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eBuddy
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I will start off with the relatively simple examples of how I played my Aces. I have grinded online, but in these hands, I was playing 2/5 live with effective stacks of $500. I had
UTG and I almost always raise when I open, but in this hand, I opted to balance and limp instead. As I was hoping for, LAG raises on the puck (button) to $30. Then TAG on the BB squeezes to ~$90. Now normally, I would 4-bet with Aces to put more money into the pot and try to get heads-up, but I opt to play balanced deception in this hand and just flat.
With a $272 pot, the flop is something like
BB bets ~$180. Normally, I would value raise with AA since there are possible draws and I am against two villains, but I again opt for balanced deception and just flat. BB ends up putting me all-in (AK), and I take down the pot of over $1,100! A 5/10 regular waiting on the 2/5 table said he did not put me on AA and said, "Well played."
About an orbit or two later, I have
again in EP. This time, I raise to $20. Villain in LP min-raises to $35. Normally, I would re-raise only a small amount, not wanting him to fold. I again opt to balance by playing the same hand differently and overbet to ~$140. He calls, probably not putting me on AA. I value bet on the flop, he raises all-in (KK) and I stack him. I cash out with over $1,600 to go for a meal break with friends. Obviously, trying to play balanced against regulars doesn't always turn out as well for me, but those losing hands are for later examples.
UTG and I almost always raise when I open, but in this hand, I opted to balance and limp instead. As I was hoping for, LAG raises on the puck (button) to $30. Then TAG on the BB squeezes to ~$90. Now normally, I would 4-bet with Aces to put more money into the pot and try to get heads-up, but I opt to play balanced deception in this hand and just flat.
With a $272 pot, the flop is something like
BB bets ~$180. Normally, I would value raise with AA since there are possible draws and I am against two villains, but I again opt for balanced deception and just flat. BB ends up putting me all-in (AK), and I take down the pot of over $1,100! A 5/10 regular waiting on the 2/5 table said he did not put me on AA and said, "Well played."
About an orbit or two later, I have
again in EP. This time, I raise to $20. Villain in LP min-raises to $35. Normally, I would re-raise only a small amount, not wanting him to fold. I again opt to balance by playing the same hand differently and overbet to ~$140. He calls, probably not putting me on AA. I value bet on the flop, he raises all-in (KK) and I stack him. I cash out with over $1,600 to go for a meal break with friends. Obviously, trying to play balanced against regulars doesn't always turn out as well for me, but those losing hands are for later examples.
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aCutAbove
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Hi John and everyone.
Sorry for butting in here, I downloaded the original ebook as soon as it hit Hem. I read it straight through in one sitting.
I was stunned by the quality as i have a shelf full of books with far less useable content, they cost me a small fortune and a large chunk of my micro roll.
I want to join in and catch up here but i can't open the ebook. It tries to open with Kindle but it's not in my kindle library?? i don't remember it downloading as a kindle book either. Adobe can't read it?
Any suggestions anyone.
Cheers.
Sorry for butting in here, I downloaded the original ebook as soon as it hit Hem. I read it straight through in one sitting.
I was stunned by the quality as i have a shelf full of books with far less useable content, they cost me a small fortune and a large chunk of my micro roll.
I want to join in and catch up here but i can't open the ebook. It tries to open with Kindle but it's not in my kindle library?? i don't remember it downloading as a kindle book either. Adobe can't read it?
Any suggestions anyone.
Cheers.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
I will start off with the relatively simple examples of how I played my Aces. I have grinded online, but in these hands, I was playing 2/5 live with effective stacks of $500. I had
UTG and I almost always raise when I open, but in this hand, I opted to balance and limp instead. As I was hoping for, LAG raises on the puck (button) to $30. Then TAG on the BB squeezes to ~$90. Now normally, I would 4-bet with Aces to put more money into the pot and try to get heads-up, but I opt to play balanced deception in this hand and just flat.
With a $272 pot, the flop is something like
BB bets ~$180. Normally, I would value raise with AA since there are possible draws and I am against two villains, but I again opt for balanced deception and just flat. BB ends up putting me all-in (AK), and I take down the pot of over $1,100! A 5/10 regular waiting on the 2/5 table said he did not put me on AA and said, "Well played."
About an orbit or two later, I have
again in EP. This time, I raise to $20. Villain in LP min-raises to $35. Normally, I would re-raise only a small amount, not wanting him to fold. I again opt to balance by playing the same hand differently and overbet to ~$140. He calls, probably not putting me on AA. I value bet on the flop, he raises all-in (KK) and I stack him. I cash out with over $1,600 to go for a meal break with friends. Obviously, trying to play balanced against regulars doesn't always turn out as well for me, but those losing hands are for later examples.
Thanks for sharing. Are you doing a good amount of limping this game to want to create a balance for a limping range? If there's a lot of limping in your game, I would presume it's soft enough that you wouldn't want to.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Thanks for the compliment. I'm hoping that this + the workbook is going to have a lot of important information you're not going to find in typical poker books you'd have to pay for. I'm hoping that because it's free people don't over look it. I guess I could start charging $50 or something like some of these other guys.
