll.

I think your hand looks great. I think this deep at FR there's not much else you can do here really. I wouldn't try and bluff someone off of K's at these stakes. And it's just much harder to rep Ax once you c/c the flop. So AA becomes harder as well.

 

[or3o1990]

Yeah it was a good sweat, and hopefully it's something that will help boost your confidence going forward. Sometimes that's all we need to get on a roll.

I think your hand looks great. I think this deep at FR there's not much else you can do here really. I wouldn't try and bluff someone off of K's at these stakes. And it's just much harder to rep Ax once you c/c the flop. So AA becomes harder as well.

Yeah I sure hope so!

His hand did seem a bit face up here but my thoughts were how often will he fold and how much do I have to bet to make him consider it. I felt like I had to bet min 80 and I wasn't so sure how often he's folding to that so I decided to let it go. I think if we weren't so deep I would have felt more comfortable taking a stab.