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BTN: 178.9 BB (VPIP: 31.63, PFR: 26.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.56, hands: 643)
Hero (SB): 102.25 BB
BB: 145.9 BB (VPIP: 27.05, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.62, Hands: 340)
CO: 130.45 BB (VPIP: 29.33, PFR: 22.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.10, Hands: 989)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Jc
fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop : (17 BB, 2 players) 7d As Qh
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Turn : (34 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, BTN bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (74 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, BTN bets 142.4 BB,

V fold to 3b - 64%, from BTN - 36%
4b - 14% none from BTN
Stationy as well
WTSD - 24, WSD - 64

I feel like this is a fold. I've seen him calling a triple barrel with a low pp & barreling air thrice multiway flop etc. He's loose but can't see him jamming worse
 
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BTN: 178.9 BB (VPIP: 31.63, PFR: 26.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.56, Hands: 643)
Hero (SB): 102.25 BB
BB: 145.9 BB (VPIP: 27.05, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.62, Hands: 340)
CO: 130.45 BB (VPIP: 29.33, PFR: 22.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.10, Hands: 989)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Jc
fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop : (17 BB, 2 players) 7d As Qh
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Turn : (34 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, BTN bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (74 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, BTN bets 142.4 BB,

V fold to 3b - 64%, from BTN - 36%
4b - 14% none from BTN
Stationy as well
WTSD - 24, WSD - 64

I feel like this is a fold. I've seen him calling a triple barrel with a low pp & barreling air thrice multiway flop etc. He's loose but can't see him jamming worse
i feel like he is not betting the turn anything worse than set or Two Pair!
What did you do?
 
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BTN: 178.9 BB (VPIP: 31.63, PFR: 26.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.56, Hands: 643)
Hero (SB): 102.25 BB
BB: 145.9 BB (VPIP: 27.05, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.62, Hands: 340)
CO: 130.45 BB (VPIP: 29.33, PFR: 22.47, 3Bet Preflop: 8.10, Hands: 989)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ac Jc
fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop : (17 BB, 2 players) 7d As Qh
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Turn : (34 BB, 2 players) 6s
Hero checks, BTN bets 20 BB, Hero calls 20 BB

River : (74 BB, 2 players) Th
Hero checks, BTN bets 142.4 BB,

V fold to 3b - 64%, from BTN - 36%
4b - 14% none from BTN
Stationy as well
WTSD - 24, WSD - 64

I feel like this is a fold. I've seen him calling a triple barrel with a low pp & barreling air thrice multiway flop etc. He's loose but can't see him jamming worse

The most important stat is missing... Agg....

So when you 3-bet and then check/call, this is what you're going to set yourself up for. Your hand is under repped. If he isn't over aggro, then fold river. I like c/cing a large part of your range on the flop, but I like leading the turn because of the turned draws. You can take this line w/ so many hands and bluffs effectively.

As played, fold river.
 
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BB: 118 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 21.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 1,447)
UTG: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.70, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 2,125)
MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 23.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 490)
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 57)
BTN: 99.9 BB (VPIP: 53.06, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
Hero (SB): 179.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4c 4h
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) Jd 4d Jc
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) 7d
Hero bets 7.55 BB, BB calls 7.55 BB

River : (25.9 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 105.05 BB, Hero calls 86.05 BB

Hero mucks 4c 4h (Full House, Fours full of Jacks)
(Pre 51%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)

BB shows Qc Jh (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)

BB wins 221 BB
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BB: 118 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 21.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 1,447)
UTG: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.70, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 2,125)
MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 23.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 490)
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 57)
BTN: 99.9 BB (VPIP: 53.06, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
Hero (SB): 179.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4c 4h
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) Jd 4d Jc
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) 7d
Hero bets 7.55 BB, BB calls 7.55 BB

River : (25.9 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 105.05 BB, Hero calls 86.05 BB

standard? V's an aggro reg but unsure his shoving range here would be that wide vs a triple
 
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The most important stat is missing... Agg....

So when you 3-bet and then check/call, this is what you're going to set yourself up for. Your hand is under repped. If he isn't over aggro, then fold river. I like c/cing a large part of your range on the flop, but I like leading the turn because of the turned draws. You can take this line w/ so many hands and bluffs effectively.