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rhombus
Legend
Silver Level
Didn't some of the pros charge up to $2K for ebooks. As a pro would you ever consider that a reasonable price.Thanks for the compliment. I'm hoping that this + the workbook is going to have a lot of important information you're not going to find in typical poker books you'd have to pay for. I'm hoping that because it's free people don't over look it. I guess I could start charging $50 or something like some of these other guys.
PS I read chapter 9 last night and noticerd a couple of typo/errors should i post in this thread or just PM you so you can edit when you get a chance
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A9ofHearts
Visionary
Silver Level
Thanks for the compliment. I'm hoping that this + the workbook is going to have a lot of important information you're not going to find in typical poker books you'd have to pay for. I'm hoping that because it's free people don't over look it. I guess I could start charging $50 or something like some of these other guys.
Well thanks for doing it for free
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Anything is reasonable if someone will pay for it. These guys can charge whatever they want, but would never pay for it. And I've paid near that much per hour for coaching in the past.
Yes, PM me anything you find please. I re-worked some of it this week, but I've been super busy with some unexpected life stuff, so I haven't updated it on the server yet.
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eBuddy
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I open-raise most of the time, except occasionally with AA/KK/QQ in early position, hoping to open-limp/raise. I believe open-limping is a leak, but is very common in the live games I've played. Are you saying that I should (almost) never limp with AA-QQ in a limpy game and raise with them all of the time? Would you agree that if I think a hand is playable, that I should open-raise instead of open-limp, e.g., UTG with JTs, 55 or AJ (10-player table)?
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
I wouldn't say to never do something, but unless you're trying to have a limping range, and looking to do it often, it wouldn't make sense to do and it's not really deceptive balance. But that's good that you're looking to play some hands different, and your opponent will have to consider that in other situations.
And yes, I would open raise or fold those mentioned hands at a 10 player table as a general rule. But nothing is static, and it might make sense in some spots to limp, but at most tables you're just going to be stuck calling a raise OOP with a perceived inferior hand range.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Homework (if this applies to your games): Make sure you go through pgs 98-103. You want to make sure you understand your average equity on different board textures. Why? Because you want to put yourself in the most ideal bluffing and floating spots, and to make sure you aren't taking suboptimal lines based on your hand. I can't stress that enough, because if you get this section (which I'm telling you, no one has really broken down like this before, not looking for props, just letting you know you have info that a lot of people aren't really considering very well), you're going to have a really good understanding of how to play a lot of situations better than your opponents. So just make sure you spend some time on it, don't rush through it.
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Ohep1
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Thanks for doing this for free. Does it make sense to follow this, even though I would like to try out hunl and not 6 max?
Another question - the upcoming workshop - will anything be available online for us that live in Europe?
Another question - the upcoming workshop - will anything be available online for us that live in Europe?
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A9ofHearts
Visionary
Silver Level
If we are in position this would be pretty much any paired board that doesn't hit our opponents range much, right? Something Like QQ2 rainbow?
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rhombus
Legend
Silver Level
Wouldn't it be a low paired board 833 as their range more likely to have hit a higher than lower paired board
jedimindpicks
Legend
Silver Level
Ok well I just stumbled in here today but better late than never I guess.
Looking forward to following along. I take it Chapter nine is still the place to start? I reviewed most of this thread so far and thanks for the book btw.
Looking forward to following along. I take it Chapter nine is still the place to start? I reviewed most of this thread so far and thanks for the book btw.
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Dom1
Rising Star
Silver Level
I play mainly fr,i'm going over the equity on different boards(pg94+)
23% of hands would,in most cases be fairly loose.
Will the the equity change much if i use say a 14% opening range?
Also is this based on equity trainer in APD?
Thanks
23% of hands would,in most cases be fairly loose.
Will the the equity change much if i use say a 14% opening range?
Also is this based on equity trainer in APD?
Thanks
aCutAbove
Enthusiast
Silver Level
The tighter his opening range the less equity we have?
Again just a guess/thought don't take my word for it. Wait for John.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Well, this was a little bit of a trick question. The kind of air you have kind of makes a difference in what boards you'd be c/cing on and what your plan is. Based on having overcards though, in the book, the best boards are a paired low board and a coordinated low board.
Why is that important? A ton of reasons, but I'll give you one to start, and see if you can come up with anymore.
1) Having difficulty with opponents floating you a lot on these kinds of boards or raising you off your hands when they have position on you? Awesome... c/c with your air sometimes instead of c-bet on these board, and then lead the turn. Make sure you start mixing in some c/cing with your made hands against these opponents as well. Works pretty well. I'm understating that actually.
Why is that important? A ton of reasons, but I'll give you one to start, and see if you can come up with anymore.
1) Having difficulty with opponents floating you a lot on these kinds of boards or raising you off your hands when they have position on you? Awesome... c/c with your air sometimes instead of c-bet on these board, and then lead the turn. Make sure you start mixing in some c/cing with your made hands against these opponents as well. Works pretty well. I'm understating that actually.