Ask Gripsed Anything About Cash Games

[uri73796]

Losing is always not easy and therefore you should have such a bar for yourself well, let's say stop lost.When you play for example you lost two Bains in a row and it is worth thinking about it to relax gather your thoughts find the reason for losing.And do not rush to recoup this is the biggest mistake-and merge bankrolls.

 

[Haze777s]

Are you familiar with crushing the micro stakes by Blackrain? I ask because I’m wondering how that book compares to your material program for this. His information I’d assume is fairly outdated and yours is much more recent I’d be interested to here your view on this.

It's better not to mess with this , play at higher limits

 

[Igor Popadyk]

what free program do you recommend for working on a game (analysis of distributions) or maybe not very expensive?

 

[dopustim]

thanks. I read a lot of interesting.

 

[Aballinamion]

How much can we rely on stats?

Hi there master Jarvis, how you doing? I have a doubt here and I count with your kindness to help us.
I would like to know how much can we trust in stats such as WTSD, W$SD and WWSF at micro and mid limits for 6-Max Cash Tables. I confess that I don't even use it. However, I see many friends here risking their necks with these kind of information.
Which volume of hands played could be really reliable for us to use these stats, for bluffing for example, in a deep stacked pot in the turn? Are we getting stacked a lot times having only the statistics on our side?


"WTSD (Went to Showdown) tells you how often villain goes to showdown. If this is very low it tells you that he often folds before showdown and goes to showdown with good hands.

W$SD (Won $ at Showdown) tells you how often villain wins at showdown. If it is for example low it means he often sees showdown with not so good hands.

WWSF (Won When Saw Flop) Tells you how often villain won the hand after seeing flop."

acess: 2/9/2020 12h18m ET https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=345753

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Hello everybody.
My question is:
Whether you're winning or losing, how to identify when to stop?
Sometimes I'm losing a lot, and in their eagerness to recover end up losing more.

Other times, I'm making a lot, I get excited and end up losing almost everything I got.​

The main thing to ask yourself is how profitable / lucractive the game you're playing in is.
A great way to find that out is to ask yourself the following 3 questions

1) Is the game good? (players playing poorly, stuck, tired, tilted, etc.)
2) Am I feeling good? (state of mind, energy, confidence level etc.)
3) Am I playing good?

Bonus Question) Is my seat good? (position matters, as does stack depth)

If the answer to all 3 is yes, then you're probably good to keep playing, if the answer to any of them is no consider leaving.

How much you are up or down in the game doesn't actually matter that much unless it affects how well you're playing. Some people don't play well deepstacked so it's good to quite for them anytime they have say more than 250bb in front of them.

Likewise some people play really poorly 'chasing losses' as you say when they are behind, these people should have a 'stop loss' where they quit the game if they lose say more than 3 buyins in a session.

But truthfully the best players don't think about win/losses per session, they just try to play each hand to the best of their ability and the 3 questions above ensure that every hand played will have the highly $ return per hand and per hour.

Hope that helps!

 

[Evan Jarvis]

It's better not to mess with this , play at higher limits

People in general should play whatever limits have them feeling both engaged with the game and excited to play.

If they are feeling anxious, that means they are playing too high.
If they are feeling bored, that means they are playing too low.

For people with a smaller bankroll or learning the game there's no need to jump to higher stakes, when learning the game you want to keep the financial pressure/stress to a minimum while you get a good feel for solid strategy.

Once comfort and confidence are more prevalent, then it's time to consider moving up, slowly :dancing2:

 

[Evan Jarvis]

what free program do you recommend for working on a game (analysis of distributions) or maybe not very expensive?

Equilab is the best free tool for learning equity I know

Flopzilla and Power Equilab are the next step up and still very inexpensive

and of course PokerTracker is essential if you want to play with data and track long term.
They have a 30 day free trial which allows you time to win back the cost of it and more.

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Hi there master Jarvis, how you doing? I have a doubt here and I count with your kindness to help us.
I would like to know how much can we trust in stats such as WTSD, W$SD and WWSF at micro and mid limits for 6-Max Cash Tables. I confess that I don't even use it. However, I see many friends here risking their necks with these kind of information.
Which volume of hands played could be really reliable for us to use these stats, for bluffing for example, in a deep stacked pot in the turn? Are we getting stacked a lot times having only the statistics on our side?