As played, fold river.


agg=aggresion=af? it was 1 as I remember. But I thought af was an indicator vs ratio between raise/cr we check/call or something which doesn't apply here
I folded river. Interesting thought about leading turn. I rarely do this
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 105.65 BB (VPIP: 24.93, PFR: 13.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 345)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.54, PFR: 17.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.15, Hands: 1,503)
UTG: 102.05 BB (VPIP: 45.14, PFR: 27.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.63, Hands: 1,015)
MP: 28.6 BB (VPIP: 53.49, PFR: 30.23, 3Bet Preflop: 22.73, Hands: 44)
CO: 106.15 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 17.15, 3Bet Preflop: 8.76, Hands: 1,836)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Qd
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop : (37.5 BB, 3 players) 7d 9d 5h
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn : (37.5 BB, 3 players) Ts
UTG checks, CO bets 30 BB, fold, fold

Thoughts on this? I liked xb flop on this spot. Don't think we have odds on turn when he bets that big tho
 
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BB: 118 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 21.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 1,447)
UTG: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.70, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 2,125)
MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 23.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 490)
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 57)
BTN: 99.9 BB (VPIP: 53.06, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
Hero (SB): 179.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4c 4h
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) Jd 4d Jc
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) 7d
Hero bets 7.55 BB, BB calls 7.55 BB

River : (25.9 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 105.05 BB, Hero calls 86.05 BB

Hero mucks 4c 4h (Full House, Fours full of Jacks)
(Pre 51%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)

BB shows Qc Jh (Full House, Jacks full of Queens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)

BB wins 221 BB
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BB: 118 BB (VPIP: 27.70, PFR: 21.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.93, Hands: 1,447)
UTG: 112 BB (VPIP: 18.70, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 8.54, Hands: 2,125)
MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 32.56, PFR: 23.95, 3Bet Preflop: 4.29, Hands: 490)
CO: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 16.07, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 57)
BTN: 99.9 BB (VPIP: 53.06, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 99)
Hero (SB): 179.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4c 4h
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop : (6 BB, 2 players) Jd 4d Jc
Hero bets 2.4 BB, BB calls 2.4 BB

Turn : (10.8 BB, 2 players) 7d
Hero bets 7.55 BB, BB calls 7.55 BB

River : (25.9 BB, 2 players) Qs
Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 105.05 BB, Hero calls 86.05 BB

standard? V's an aggro reg but unsure his shoving range here would be that wide vs a triple

I'd check turn looking to CR or call depending on size. As played on river I'd lean towards a fold. I think at these stakes, most players would have already raise KQ, and it's unlikely he's shoving with JT. You'd instead see some kind of raise with JT and lower usually. So you'll be looking at J7/77/QJ way too often. Don't think the fact he's aggro changes much as calling two streets and jamming, unless he's just maniac aggro is still always going to be a really good hand.
 
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agg=aggresion=af? it was 1 as I remember. But I thought af was an indicator vs ratio between raise/cr we check/call or something which doesn't apply here
I folded river. Interesting thought about leading turn. I rarely do this

Any aggression numbers... AGG%, AF or aggression factor. Just anything to give some idea of what kind of play you'll be looking at on the turn/river.
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 105.65 BB (VPIP: 24.93, PFR: 13.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 345)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.54, PFR: 17.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.15, Hands: 1,503)
UTG: 102.05 BB (VPIP: 45.14, PFR: 27.58, 3Bet Preflop: 4.63, Hands: 1,015)
MP: 28.6 BB (VPIP: 53.49, PFR: 30.23, 3Bet Preflop: 22.73, Hands: 44)
CO: 106.15 BB (VPIP: 22.41, PFR: 17.15, 3Bet Preflop: 8.76, Hands: 1,836)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Qd
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB

Flop : (37.5 BB, 3 players) 7d 9d 5h
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn : (37.5 BB, 3 players) Ts
UTG checks, CO bets 30 BB, fold, fold

Thoughts on this? I liked xb flop on this spot. Don't think we have odds on turn when he bets that big tho


3-bet a little larger pre. You want to iso the fish. As played against a fish and someone flatting a fish in the CO, I don't mind bet/call on the flop. Against two regs, checking that flop almost always. As played, yes, you need to fold the turn.
 