"WTSD (Went to Showdown) tells you how often villain goes to showdown. If this is very low it tells you that he often folds before showdown and goes to showdown with good hands.

W$SD (Won $ at Showdown) tells you how often villain wins at showdown. If it is for example low it means he often sees showdown with not so good hands.

WWSF (Won When Saw Flop) Tells you how often villain won the hand after seeing flop."

acess: 2/9/2020 12h18m ET https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=345753

I only use these stats when I have at least 10k hands on an opponent, and so at microstakes where the player pool is massive that's rarely going to be the case.

These are nice stats to have when you play with the same small group of players over and over, but in general the more 'niche' or super specific stats won't be useful in many spots.

WWSF is useful for knowing how hard someone fights over pots, high # indicates that you can bluffcatch a bit more, call down a little wider.

Same with WTSD, if it's low you can bluff a wider range (but don't go crazy) and if it's low then focus on widening your value range (but again, not going crazy)

W$SD I just look for extremes, if someone has a 40-45% in this stat I value bet MUCH wider than I do in other spots, I also bluff way less. If it's higher like 55-60% then I like to bluff more because the player only likes to call down with their best hands, when they are sure they'll win showdown, which means they will tend to fold a lot of good (but not great) hands.

Use these stats in close spots, not as your main go to, the basic stats are all you need like 90% of the time.

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Just giving this a little BUMP

I've been putting in a lot more volume lately on the rush/zoom/blitz tables and loving every minute of it. Winning at a steady clip at well, and streaming a good chunk of it.

If you have any questions about cash games, please feel free to post here or in the cash game hands feedback section of the forum, I'll be increasing my activity there over the next few months

Let's Get Stackin!

 

[shane4050]

Hey Man Just Wanted a quick rundown on this hand i played out the otherday, imo from the get go i played this hand wrong from the sb due to my bet sizing and not re stacking my chips before the hand for a full 100bb but in your opinion was this just one of those moments i should of folded or something of a cooler. https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/324x7tWdK

 

[shane4050]

Went to edit but past the time, My General question was as it was a little mis guided. When you find yourself in spots like this where you know your probably beat do you have a percentage of the time you gamble or is it more based on player tendencies and what you have seen them do previously. As this person was high vpip i took my gamble but find that more often then not im behind in the spots i pick and choose to gamble.

 

[Danjwarburton]

Hey Man Just Wanted a quick rundown on this hand i played out the otherday, imo from the get go i played this hand wrong from the sb due to my bet sizing and not re stacking my chips before the hand for a full 100bb but in your opinion was this just one of those moments i should of folded or something of a cooler. https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/324x7tWdK

NEVER flat call from the SB, you are OOP and it is awful being multiway OOP! Period.

KJ blocks a few combos of AK, AJ, KK, KQ, JJ, (most of a 4bet range and even calling ranges in a 3bet pot) so can make an excellent squeeze or 3bet pre causing many players to fold.

3bet pre is the best choice.

By the river, you have a full house that beats 6x and flush draws. Just flat call and enjoy the split pot most of the time, the occassional win vs 6x and flushdraws and dislike the very rare time he has quads or KQ.

Just be grateful you didn't respond by jamming all in!

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Went to edit but past the time, My General question was as it was a little mis guided. When you find yourself in spots like this where you know your probably beat do you have a percentage of the time you gamble or is it more based on player tendencies and what you have seen them do previously. As this person was high vpip i took my gamble but find that more often then not im behind in the spots i pick and choose to gamble.

I go with player tendencies when making these decisions

Based on their line they could easily have KQ or 66 or the same hand, so you are calling at best to win half the pot... what bluffs could they have?

In general this is better played as a fold preflop because offsuit hands tend not to play well in multiway pots especially out of position. You are dealing with an EP raiser even if it is a min raise and it's a multiway pot, you would prefer to be suited to play the hand.

As played turn and river are fine although I probably fold to the raise, I just can't see you ever running into a worse hand, so the best case is a chop pot :/

thanks for sharing your hand, always fun to review these!

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Bump

 

[ph_il]

Edit: I just realized this is about cash games. Nevermind about the questions. I just want to thank you for your series on youtube as it helped improve my MTT game immensely.