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3-bet a little larger pre. You want to iso the fish. As played against a fish and someone flatting a fish in the CO, I don't mind bet/call on the flop. Against two regs, checking that flop almost always. As played, yes, you need to fold the turn.


why do we check the flop vs the regs? Because they could raise flop jam turn leaving us in a bad spot?
BTW CO is a bad reg here as well
 
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why do we check the flop vs the regs? Because they could raise flop jam turn leaving us in a bad spot?
BTW CO is a bad reg here as well

One of them should have a hand to continue with, so it's better to just take the free card w/ 2 overs and the nut flush. It's unlikely if you bet, get called, that you can jam and get better to fold. And yes, we don't want to unnecessarily giai on the flop when we have the power of position. This is why position is such a big advantage in rotational poker. You get to decide, at least for the flop, when the money goes in.
 
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iPoker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
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BB: 368.05 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 21)
UTG: 110.95 BB (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 69)
MP: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 27.23, PFR: 19.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 2,448)
Hero (CO): 106.1 BB
BTN: 61.9 BB (VPIP: 59.02, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 62)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 20.22, PFR: 13.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.89, Hands: 2,527)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Ah
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, SB calls 8.5 BB, BB calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop : (36 BB, 4 players) 8s 5d 6d
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold, BB calls 20 BB, UTG raises to 101.95 BB, fold, BB calls 81.95 BB

BB is a terrible station. He'll call anything. UTG is very nitty. I've seen him on 100NL tables as well tho. One thing I know is that he's very tight. Though spot there.
I know I'm way ahead of BBs range. really unsure about UTG there. Also got to consider to money we'd win vs the money we'd lose
 
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CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.48, PFR: 10.16, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 248)
Hero (BTN): 178.9 BB
SB: 32.1 BB (VPIP: 64.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BB: 237.15 BB (VPIP: 31.08, PFR: 22.26, 3Bet Preflop: 9.89, Hands: 1,899)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jd Ad
CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BB calls 8 BB, fold

Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) 7c 5d 2d
BB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, BB raises to 24 BB, Hero raises to 50 BB, BB calls 26 BB

Turn : (121 BB, 2 players) 7d
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (121 BB, 2 players) 5c
BB checks, Hero bets 119.9 BB, BB calls 119.9 BB

Hero mucks Jd Ad (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)

BB shows 2s 2h (Full House, Twos full of Sevens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)

BB wins 350.8 BB

BB is a very annoying reg. He has been winning a couple of stacks over me last few days. Was trying to trap him on turn with his overpairs. Hardly think any sets are in his range there.
River is terrible I think cause we have good showdown & no need to jam. But I figured he'd call his overpairs there.
 
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BB: 368.05 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 21)
UTG: 110.95 BB (VPIP: 8.82, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 69)
MP: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 27.23, PFR: 19.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 2,448)
Hero (CO): 106.1 BB
BTN: 61.9 BB (VPIP: 59.02, PFR: 14.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 62)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 20.22, PFR: 13.18, 3Bet Preflop: 3.89, Hands: 2,527)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Ah
UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, SB calls 8.5 BB, BB calls 8 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop : (36 BB, 4 players) 8s 5d 6d
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold, BB calls 20 BB, UTG raises to 101.95 BB, fold, BB calls 81.95 BB

BB is a terrible station. He'll call anything. UTG is very nitty. I've seen him on 100NL tables as well tho. One thing I know is that he's very tight. Though spot there.
I know I'm way ahead of BBs range. really unsure about UTG there. Also got to consider to money we'd win vs the money we'd lose


Yeah, doesn't sound like you're worried about BB. So what's UTG range? You want me to do your work for you? :)
 
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iPoker - £0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
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CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.48, PFR: 10.16, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 248)
Hero (BTN): 178.9 BB
SB: 32.1 BB (VPIP: 64.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
BB: 237.15 BB (VPIP: 31.08, PFR: 22.26, 3Bet Preflop: 9.89, Hands: 1,899)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jd Ad
CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BB calls 8 BB, fold

Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) 7c 5d 2d
BB checks, Hero bets 12 BB, BB raises to 24 BB, Hero raises to 50 BB, BB calls 26 BB

Turn : (121 BB, 2 players) 7d
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (121 BB, 2 players) 5c
BB checks, Hero bets 119.9 BB, BB calls 119.9 BB

Hero mucks Jd Ad (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 51%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)

BB shows 2s 2h (Full House, Twos full of Sevens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)

BB wins 350.8 BB

BB is a very annoying reg. He has been winning a couple of stacks over me last few days. Was trying to trap him on turn with his overpairs. Hardly think any sets are in his range there.
River is terrible I think cause we have good showdown & no need to jam. But I figured he'd call his overpairs there.