 

[kacca]

Hi

How much is the easiest way to start development in cash games so that you can raise limits. Since I know at each limits there are game levels.

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Edit: I just realized this is about cash games. Nevermind about the questions. I just want to thank you for your series on youtube as it helped improve my MTT game immensely.

Thank you very much sir! Happy I could be of service to you!!!

 

[Evan Jarvis]

How much is the easiest way to start development in cash games so that you can raise limits. Since I know at each limits there are game levels.

Watch this playlist https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrNnyWekagO_N2USvvxB2ykzb_kQn0hy

If you are able to understand the lessons in there you will be good to go

Feel free to watch the videos more than once until everything makes sense

 

[IronVictoryStar]

Learning Cash Games

Im personaly a MTT player and Im starting been interested on cash game every time.
I will start learning about them so Ill watch you playlist.
I have like intermidiate knowledge of game and know all the basics.

From that point what would you consider it the most important thing on cash games?

On my understanding its about having great constance on your game and your results and as far far as I know you need much more time and concepts to learn and studt on cash game than you would on MTTs.

Greets
Iron

 

[moura21071981]

A trap

All poker players know (or should know) that one of the factors that must guide the payment of a bet is the odds that are at the time of the play. Odds are calculated based on the outs the player has to form a winning hand. However, are you calculating your outs correctly? Are you sure that all the outs you calculated are really yours, friends of the cards, I have, fallen a lot in these traps, I would like to know from you what you think of that.

 

[kacca]

Bland

There is a problem with the stack. The games are good. Well, I don’t know what to do. In 90%, after 30-60 minutes of the game, a bad card starts to go and I stand for 1-2 hours with the same stack and I just eat hoods. In the end, I will lose. What do you advise?

 

[stil370]

Generally with hands as weak as ATo this is going to be a fold. You have enough stronger hands you can 4-bet all in with to ensure your opponent isn't getting the best of you.

That being said, if you have 3-bet stats on them and see they are 3-betting in those positions 15-20% of the time, ATo becomes right on the line but still not that strong. In fact a better hand to 4-bet jam with would be KQs because most of their 3-bet bluffs will be with Ax and so you don't want the ace blocker in your hand.

Now I digress, the easier adjustment to the situation is to tighten up your opening range even more so than you can 4-bet all in a higher % of the time when you open. It may seem kind of crazy but opening 88+, AQ+ will allow you to do this, and if they aren't adjusting their 3-bet ranges you'll be getting the most of them a ton of the time.

You can also consider raising to just 2x or 2.5x since you're playing with shorter stacks and can easily get all in on the river with these open sizes. It will also cost you less when you have to fold to the 3-bet and give you better odds when you want to call it with your suited broadways and good but not great pairs.

Hope that helps, and know that they are risking quite a bit in that spot so it's ok to be folding 67% of the time out of position (and ideally more like 50% of the time in position)

Thanks for your positivity as well, brought a big smile to my face

Hi Evan, alot of times i go back a couple of months later to read the replies of people like yourself for a 2nd time and the practice of doing this makes the answer much clearer,thank you.

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Edit: I just realized this is about cash games. Nevermind about the questions. I just want to thank you for your series on youtube as it helped improve my MTT game immensely.

thank you so much brother! I saw your post in the challenge thread too and I just want to say I really really appreciate the kind words

Keep up the good vibes and the good results will continue to come to you in life (both on and off the tables)

 

[Evan Jarvis]

Im personaly a MTT player and Im starting been interested on cash game every time.
I will start learning about them so Ill watch you playlist.
I have like intermidiate knowledge of game and know all the basics.

From that point what would you consider it the most important thing on cash games?

On my understanding its about having great constance on your game and your results and as far far as I know you need much more time and concepts to learn and studt on cash game than you would on MTTs.

Greets
Iron

The most important thing to learn in cash games is really how to read ranges and how to adjust to the different opponent types.

Once you have a feel for those two things there's really nothing that can stop you.

I've learned the most from Jonathan Little at Pokercoaching.com He does a great job of walking you thru the process in his videos and also has this book which is just downright the nuts in terms of cash game mastery https://www.amazon.ca/Mastering-Small-Stakes-No-Limit-Holdem/dp/1909457779

Good luck on the tables my friend!