With a low flop like that, just call the min check raise in position on the flop. There's really no need to 3-bet the flop with your stack size and position. All you're getting is air to fold at that point and bloating the pot.

As played, you can't check that turn, and with a double low runout like that, you won't be able bluff often enough successfully. There's just not anything that fits your range and action, and the board is too low. I mean, what are you repping at that point?
 
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Pacific, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
SB: $58.99 (118 bb)
BB: $54.81(109.6 bb 16/14/8%3bet/40%agg 580 hands.)
UTG+2: $50.40 (100.8 bb)
MP1: $55.94 (111.9 bb)
MP2: $65.36 (130.7 bb)
MP3: $50 (100 bb)
CO: $56.89 (113.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with K♠ A♣
5 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB folds, BB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $12.62, BB calls $7.12
Flop: ($25.49) 4♠ K♣ A♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero?


Checking, betting small or shoving all seem viable options but which is best in the long run?
Villain was a good tag reg. 11% 3bet in the BB.
Never seen him flat a 4bet so range unknown.
Never seen a 5bet.
 
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Yeah, doesn't sound like you're worried about BB. So what's UTG range? You want me to do your work for you? :)


all the sets is what I really ranged him on at the time. That's why I folded.
He had 7s for an open ender which I didn't expect him to shove there.

I ran the numbers & I think it's a bad fold.
We need to call around 80BB to win likely 330ish BB> when the BB tags in.
So like 24%

I add all the sets & 1 combo we beat & it becomes an easy call. This is disregarding BB range ofc. Even if we add the BB it's still very profitable.


http://www.pokerstrategy.com
Board: 6h8s5c
equity Win Tie
MP2 57.70% 56.08% 1.62% { KK, 88, 66-55 }
CO 42.30% 40.69% 1.62% { AA }

I think my calculations are right.
 
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By the way... giving away our poker course on pokerzion.com now. It's only $7 to signup to get the full course. It's an intro price w/ no strings. Just trying to make more people aware of some of our other poker software out there. It's a good deal, especially as a foundational course. You'll get your $7 back w/o a doubt. lol

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is this only paid through paypal? right now I'm unable to pay through paypal. If ACR transfer is possible or some other method I can do that.
 
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BTW if someone has a hand like K4o in his SB stealing range, how wide should you be defending from BB?
I'm trying to widen my BB defending range by adding more suited combos but I really don't have a baseline or a defined range. Also the opening size matters too
 
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is this only paid through paypal? right now I'm unable to pay through paypal. If ACR transfer is possible or some other method I can do that.

Right now that is just paypal, and you can use any major credit card on paypal. Is ACR ok w/ site transfers? A lot of these sites are not cool with that anymore.
 
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BTW if someone has a hand like K4o in his SB stealing range, how wide should you be defending from BB?
I'm trying to widen my BB defending range by adding more suited combos but I really don't have a baseline or a defined range. Also the opening size matters too

I don't know the exact range off hand, but in most cases, for BB defense, if it's 3 bb open or less, I generally defend w/ just about my entire range. I cut out total trash, but I don't fold much HU in position. There are some exceptions against some of the very best players, or someone is really a tight open in the SB, I'll knock off a higher % of my low range. But in my experience, people over open in the SB. Probably because people over fold in the BB in that spot.
 
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Poker - €0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.40, PFR: 17.81, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 75)
Hero (BTN): 117.6 BB
SB: 128.9 BB (VPIP: 22.88, PFR: 16.99, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 159)
BB: 153.3 BB (VPIP: 26.03, PFR: 21.35, 3Bet Preflop: 11.59, Hands: 467)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
MP: 205.1 BB (VPIP: 36.78, PFR: 21.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 90)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Jd Ah
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (5.5 BB, 2 players) Qs 4s 4h
BB checks, Hero bets 2.2 BB, BB calls 2.2 BB

Turn : (9.9 BB, 2 players) Js
BB checks, Hero checks

River : (9.9 BB, 2 players) 5c
BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

the river bet is yearning for a call. Very much looks like Kx. Did I waste 4BB here? He doesn't do thin river bets that often
 
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Any suggestions to major change, or should I just man it up and grind up?

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